[opensource-dev] A fond farewell

2011-03-04 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
In case you hadn't already heard, this is one of my last emails as Q Linden. Today's my last day. It's been fun working with you all. You may see me again as a contributor. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for all of your passion. Q ___ Policies an

Re: [opensource-dev] Prduct/Business Lead for Snowstorm

2011-02-09 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Hitomi Tiponi wrote: > Is there any news on when Snowstorm will be getting a new Product/Business > Lead (it is still listed as Esbee on the wiki) or who is dealing with such > matters in the interim? > For the time being, it's me. We'll let you know when that cha

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-465 Missing Strings from strings.xml

2011-02-03 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/108/#review318 --- Ship it! I'm happy now. :) - Kent On Feb. 3, 2011, 8:20 a.m.,

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-465 Missing Strings from strings.xml

2011-02-02 Thread Kent Quirk
> On Feb. 2, 2011, 8:56 a.m., Kent Quirk wrote: > > So I have a couple of issues with this patch: > > > > * I'm worried about the translation impact, how these strings are used and > > where. Should they be localized? Should they not be localized? I find it

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-465 Missing Strings from strings.xml

2011-02-02 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/108/#review307 --- So I have a couple of issues with this patch: * I'm worried about

Re: [opensource-dev] C++ Need help to resolve stdint.h typedef conflicts between Quicktime and VS2010

2011-01-31 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Looks like there are two versions of stdint.h accessible in your build -- one in GNUCompatibility, and one in VC. I'm not sure why you're finding different ones in different order, but you want to make sure that you're using the same library search path everywhere. If your library search path i

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: Use consistent path for all *.py scripts

2011-01-31 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/129/#review286 --- I would much prefer that we put the /usr/bin/env python form, sinc

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: make PREHASH variables char const* const

2011-01-24 Thread Kent Quirk
> On Jan. 24, 2011, 6:42 a.m., Oz Linden wrote: > > If the file is generated, what is it doing checked into the source tree at > > all? This sounds to me like an invitation to future errors. > > > > Is there some reason why we should not just delete the checked in version > > and have it gene

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
>> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0800 >> From: missannoto...@yahoo.com >> To: q...@lindenlab.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications >> >> Doesn't it add some minor over

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-243 Suppress version change message in the viewer

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/109/#review192 --- Ship it! We've had the discussion and the change looks solid. -

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24100 Settings.xml: redundant entries and unnecessary tag

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/18/#review182 --- Ship it! These changes are all reasonable. Please go ahead. - Ken

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
know > what it means. > IMO > > Opensource Obscure > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 16:22, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) > wrote: >> Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet >> Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that te

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Can you please explain why you care? Is there a reason why you want a notification? On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011, 16:22:45 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): >> Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that

[opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the simulator version changed when you changed to a new region. I think we should delete it entirely. Does anyone care to still get that notification, no

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: (STORM-550) LLDir::getNextFileInDir fails for some complex wildcard combinations

2011-01-11 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/32/#review141 --- Ship it! I haven't built it, but I'm presuming that since you wrot

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-830 Volume slider isn't properly remembered if set to zero

2011-01-10 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/72/#review139 --- Ship it! Looks good now. - Kent On Jan. 6, 2011, 2:37 p.m., Jon

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-830 Volume slider isn't properly remembered if set to zero

2011-01-10 Thread Kent Quirk
> On Jan. 6, 2011, 5:37 p.m., Aleric Inglewood wrote: > > This is really not how you want to deal with this bug :/. It's a known > > fact that audio mixers are very bad with low volumes. Setting a volume to 0 > > (or something really small) can put a very high load on the CPU for the > > audi

Re: [opensource-dev] storm-34

2011-01-09 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
You can't see the private favorites before login, so you shouldn't expect to see the "favorite landmarks" setting during login. You can only see it after login. This is because you don't have a private prefs available until after login. Q On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: (STORM-550) LLDir::getNextFileInDir fails for some complex wildcard combinations

2011-01-07 Thread Kent Quirk
> On Jan. 5, 2011, 11:34 a.m., Oz Linden wrote: > > Just one policy question with this... > > > > This implementation uses llwarns for various errors in the glob expression. > > > > Given that I expect that the glob expression will normally (always?) be > > hard coded (I hope no one will accep

Re: [opensource-dev] Very Strange occurrence...

2011-01-05 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
So the reason that semi-plausible strings are used for these things is that they're the only strings available when we use the test floater feature from the login screen. But we should probably try not to use real names. And yes, Jonathan, these should mostly never be visible. But sometimes thi

Re: [opensource-dev] [HELP] LLFeaturemanager.cpp question

2010-12-17 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
I haven't delved into this code recently, but the featuretable is now downloaded from our servers each time (so we can adjust without having to re-release the software). It does lag by one iteration, though (we've already set up the video by the time it's downloaded, so it affects the NEXT run).

