ife 2.7.6 (234497) Jul 1 2011 01:33:10
while they were broken on
Second Life 2.7.6 (234127) Jun 28 2011 18:35:42
bye
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See https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19700
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-18496
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19967
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:38, Carlo Wood wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:49:30 -0500
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>> For the icon, label it "DD" for draw distance. That will fit in
>> 16x16 pixels, and not conflict with other symbols.
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> I like this idea. Made
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Since Basic mode is now available, I'm much less convinced than
in the past by claims about having too many options on the screen
in Advanced Mode.
By definition, new residents switch to a more complicated user
interface when they leave Basic mode - more complicated,
and more useful/powe
suggested
in this discussion.
Kudos!
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of dozens of opinions about various SL
topics from other merchants too.
I'm going to post them to this mailing list in the next hours,
along with my interpretations, random thoughts, assumptions
and predictions about the future of the whole platform basing
on those opinions.
Is this awesome
(Y/
this feature, or don't plan to use it if implemented...
...please, just refrain from commenting.
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Tested on Linux build: these are all fixed and working as expected.
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ReleaseWithDbg or Debug build.
I'm going to file this issue later - just gathering details now.
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- private IM icons in bottom bar
- group and IM icons in conversations panel
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25595
Adding voice/no-voice status in Edit window or
removing arrows from scrollbars couldn't be useful
in any way - so I'm sure this was an error, not a feature.
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:09 AM, CG Linden wrote:
>> Ideas/suggestions/bug reports welcome.
It seems to be hard to read for some people / in some settings.
Please - a bit more contrast between text and background.
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> What are currently the best in-world groups where to
> discuss viewer issues, announce new JIRA entries or updates,
> raise awareness about current bugs and such?
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> I'd welcome both official and unofficial groups.
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after a first complete
reinstallation, but then its behaviour across multiple sessions
(which included creation and editing of Favorites) was inconsistent.
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 20:46, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
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> STORM-1145 Changes to Favorites are not reflected on the login locations
> menu
As I commented in JIRA, I still see the problem.
Does this fix cover old-style usernames as well?
(I log in as "Opensource Obscure&quo
ng now is '
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> Build Results Pending...
me too; I note that the other links work
http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/snowstorm_viewer-development/arch/Linux/quicklink.html
http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/snowstorm_viewer-development
uld be the correct solution. That would move
this functionality from a non-related place in the interface
(the chat history) where it's only partially implemented,
to its dedicated place where it works completely.
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ich relate to viewer issues, but none of
them seems to be active / receptive. I'd want to be sure
I'm not missing the right groups.
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I see a couple of issues where the issue status may
have improperly been set to "Releases / Fixed":
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3795
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SH-1295
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 18:46, Opensource Obscure
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> Which is the expected behaviour for intra-sim teleports
> and Local Chat History? should these teleports show up,
> like when you teleport to a different region?
>
> They currently don't, but they're correctly r
and sea can be seen (even
in no-water regions). Again, I think this only happened with
shadows enabled. A workaround seems to be disabling and
re-enabling shadows.
None of these issues seems to be "new".
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rmation be pruned
out of it - this may confuse me. I will help with updating it myself
as soon as I get comfortable with the new process.
It would help me if someone expanded the "Important" yellow box at
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Compiling_the_viewer_(Linux)#Build_the_viewer_wi
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> I hope you don't mind me taking this to the list, as it might be of general
> interest.
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> On 03/29/2011 09:42 AM, Opensource Obscure wrote:
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> Hello Boroondas,
> I see you removed 3 labels fr
thus didn't notice this.
Good point. I suggest they make sure they are NOT using such
a caching system, if it can hide issues as big as this one.
QA department apart, I / we should have done more testing.
I think I remember I had seen this, but I didn't bother to properly
investigate it /
is is by design.
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https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25321
"Make user aware of the CTRL + Up/Down Arrow feature
(which scrolls back message history)"
Please feel free to edit Summary and Description if I didn't
word them in a clear way.
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and by disappearing profiles
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, it's disabled by default - turn it on by right-clicking the mini-map.
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d in the Minimap and the blue circle overlaps them. They look
dark grey and there's not enough contrast to be clearly seen. See
https://jira.secondlife.com/secure/attachment/49179/Second+Life+2.6.2-225012.jpg
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ds folder.
> * STORM-1095 : Chat preferences > font size should increase size of input
> text in the chat box
This works, but the change is only applied after giving focus back to
the input text box (while the change to chat history is applied immediately).
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e.
So this new feature, as proposed here, would be consistent with
the existing ones, with no complexity added.
I don’t use Facebook but I suppose this model could be extended to
different services. I propose to keep this discussion limited to Twitter
and then adapt/apply the results elsewhere.
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of users, because it mimics the "Show Desktop" feature offered
by both Windows and Linux environments.
Should this be filed as a separate request?
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ct of mailing list discussions or wiki pages would be enough.
If you didn't do it yet, try Basic Mode by choosing it at Login
screen. Be sure to use "Latest Development Viewer"
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> the Debug menu on the login screen
OK.
