Re: [opensource-dev] Windows ReleaseOS build unable to load textures

2019-02-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
Graham worked on a fix for this which is an improvement but still has some loading issues: https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/viewer-tco You'll need to build it with -DUSE_OPENJPEG:BOOL=TRUE to test that path anyway, the TC-built version assumes KDU. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 5:15 AM Kadah I'm workin

Re: [opensource-dev] tr: Re: viewer64 SL_Launcher

2017-07-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
You have to go unsubsubscribe from this list yourself; no one is going to do it for you. On 7/1/17, Jean Pierre KOLLHOFF wrote: > > > >> Thank you for cancelling a subscription to me of your sendings I am not >> interested. >> >> >> >> >> Message du 01/07/17 01:31> De : "Nicky Perian" > A : "Nat

Re: [opensource-dev] viewer64 SL_Launcher

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Welch
There is a Nvidia control program that comes with a list of registered programs and which graphics chip they should run on. An individual can add to/edit that list. When this was a new issue years ago someone at LL found the right person to contact inside Nvidia and got the viewer's name added to

Re: [opensource-dev] viewer64 SL_Launcher

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Welch
Some systems have two built in graphics chips such as Lenovo laptops with a system called Optimus. One graphics chip is very weak and the other much stronger, bit also more power hungry. As I recall it took a while to register the .EXE name with Nvidia so the stronger chip runs the viewer. Is this

[opensource-dev] post-configuration errors

2017-01-04 Thread Jonathan Welch
At the end of the configuration process I now am getting a screen full of these errors. Should something be adjusted to suppress them or what? -- Configuring done CMake Warning (dev) at media_plugins/libvlc/CMakeLists.txt:61 (add_dependencies) : Policy CMP0046 is not set: Error on non-existent

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-22 Thread Jonathan Welch
installation process it is better to know about these requirements in advance. On 2/21/15, Cinder Roxley wrote: > On February 21, 2015 at 5:50:42 PM, Jonathan Welch (jhwe...@gmail.com) > wrote: > I just started up VS2013 and was exploring some of the windows and > menus and discov

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-21 Thread Jonathan Welch
I just started up VS2013 and was exploring some of the windows and menus and discovered that my trial license is only good for 30 days. The instructions should cover what to do to obtain a long-term license. Warning window: http://i.imgur.com/RwTzJxH.png ___

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-13 Thread Jonathan Welch
In case this bug was missed and/or not fixed the first time I reported it here it is again. The first time building does not succeed: -- Build started: Project: copy_w_viewer_manifest, Configuration: Release Win32 -- Building Custom Rule E:/ss/STORM-0/indra/newview/CMakeLists.txt CMak

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-13 Thread Jonathan Welch
Just a fyi, until the error in the file copy section is fixed (reported earlier in this thread) the first build fails with one error. The second time you build, the files are copied and you are then good to go. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-07 Thread Jonathan Welch
> Autobuild is installed into Python27/scripts -- can this be moved out > of that package's tree? > > No, that's where Python wants it. > Just for fun I moved the Scripts directory out from under where python is installed, adjusted my path accordingly, and was able to configure and compile just fi

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
Some timing stats: VS2010 full build: 25 minutes of which 2 minutes are link time VS2013 full build: 30 minutes of which 1 minute 35 seconds are link time This link time might even get a little faster if the bug/issue I reported a few hours ago is addressed. _

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
soft.Cpp\v4.0\V120\Microsoft.CppCommon.targets(170,5): error MSB6006: "cmd.exe" exited with code 1. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > This error probably should be addressed: > > Message template SHA_1 has not changed. > jpeglib.lib(jerror.obj) : MS

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
This error probably should be addressed: Message template SHA_1 has not changed. jpeglib.lib(jerror.obj) : MSIL .netmodule or module compiled with /GL found; restarting link with /LTCG; add /LTCG to the link command line to improve linker performance On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Jonathan

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
A few more configuration notes/issues: Autobuild is installed into Python27/scripts -- can this be moved out of that package's tree? Autobuild is being fetched from Oz's bitbucket repository -- this should be moved to a generic lindenlab location. On 2/5/15, Nicky Perian wrote: > Thanks for the