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: Crash in LLRemoteParcelInfoProcessor::processParcelInfoReply()

2010-12-16 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/24/#review36 --- Ship it! Wow, nice catch. I was looking for this bug earlier and di

Re: [opensource-dev] pasting into quick search

2010-12-07 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
That was a bug I fixed last week. STORM-716. It seems to be fixed in both beta and viewer-development. Are you sure you're using the latest build? On Dec 6, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: > Can someone see if they can repo this? > On todays builds, if i click into an empty quick search

Re: [opensource-dev] nametag opacity

2010-12-03 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
This was the subject of some confusion and we're still working on it. Please bear with us. Q On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > On 12/03/2010 12:28 PM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: >> >> Since the recent preferences overhaul (see STORM-31 and in particular >> STORM-573) >

Re: [opensource-dev] Upcoming depth-of-field feature

2010-11-30 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Can we please not have the "fix bugs not features" and "add missing features now" debates? We have a lot of developers, and they work in different areas, and both features and bugs are considered on our backlog and prioritized according to available resources. If you disagree with the priority o

Re: [opensource-dev] Directory named "$(CONFIGURATION)" (was: No rule to make target)

2010-11-09 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Just a note -- since the XCode tools are free, high quality, and supported, Linden Lab is unlikely to put any significant prioritization into making other toolsets work on the mac. If someone else wants to add such support without breaking what we have, then we won't gratuitously break it, but w

Re: [opensource-dev] Log file names (was: Request for feedback - Preferences Cleanup)

2010-11-09 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
I think the filename needs to be based on the unique account name, with any periods (.) replaced by underscore (_). The display names can change weekly, and as you note it would be much more difficult to track based on display name. Q On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Oz Linden (Scott La

Re: [opensource-dev] Files deleted by uninstaller don't appear in Recycle Bin

2010-10-29 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Ok, people are quoting me without also quoting the context of the statement I was responding to, which was a categorical "never", and also not quoting what else I said, which was: > Now I do think we can try do better; asking about deletion is on the > Snowstorm backlog. > > There's work goi

Re: [opensource-dev] Files deleted by uninstaller don't appear in Recycle Bin

2010-10-27 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Au contraire. Some people get very upset when an installer leaves any files behind that were created by the program automatically, such as log files. It's simply not true that the uninstaller shouldn't remove anything in the profile -- I have worked at multiple companies where leaving behind any

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer-development and viewer-beta

2010-10-26 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Briefly: viewer-development is the repository for daily work, the 'trunk'. Things checked in there go into the development viewer; the expectation is that those things are ready for release -- but it doesn't always work out that way. When we want to start the release process, we pull to viewer-

Re: [opensource-dev] Tools of the trade.

2010-10-20 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
We've been having this discussion internally for some time. There's a lot of friction because a) we have to update lots of developers, and b) we have to rebuild all the libraries and distribute them internally. We've been working on a tool called autobuild which will automate this process; it's

Re: [opensource-dev] Project-MESH viewer

2010-10-20 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
So our old version of full-screen antialiasing (FSAA) was causing crashes. We have made changes to the supporting infrastructure for stability; these changes meant that some machines that used to do FSAA no longer could. We had a bug under windows that was causing the new mechanism to break. We

Re: [opensource-dev] Jira Issue Resolution Issue

2010-10-11 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
So we've modified the JIRA system again to allow residents to reopen issues in VWR and STORM. But with power comes responsibility -- we aren't going to tolerate edit wars, and we're not going to let JIRA be a place to vent your frustrations with us or with each other. Please keep it polite. Reo

Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 9, Issue 27

2010-10-06 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Create, and Land buttons with a > list, I suppose a combo_box, to save horizontal space. How does one do that? > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 22:30:51 -0400 > From: "Kent Quirk (Q Linden)" > Subject: Re: [opensour

Re: [opensource-dev] How is the XUI part of the interface designed?

2010-10-06 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
There's no GUI editor. However, there is a nice little assistance tool. From the login screen ONLY, you can invoke the GUI Preview tool by hitting alt-ctrl-T (or cmd-ctrl-T on a Mac). It will bring up a dialog that you can use to display any of our dialog boxes, in two languages at once if you w

Re: [opensource-dev] Where oh where has my rendering gone?

2010-10-05 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Well, it's not quite like that. To pull this off, you'd have to take everywhere we set a color, and set it instead to its equivalent black and white value (there's a formula that's traditionally used, although there's no "correct" way to do it: Y = 0.3*R + 0.59*G + 0.11*B). You *might* be able

Re: [opensource-dev] Unity 3D as possible base for future (maybe even official) SL Viewers

2010-10-05 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Agreed (a day late). Teravus' post is great -- very insightful, and it mimics our own thinking. The complexity of what we render, and the fact that it's not professionally created content, means that we get all sorts of edge cases that aren't a problem in traditional graphics engines. Many syst

Re: [opensource-dev] 2.0 Absolute Dealbreaker - script count feature request

2010-10-01 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Gigs wrote: > On 09/29/2010 07:06 PM, Kelly Linden wrote: >> * In my mind the biggest issue is that mono scripts will appear 4x worse >> than LSL scripts. This is really the reason I am hesitant to push a >> function like this through before we have the ability for mo