Linux/Gnome users may have to replace this system shortcut that by default
shows/hides desktop (this isn't new).
> * STORM-1036 : Remove the unused "How to create a new Classified ad"
> notification
uts for STORM-2?
Would user contributions about this be possible / appropriate?
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This happened to me multiple times yesterday while I was on a TPV
(Kirstens last release). Please tell the list if you find or file an appropriate
JIRA issue about this so that I can add my feedback.
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:38, Kadah Coba wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIG
investigate it...my fault.
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#x27;t get this sort of slowdowns.
I still have to get more details about this. In the meantime,
it would help me a lot if I could get some pointers to known
existing PJIRA issues that may relate to this.
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> While working on this bug I've almost (~80%) implemented STORM-326
> (Persistent water/sky settings), so if anyone is interested I'd be happy to
> complete that work.
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Sounds great, could you please attach a snapshot?
Also, in a comment to STORM-643 someone is asking if this would be
meant to be an addition - or if the minimap is supposed to *move* to
the sidebar (ie not an independent floater anymore).
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:05, Twisted
a separate issue that should be filed separately.
It may also affect different languages.
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For the record there's an update, as the previously mentioned
Android viewer is now back in the TPV Directory.
(as already explained -see quote below- this doesn't *guarantee*
anything by itself, but it's encouraging).
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n if you disable the whole SL audio system
Thanks for this feature!
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e.com/search?q="The+missing+strings+are+shown+look+like+the+shortcut+part+of+the+menus"
Is this expected?
Anyone else experiencing this?
If this issue exists, can be solved by fine-tuning JIRA website settings?
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On a second though, this solution (paired with the information from
"About Second Life") seems good enough to me.
Also, simplifying the viewer as a general approach is indeed necessary
and reasonable.
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> Per
ly be good enough (since interested
people are "techie" enough to know how to get there);
should I choose between yes/no I would say "no" - remove them as
most SL users aren't interested in that information and/or don't know
what it means.
IMO
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ion in Preferences to choose the folder where we keep layouts
- add a menu command to choose a specific layout file - then the viewer
would copy that file into the actual settings folder.
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later, and LL never supported officially
scraping of its website as a feature itself.
Some businesses may be negatively impacted by the change,
sure, but I don't see this becoming a large-scale problem
at all - especially if compared to other SL problems.
Opensour
input sim name and coordinates
in the "Start at" text field. Locations can be also browsed in the
login page itself.
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, in addition to the existing locations (home & last location)
3. choose a location and log in
A completely different approach could be: embed SL map in the login
screen and let people use it to choose a location where to log in.
But I digress.
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On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1
I saw something similar with recent development viewer builds on Linux.
It makes the viewer unusable to me (it actually freezes for a few seconds
here, not just slow down).
I will add more details to VWR-24361 asap.
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On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 15:40, Aleric Inglewood
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On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 18:51, Ponzu wrote:
> You mean Android on a mobile device?
Yeah - I'm looking for a text-only client that could run on
existing low-end (non-rooted) mobile devices running Android.
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t violating TPVP and could apply for
inclusion in the Directory, but it's a bit hard to trust them right now.
(what do you think?)
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inking about management of Bookmarks in current
main web browsers, where you're allowed to edit
both name and destination of a bookmark, tag it,
assign to multiple folders (or tags).
Does this make sense to anyone here?
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ng there. IIRC this behaviour can't be improved.
It would be awesome if I could copy a SLURL from my web browser,
then paste it into my Inventory and then (later) click it to teleport there.
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ll contact sim owners, in order to show them they're using (and
I guess paying for) a device that prevents legit users from visiting
their lands.
Please note I don't and can't access to Adult areas - so I couldn't help
if we're talking about Zindra regions.
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bug Settings
about Depth of Field (that's ok, since IIRC that feature is only present
in the last Mesh dev. builds).
I guess it would be good if many of us were able to create new,
up-to-date versions of the list.
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a SL region running that software had been available on Preview Grid
for a short time,
but then it was put offline (and had never been updated anyway)
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his may work for some people who don't read the list often
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I would assume that we non-contributors still can comment
here in the mailing list, if appropriate.
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r setting sticks when you restart it.
Problem is you can't close the floater and the Preferences window.
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about this depth-of-field
feature? (wiki pages, blog/forums, JIRA...)
It really looks good. I'm going to download a test build now.
Thanks in advance
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links to open-source experimental viewers
and development builds - it would be cool to have the whole
list available in a single page.
Sorry if I'm not clear - I'm not asking to delete any page,
just to get a 100%comprehensive list in a single place.
Ope
ps that page from being more flexible &
up-to-date).
Also remember that dynamic shadows still are a totally unsupported,
unofficial feature with no actual roadmap, so I wouldn't expect any
specific official recommendation from LL about it.
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u need to force stop dancing or stop hugging, you will use the
"Stop Animating Me" command. Normally, you would just use a scripted
item.