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
48 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > More notes: > The Tortoise HG link points to the main web page, not to the file we > are supposed to download. > > The CMake link points to the main web page, not to the file we are > supposed to download. > Also, the instructions call for version 3.1

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
More notes: The Tortoise HG link points to the main web page, not to the file we are supposed to download. The CMake link points to the main web page, not to the file we are supposed to download. Also, the instructions call for version 3.1.0. The latest version is 3.1.1 and the version just prior

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-01-29 Thread Jonathan Welch
When you have finished installing the compiler there is a button to launch it. More documentation needed for: 1) You are then asked to sign in or skip that step. 2) You then see a setup page with a dropdown, I changed from General to C++ hoping that was the right thing to do. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-01-28 Thread Jonathan Welch
>From something Tank said at a meeting: will the resulting executable run on an XP system? If not a note should be put in somewhere about this restriction. On 1/28/15, Callum Prentice (Callum) wrote: > Thanks for the clarification Darien - my working assumption TankMaster is > that those libs/he

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-01-28 Thread Jonathan Welch
If you change your path the instructions fail to mention that you have to open a new command window to pick up those changes -- could that be your problem? On 1/28/15, Melissa Browne wrote: > Has anyone that has tried to build the viewer per the how to set up a > Windows development environment i

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-01-28 Thread Jonathan Welch
I've read over the instructions and have started the install process on a fresh VM. Some notes: These instructions should be written assuming the person reading them is not a developer...yet, but does know their way around when installing software. The yellow info window talks about requirements

Re: [opensource-dev] Jonathan's attempt to rearrange the graphics preferences

2015-01-24 Thread Jonathan Welch
Martin, I am sorry you are unhappy with LL's new UX design but this is one of those cases where no matter what is done someone will be unhappy. I have an idea on how to address the "I want to see everything at once" issue and will send it to Oz for evaluation. How about describing what those bugs

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Wiki page locked ?

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Welch
Copying the raw wiki source might not work without some modifications -- aren't there some LL-specific macros that some pages use? On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:24:18 -0500, Jonathan Welch wrote: > >> I asked Oz about this th

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Wiki page locked ?

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Welch
I asked Oz about this the other day. All wiki pages are still locked with no time frame for when the underlaying security issues will be addressed. -jonathan On 11/8/14, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:02:00 +0200, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:44:50 +0200,

Re: [opensource-dev] Having Trouble Compiling on Windows - 2 Failed Builds

2014-10-09 Thread Jonathan Welch
Also, did you mean to compile a Debug version? There might be some issues with that; try using RelWithDbgInfo (or whatever the correct spelling is for that option). Also #2, until you can get your build going skip the package step (NSIS) -- that is only an additional complication you don't need i

Re: [opensource-dev] where do i get 3p-fmodex?

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan Welch
Yes, sorry, I meant viewer-release (it is pretty early in the morning here!) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting priv

Re: [opensource-dev] where do i get 3p-fmodex?

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan Welch
In the past few days viewer-development just received some fixes for fmodex -- are you building from the most recent sources? On 3/25/14, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Hi, > > that needs to be done in three separate files, right? > > done that. I would rather have a fix that doesn't patch the sources b

Re: [opensource-dev] Building the viewer on windows... problems.

2014-03-09 Thread Jonathan Welch
Make sure the directory where the LL packages get downloaded to on your HD does not have any 0-sized files. That used to be a problem in the past and might still be. On 3/9/14, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to build on windows, and I get this error: > > windows-crash-logger.vcxpro

Re: [opensource-dev] Whatever happened to codereview?

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
Review (or,if that does not work for you, contact Oz) On 1/18/14, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 10:12:50 schrieb Jonathan Welch: >> Bitbucket allows one to insert comments like codereview does, so now >> reviews are done there, no more need to make diffs, etc. >

Re: [opensource-dev] Whatever happened to codereview?

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
Bitbucket allows one to insert comments like codereview does, so now reviews are done there, no more need to make diffs, etc. On 1/18/14, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Hi, > > Is codereview not being used anymore? I'm looking at it now, and the last > entry i see is 5 months old. > > > Cheers, > LC > >

[opensource-dev] Does your TPV access role_id?