[opensource-dev] Snowstorm changes

2010-09-28 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hello, everyone. We've had a good first few weeks of the Snowstorm team. It took a little longer than we'd hoped, but we have launched the Viewer 2 Beta for version 2.2.0, and we're continuing to move forward (new beta very soon). Much of our success in this period can be attributed to the uns

Re: [opensource-dev] major problem with beta 2.2

2010-09-24 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: > As a User I expect and NEED usernames to be displayed in group chat and used > properly in group and conference chat logs. > Instead I am seeing in both chat and in logs, usernames replaced with the > group or conference name!!! > I see this

Re: [opensource-dev] major problem with beta 2.2

2010-09-24 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Yup, that's a genuine bug: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23168 We'll try to get it fixed for Beta 2. Q On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: > As a User I expect and NEED usernames to be displayed in group chat and used > properly in group and conference chat logs. > In

Re: [opensource-dev] Landmarks on login?

2010-09-16 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Have you got a JIRA, or better yet, a pointer to the code in question? Sounds like it's worth investigating. Q On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Brandon Husbands wrote: > > viewer 2, Why ohh why on log in is it grabbing all landmarks then getting > region handles for them? > > -- > -

Re: [opensource-dev] esbee hour transcripts?

2010-09-10 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Esbee_Linden/Office_Hours/2010-09-08 On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: > Is there a link to the transcripts of esbee's last office hour? I kinda need > them to proceed with the next phase for some of the user stories I am working > on :) > _

[opensource-dev] code review request

2010-09-03 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hi, all, getting back into it a little during recovery. Can I please get a review and perhaps pull for: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20945 Code is here: Fix is in https://bitbucket.org/kentquirk/vwr-20945 changeset 123b6d316c16 This issue is important to our release team. Thanks!

Re: [opensource-dev] voice morphing missing from viewer-external?

2010-06-11 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Just getting the export process together. Sorry for the delay -- it should be there today. Q On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Hi, > > after seeing the 2.1 announcement on the wiki I checked out & build the > latest > viewer-external, but voice morphing is not in t

Re: [opensource-dev] Call for stability patches

2010-05-25 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Thanks, Kitty. This is great research. I've forwarded it to some internal people who are looking at it. I've asked them to comment here when we know more. Q On May 25, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Kitty wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone at LL is currently working on (or aware of) this, but > a few o

[opensource-dev] Call for stability patches

2010-05-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hello, folks. LL developers are busily working on the 2.1 release, which you can read about in Esbee's blog post here: http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2010/05/05/on-the-road-to-viewer-21 Some of the things we're working on, as are mentioned there, are stability an

Re: [opensource-dev] Can you legally agree to incomprehensible conditions?

2010-04-01 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
cument using our normal logic and our normal dictionary. I'll >> repeat his words here for clarity: >> >> >> Kent Quirk (Q Linden) q at lindenlab.com >> Sun Mar 21 10:24:13 PDT 2010 >> >> I'm emphatically not a lawyer and I don't s

Re: [opensource-dev] Wiki posting: Open Source Repository Strategy

2010-03-22 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Latif Khalifa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) > wrote: >> Hi, all. I've created a draft of our repository strategy for how we will be >> handling open development branches at LL, and posted an annotated

Re: [opensource-dev] Wiki posting: Open Source Repository Strategy

2010-03-22 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
repositories and > experimental branches to developer and test patches. > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) > wrote: > Hi, all. I've created a draft of our repository strategy for how we will be > handling open development branches at

Re: [opensource-dev] Wiki posting: Open Source Repository Strategy

2010-03-22 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
On Mar 22, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > Hi Q > > thanks for illustrating the planned process. > > On 03/22/2010 04:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote: >> >> Since it's policy we intend to follow, please edit only for clarity. If it >> nee

[opensource-dev] Wiki posting: Open Source Repository Strategy

2010-03-21 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hi, all. I've created a draft of our repository strategy for how we will be handling open development branches at LL, and posted an annotated diagram on the wiki. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Repository_Strategy Questions and constructive commentary are encouraged. Since

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

2010-03-21 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
I'm emphatically not a lawyer and I don't speak for our legal team. But: * Legalese is a specialized language. It's not strictly English, and it's not always amenable to "common sense" interpretation. Think of lawyers as people who write code in an underspecified language for a buggy compiler, a

Re: [opensource-dev] oh give me a break

2010-03-14 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Marine Kelley wrote: > However it is true that LL has delivered a bad message recently, by > publishing the TPV and the closed-source SL 2.0 the SAME day. The TPV burdens > us developers while freeing LL's hands, and the viewer 2.0 is going to be > adopted by newco

Re: [opensource-dev] Client-side scripting in Snowglobe

2010-02-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
This makes me sad. I've been trying to have an open discussion about some of the design issues in my office hours, specifically to understand the constraints and requirements of the community. But every office hour seems to be followed up by flames on this list and in other forums interpreting