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http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2010/11/new-ec2-instance-type-the-cluster-gpu-instance.html
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; a fairly high end cloud server instance (with CPU and GPU) to EACH
> logged in user. That might eventually be plausible, but right now
> it'd
> be like taking on the cost of about 10 additional grids with no
> additional income.
t
I'm downloading right now the latest Linux Mesh Development build,
and it amounts to 198 MB, while Win and Mac versions seem to have
'normal' weight (~25 and ~50 MB)
Is this expected?
build filename is SecondLife-i686-2.4.0.214802.tar.bz2
Ope
* my friend changes his Display Name into "Gianni Rossi". This is not
meant to alter the relationship in any way
* if I look for "John", "Doe", "John Doe", or "john.doe" I can't find
my friend anymore
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As a viewer user, I'd like to get a meaningful error
message in such a situation.
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OMG!?!?! THIS WILL [destroy SL economy|eat all
your cheese|kill your kittens] !!!11!!!1!
I can't believe nobody is considering the idea that
the current setting may just be an overlooking and that
the default behaviour could be restored before this
goes into production.
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the viewer is called with your favorite settings.
AFAIK, all Debug Settings can be set this way before
logging in - just add "-set SettingName SETTINGVALUE".
This will work even if a setting is not session-persistant.
HTH,
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to pay attention to other bugs. Hopefully someone more directly
concerned by this issue will do that.
That's what I'd suggest you to do, by the way.
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> theres already jiras about it yes.
f chat.
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my non-US
keyboards?
Backtick is not available on Italian keyboards, and I suspect this is
true for
other keyboard layouts as well.
CTRL + SHIFT + J is available, as well as CTRL + SHIFT + U,
and they're universal.
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:55:57 -0700, Kelly Linden
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> There are multiple issues at play here:
> What I understand is that the viewer is flogging our servers to brute force
> build the data being requested
And doesn't this violate the TPV policy, 1.a ?
Open
collective praise: You did a great job.
THANKS
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r freeze on loading large scripts).
> Oh trust me, its a good one to fix but it sure isnt "the" bug :)
> Personally, the one that gets furthest up my nose is the cursor drift
what is the PJIRA entry for that?
does it affect all viewer releases?
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> Opensource Obscure wrote:
>> When Deferred Rendering is enabled and you're in
>> building mode, the RGB arrows that you use to move
>> prims don't "stop" at the prim surface anymore.
>>
&g
http://m.friendfeed-media.com/206e6a7e4a14518e27f084d30c9cec0d58873520
If I recall correctly, a PJIRA entry already exists
for this bug - but unfortunately I can't find it.
Can you help me to find it please? I'd like to update it.
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also created the feature request.
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Is MediaAPI mailing list supposed to be working?
Maybe the list should be closed - or instead its existence
should be advertised again in order to promote activity.
There were no replies to the following questions, that were
the only message in the last months.
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ploads
with viewers that allow it.
Using Aditi probably means you have to log off and relog often,
as not everybody uses two viewers at the same time. Also, some
people can't access Aditi until their account are fixed. Etc.
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me to create additional menu entries or icon desktops that
point to the same viewer, but with different configurations.
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and turn off GI for a better frame rate.
>
> Thats a powerful idea, is there a new feature JIRA for this on the LL
> pJIRA currenty? if not could I kindly ask you to create one for it and
> post the issue number back here.
+1
I like a lot leliel's suggestion about Windlight control
officially supported by LL/SL
If I read correctly, you may want to try Icesphere:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Dzonatas_Sol/Icesphere
http://icyspherical.blogspot.com
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ts grayed out and deactivated in certain
> contexts.
If our aim is to make the menu lighter, cleaner and simpler to
read, especially for a newbie, I'd prefer to completely hide
those entries from the menu. Grayed and deactivated entries
are still being read and their meaning is processed by
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:18:44 +0200, Lance Corrimal
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> On Friday 20 August 2010 10:08:13 Opensource Obscure wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:44:47 +1000, Tateru Nino
>>
>> wrote:
>> > Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although,
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s "Username") is public
- in my case, Username = "oobscure"
- full name (properly "Name") in my case is "Opensource Obscure"
- in your case, Name = Username = "MysticalDemina"
- other people publicly use my Username to "mention" me ("
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:53:18 -0700, Daniel Smith
wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Baloo Uriza
wrote:
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>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:15:14 -0700, Daniel Smith wrote:
>>
>> > I'll ask the Lindens a direct question:
>> >
>> > What will you do to prevent others from using my username as their
topic?
It is just you:
https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/2010-August/002649.html
(or maybe I'm missing some rule about how fast Lindens must reply)
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>> ok, lets try this again.
>>
>> Here are some distict questions, and I would like to
think this is a good idea we can complete the work,
then split the docs and create a separate page, for example
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Compiling_a_standalone_viewer_(Linux)
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of the current menu may improve it further but this
should have low priority in relation to other UI issues.
As always, providing users with the ability to choose a different
system (that is, pie menu) may be ideal - but again, this shouldn't
have an high priority.
Opensource Ob
'd tend to agree with this specific request.
Opensource Obscure
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