Re: [opensource-dev] about viewer 2.1 and blog article

> On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 01:18 +0200, Tayra Dagostino wrote: >> I read on >> http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2010/05/05/on-the-road-to-viewer-21 >> crtl+alt+F1 will be fixed "Fixing the bug where CTL-ALT-F1 does not >> hide all the Viewer UI as i

[opensource-dev] about viewer 2.1 and blog article

I read on http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2010/05/05/on-the-road-to-viewer-21 crtl+alt+F1 will be fixed "Fixing the bug where CTL-ALT-F1 does not hide all the Viewer UI as it should. This fix should solve a lot of problems for our machinimists and photographers." ok...but

Re: [opensource-dev] Where has "Spare time" gone in 2.0 ?

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:09:55 -0400 Gigs wrote: > Tayra Dagostino wrote: > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Region#Region > > > > 2 full per core since some months > > > > some month ago when avarage lag spreaded against script time and > > other param

Re: [opensource-dev] Where has "Spare time" gone in 2.0 ?

On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:25:27 -0500 Argent Stonecutter wrote: > > On 2010-04-25, at 08:27, Carlo Wood wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 07:19:41AM -0500, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > >> On 2010-04-25, at 06:34, Carlo Wood wrote: > >>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 08:38:16AM +0200, Marine Kelley wro

Re: [opensource-dev] flickering mousepointer in snowglobe 1.3.x

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:56:39 +0200 Lance Corrimal wrote: > I just verified with the snowglobe 1.4.x testbuild from the wiki, > this flickering happens on all three platforms, NOT with 1.23.5 or > 2.0 clients, BUT with snowglobe 1.4... > going to work on that for a bit. the road to SG2/SL2 is in

Re: [opensource-dev] (no subject)

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:06:09 -0300 Malachi wrote: > but then why is it only effecting snowglobe and not LL sources? maybe why LL are younger than 3mth, SG libs are older... ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondli

Re: [opensource-dev] flickering mousepointer in snowglobe 1.3.x

Cannot reproduce on SG2, give more detail about prim properties and conditions to try to repro -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 23/apr/2010, alle ore 11.25, Lance Corrimal ha scritto: > Hi, > > I'm observing this misbehaviour in SG 1.3.x: > > put the mouse over a prim that changes the mousepoint

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:51:04 -0400 Gigs wrote: > I don't think Brett fully considered the implications of: > > "You acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop using or > distributing a Third-Party Viewer for accessing Second Life if we > determine that there is a violation." > > Wh

[opensource-dev] test on SG2

i looked for somethings in debug settings (from advanced menu) without success is there a way to: 1) enable/disable hovertext on whole screen 2) enable/disable SLPlugin (totally, if audio and multimedia turned off one SLPlugin session lunched anyway) any hint? __

Re: [opensource-dev] SG2 build 3326

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:40:34 +0200 Tayra Dagostino wrote: > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x09220aea in LLImageGL::setCategory(int) () > > uhm... same of build 3318, some hint to diagnose deeper this? > > SG don't start, asap first login

[opensource-dev] SG2 build 3326

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x09220aea in LLImageGL::setCategory(int) () uhm... same of build 3318, some hint to diagnose deeper this? SG don't start, asap first login screen appear it crash... ___ Policies and (un)subscribe inf

Re: [opensource-dev] Requesting Linden Response: Please move TPVP Topics to a different mailing list

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:11:22 +0200 Carlo Wood wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:28:00AM -0400, Robert Martin wrote: > > LL is only liable for Linden Core Code* > > a TPV is only liable for code changed from LLC** > > a user is liable for actions on the grid (and whatever changes done > > to eit

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 trunk binaries available

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:49:03 -0700 "Philippe (Merov) Bossut" wrote: > Linux: > http://secondlife.com/developers/opensource/downloads/2010/trunk/3318/Snowglobe-i686-2.0.0.3318.tar.bz2 don't start... 2010-04-14T17:02:57Z INFO: LLError::NoClassInfo::createContext: Stencil Bits 8 2010-04-14T17:02:5

Re: [opensource-dev] question on settings for the 2.0 built-in browser

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:52:21 -0400 Robert Martin wrote: > 1 the BiB is htmlkit/safari correct? webkit > 2 how could a person install plugins to the BiB? not so sure... but try to create a php file ad hoc and see it inside viewer browser, so u can see where is default plugin directory (never tri