2013-10-30 Thread Jonathan Welch
I have been looking into fixing VWR-11778 (Group Invites do not obey Mute settings/group invites not blocked from muted avatars ) https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/vwr-11778 The code block in question is located in llviewermessage.cpp, search for case IM_GROUP_INVITATION: Unfortunately, the serv

Re: [opensource-dev] Cocoa Project Viewer

2013-02-25 Thread Jonathan Welch
Some time ago LL went through a phase of restricting how small the viewer window could be made, which turned out to be something of a mistake. For example, I sometimes need to run my viewer at less than full screen on my 1024x768 scrreen -- I want to expose part of the desktop while monitoring for

Re: [opensource-dev] feature suggestion: make "doubleclick navigation" more "immersive"

2012-09-21 Thread Jonathan Welch
As I recall from some months ago we were told at a PF UG meeting this idea had been discussed but was thought to be too confusing/non-intuitive. Maybe if it were an option there would be more chance of it being approved. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe in

Re: [opensource-dev] New Windows build instructions guidelines -- feedback requested

2012-06-22 Thread Jonathan Welch
Yes, all work is now done against viewer-release. If you find an unchanged viewer-development reference please fix it. On 6/22/12, Jonathan Welch wrote: > Hmmz, on second thought is there any reason for the current > installation order? Maybe that order was just done by what "made

Re: [opensource-dev] New Windows build instructions guidelines -- feedback requested

2012-06-22 Thread Jonathan Welch
Hmmz, on second thought is there any reason for the current installation order? Maybe that order was just done by what "made sense" to list first, so there are no dependencies? On 6/22/12, Jonathan Welch wrote: > I was wondering that too. The reason I am wondering and not saying

Re: [opensource-dev] New Windows build instructions guidelines -- feedback requested

2012-06-22 Thread Jonathan Welch
amework 4 > * Run Microsoft Update > Gaia Clary 21:28, 8 Feb 2012 (CEST) > > > >> >> From: Jonathan Welch >>To: OpenSource Mailing List >>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:28 AM >>Subject: [opensource-dev] New Windows

[opensource-dev] New Windows build instructions guidelines -- feedback requested

2012-06-22 Thread Jonathan Welch
I was asked to write some guidelines for the Windows build instructions. I would like you to take a look at them and make any improvements you can think of. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Talk:Viewer_2_Microsoft_Windows_Builds#A_few_style_guidelines _

Re: [opensource-dev] Desperate about UI bug

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan Welch
Try the fix in https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SH-3153 On 6/13/12, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been struggling with this misbehaviour of my latest TPV... > > On windows, and so far *only* on windows, the UI is "broken" like in > this screenshot: > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2gg4co

Re: [opensource-dev] help with "autobuild package" for fmod

2012-06-10 Thread Jonathan Welch
Those LINK messages are normal and can be ignored. Select and copy the entire output window in the IDE, go to pastebin.com and paste it in there, then write back here with the link so we can look at it. Also don't forget to try asking for help in #opensl on IRC On 6/9/12, Diana Aybar wrote: >>

Re: [opensource-dev] Talk/shout circles on minimap, lost in the cracks?

2012-05-09 Thread Jonathan Welch
The viewer should be out soon (if it is not already) with an improvement to how the nearby list is generated (which the minimap will be using). The change will result in correct agent height data being obtained if the agent is approximately within your draw distance, no matter what height they are

Re: [opensource-dev] Development

2012-05-04 Thread Jonathan Welch
Your first step is to compile the viewer -- have you gotten that far? Longer term you will need to compile and package it for installation on all 3 OS platforms. There are many places you have to alter things to your "brand". One subtle item is the mutex the viewer uses to prevent multiple copie

Re: [opensource-dev] Adding a library

2012-04-15 Thread Jonathan Welch
This was brought up at Oz's user group meeting a while ago and one suggestion was to just write that data directly into the image. Oz will have to write back about how keen he was to have another dependency brought into the viewer. ___ Policies and (un)s

Re: [opensource-dev] Help testing needed on STORM-1812

2012-04-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
This history of this issue is 1) I developed a fix on my Windows system, tested it, and submitted it. For some reason it did not pass QA, which usually means they were not using a test viewer with the fix in it. In this case it is also possible that the instructions were not followed, so I asked