Re: [opensource-dev] PulseAudio requirement in windows question; Technical issue squeezed between legal noise.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Nicky Perian wrote: > Same issue as Latif. > > On windows it fails with: > > CMake Error at media_plugins/webkit/CMakeLists.txt:17 (include): > include could not find load file: > > PulseAudio > > > Is PulseAudio r

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:41:00 -0400 Robert Martin wrote: > The Third Party Viewer Policy creates a Huge list of things that you > can't do with the code (and connect to SL) especially if you include > the TOS (i think the TPVp and the TOS crosslink to each other in their > text). you cannot do i

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

ensively, as opposed to the blissful mirage of your wishful thinking. Morgaine. = On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Tayra Dagostino > wrote: TPV is a license to login LL grid with a 3rd party viewer, not about code itself -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 30

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

Agree, TPV mean warranty for users, a copybot feature is a malicious volontary written code, not a bug Bugs are license free :) -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 30/mar/2010, alle ore 17.31, malachi ha scritto: > just my 2 cents. > > > * Second Life Viewer Source Code > * The source code i

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

TPV is a license to login LL grid with a 3rd party viewer, not about code itself -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 30/mar/2010, alle ore 17.31, malachi ha scritto: > just my 2 cents. > > > * Second Life Viewer Source Code > * The source code in this file ("Source Code") is provided by > L

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

Developers reply to LL if their code is malicious, not if a user mod the viewer code and violate tos/cs 11/12 mean developer don't write intentionally bad code... -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 30/mar/2010, alle ore 15.13, Marine Kelley > ha scritto: Naturally but do they apply to the dev

Re: [opensource-dev] SL2 font problem on linux

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:58:30 +0100 Tofu Linden wrote: > On your system it's trying to load 103 system fonts for full unicode > coverage (on my system it's 43 fonts, which also seems huge so I > never dreamed of testing with 100+). > Not a huge problem in itself, but the current font system is hug

Re: [opensource-dev] [Linux] Frequent crashes with last Viewer 2 beta release

Il giorno 28/mar/2010, alle ore 22.10, Lance Corrimal ha scritto: > I'm having a similar experience here. > > Am Sonntag 28 März 2010 schrieb Jonathan Irvin: >> Approx. how long into your session does it crash? > > a few seconds. Same for me > >> What where you going that made it crash, etc.?

Re: [opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

Dickson > > >> wrote: >>> On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:58 +, Tayra Dagostino wrote: >>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:00 +0100 >>>> Lance Corrimal wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyways, shouldn't SLPlugin exit when it is done doing what

Re: [opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:11:03 -0500 Michael Dickson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:58 +0000, Tayra Dagostino wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:00 +0100 > > Lance Corrimal wrote: > > > > > Anyways, shouldn't SLPlugin exit when it is done doing what

[opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:00 +0100 Lance Corrimal wrote: > Anyways, shouldn't SLPlugin exit when it is done doing what it > thought it should be doing? installed and configured Pulseaudio now only ONE SLPlugin thread executed, with very low processor usage. ___

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

Policy and license (or else) change aren't retroactive, never -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 22/mar/2010, alle ore 16.51, Carlo Wood ha scritto: > Um yes... I cannot agree with this TPV (I explicitely don't). > What we need is it to be either changed, or have a real > lawyer look at it and

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:29:57 +0800 "Boy Lane" wrote: > Tayra, in all respect, but you need to read the policy before posting > a comment about it. > > There are at least 2 major violations against GPL in TPV, independent > if I want to develop or use any 3rd party viewer to connect to > SecondLi

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:05:29 +0800 "Boy Lane" wrote: > Again, I completely agree with you. I can develop any viewer based on > the Linden sources and be GPL compliant. > > But, what I can not do it is to be compliant to GPL and TPV the same > time. As such the otherwise legitimate GPL > viewer w

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:40:54 +0800 "Boy Lane" wrote: > Thanks Tayra. You said it in other words but that is exactly what I > wrote. I can not make a 3rd party viewer that is not violating either > TPV or GPL and the same time can *legally* connect to the SecondLife > grid.. > > That leaves 2 opt

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:01:02 +0800 "Boy Lane" wrote: > But worse than this, the updated TPV policy does not allow *anyone* > to comply with that policy.The policy is legally and technically > flawed. It's impossible to comply and not violate either LL's policy > itself or licensing terms (GPL). A

Re: [opensource-dev] left and right arrows change to strafing in mouselook

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:11:47 -0700 Stickman wrote: > Why not just skip a half-way solution and implement full key mapping? this solve a lot of trouble too for linux user (crtl+alt+F1) and non eng keyboard user (take snapshot shortcut), may be a nice proposal :) __

Re: [opensource-dev] SL2 font problem on linux

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:18:55 -0400 Glen Canaday wrote: you linux too? and it work? > mmm... not a clue then. > > On 03/17/2010 12:49 PM, Tayra Dagostino wrote: > > Debian lenny > > Only official repo > > > >> Which distro? > >> >

Re: [opensource-dev] Question related with rotation of object

I think in radiant, pi/2=90 degree (as radar) > > Hi second live programmerriors (programmers+warriors), > > I have a question related with rotation of object. Where exactly > rotation parameters are saved in. > > For clarifying my question lets bring some example. I have some cube > object

[opensource-dev] SL2 font problem on linux

Every time i try to login SL2 crash due some font trouble, all font listed are present and readable by all users in the system... somebody else seen this? (if yes i'll opena JIRA, otherwise i look for a local trouble of my linuxbox...) ~/sl_rc/SecondLife-i686-2.0.0.202711$ ./secondlife Running fr

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:23:33 -0600 Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2010-03-09, at 14:12, Tayra Dagostino wrote: > > I think yoiu've misreaded the TPV policy, no GPL violation, viewer > > code is GPL, you can take a copy from svn, manipulate it, patch or > > mood, rename

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:47:35 + Morgaine wrote: > I believe that they're seeking better-informed legal counsel on GPL > compliance first, before redrafting the TPV. The first version > conflated users, viewers and developers so terribly that GPLv2 clause > 6 was left in tatters. Joe's phrasi

Re: [opensource-dev] SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:46:32 +0100 Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Montag, 8. März 2010 13:15:59 schrieb Opensource Obscure: > > > sounds like killall -9 SLPlugin if u killall all plugins stop to work, keep first child active, it fork other child sometime for some strange reason one of plugin be

Re: [opensource-dev] Script Memory Limits UI

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:49:35 + Morgaine wrote: > You have to be joking. (Or rather, Kelly has to be joking.) > > It's been decades since computer users last had to specify the memory > requirements of their programs in advance of running them. > > Has 1970 returned again? This is progress?

[opensource-dev] patch porting to SL2

is there a way to port the login database patch to SL2? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] latest SG1.3.2

On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 00:37:51 +0200 Thickbrick Sleaford wrote: > On Sunday 28 February 2010 01:23:21 Tayra Dagostino wrote: > > receiveMessage:943: GStreamer010 media instance failed to set up > ... > > (:24128): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_set_state: > > assertion

[opensource-dev] latest SG1.3.2

2010-02-27T23:19:47Z INFO: LLViewerMedia::getCurrentUserAgent: SecondLife/1.3.2.3219 (Snowglobe Release; default skin) pid:24128: (media plugin) grab_gst_syms:91: Found DSO: libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 pid:24128: (media plugin) grab_gst_syms:105: Found DSO: libgstvideo-0.10.so.0 2010-02-27T23:19:47Z INF

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:30:52 + Morgaine wrote: > Please add to your list of issues to pass to Legal, a highlighted > copy of Clause 6 in the GPLv2 > license, > as well as a highlighted copy of the section of the GPLv2 > FAQ

Re: [opensource-dev] step by step guide to compiling snowglobe

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:36:13 +0100 Carlo Wood wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 02:30:07PM -0500, kow wrote: > > Snowglobe should work out of the box with VS2005. Emerald and > > Imprudence are easier options if you're using VS2008. I believe the > > only issue with VS2008 + snowglobe is boost, an

[opensource-dev] freeze and locks

Snowglobe 1.3.1 (3125) Feb 5 2010 09:41:34 (Snowglobe Release) putting master volume to 0 viewer hang and freeze, fps fall from 80fps to 4fps no valuable warnings or error in debug console... any repro? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information av

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 1.3 RC1

On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:22:47 + Robin Cornelius wrote: > I'm very keen to know if anyone else is seeing grey textures that are > talking longer/never loading WRT previous snowglobe versions or if > anyone is seeing any unusal entries in the log/console due to > textures. My part of SNOW-196 in

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 1.3 RC1

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:54:16 -0800 "Philippe (Merov) Bossut" wrote: > Hi, > > With the landing of a patch for SNOW-196 (mutex locking) that was > causing freezes, hangs and crashes, we created new binaries for 1.3, > aptly named RC > 1. > > We're still unsure about that fix though so please, dow