Re: [opensource-dev] Help testing needed on STORM-1812

2012-04-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
thoughts on this matter please give some feedback here. Thanks, -Jonathan On 4/1/12, Jonathan Welch wrote: > The music should fade out and, if you have autoplay enabled, fade back > in when you teleport within a parcel. > > Please test the fix using the viewer which Oz needs to s

Re: [opensource-dev] Help testing needed on STORM-1812

2012-04-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
The music should fade out and, if you have autoplay enabled, fade back in when you teleport within a parcel. Please test the fix using the viewer which Oz needs to supply a link to -- no point in testing a released version which is known to have the problem. -Jonathan

Re: [opensource-dev] ETA on Agni Pathfinding?

2012-02-22 Thread Jonathan Welch
I asked this at the Server meeting yesterday; no release date has been established yet. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated p

[opensource-dev] Pathfinding alpha announced

2012-02-17 Thread Jonathan Welch
In case you did not see the announcement yesterday here it is: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Take-a-Sneak-Peek-at-the-Pathfinding-Experiments-Being-Conducted/ba-p/1386511 ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http:/

[opensource-dev] Odd disappearing vehicle

2012-01-30 Thread Jonathan Welch
Someone just reported to me that they had found a vehicle at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fortuna/5/243/26 If you try to select it or if you try to right click on it it disappears. How can this be possible? I used the object scanner in Radegast to do a bit more sleuthing, but even in there if you

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-1793 1) Treat all mini-map altitudes above 1020 m as the same height 2) Improve z-level accuracy

2012-01-27 Thread Jonathan Welch
> PS: I really want to be able to get rid of my lag-creating Sensor-based HUD > for a pure client-side system. Hence my active commentary. The server team is not going to be making changes to the current system; they have said the cost of doing that, the additional load on the servers, etc. is no

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-1793 1) Treat all mini-map altitudes above 1020 m as the same height 2) Improve z-level accuracy

2012-01-27 Thread Jonathan Welch
> Would the client have a problem if another word was added to the message > giving - duplicating the data, but allowing newer clients to choose to use > the new word while older clients use the old byte? Yes, because the coarseupdate packet holds many positions, it is not just 1 packet per avatar

Re: [opensource-dev] Building Viewer 2, can't get audio to work

2012-01-26 Thread Jonathan Welch
If you have more immediate questions look for help on IRC system Freenode, channel #opensl ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderate

Re: [opensource-dev] Building Viewer 2, can't get audio to work

2012-01-26 Thread Jonathan Welch
> autobuild configure -c ReleaseOS FMOD=YES The only thing I can see at a quick glance that deviates from the instructions is the above line. Delete your build directory (build-vc100) and redo the configuration command with autobuild configure -c ReleaseOS -- -DLL_TESTS:BOOL=FALSE -DPACKAGE:BOOL=

Re: [opensource-dev] mesh upload crash in recent builds...

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Welch
Do you get the same result/crash when trying to upload via a different menu entry point? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated

Re: [opensource-dev] mesh upload crash in recent builds...

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Welch
It sounds like you are running a self-compiled viewer, in which case OPEN-113 probably applies (Build > Upload > Model is not disabled in OS built viewers) https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-113 ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available h

Re: [opensource-dev] Changing the name

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
Also see strings.xml which defines APP_NAME and CAPITALIZED_APP_NAME ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] Changing the name

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
There is one non-obvious place that I came across a while ago--the startup code takes out a mutex, probably so it has a way of seeing if you are trying to run more than one viewer at a time (and have the setting for that disabled). -jonathan ___ Policies

Re: [opensource-dev] Anim format files upload

2012-01-17 Thread Jonathan Welch
It is easy to add that code change, but what happens at the server when it receives an .anim file? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep un

Re: [opensource-dev] Inventory Patch you should integrate

2012-01-06 Thread Jonathan Welch
If you do not have this patch there is a 50% chance that when you open a box with an outfit and pick Copy and Wear not all items will be worn. (If I have gotten these facts wrong please correct me Oz). On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:15:58 -0500, Oz

[opensource-dev] Testers needed for OPEN-130 (Modify autobuild to allow control over where libraries are downloaded)

2012-01-03 Thread Jonathan Welch
I just tested this little patch on Windows. If you build on Mac or Linux it would be helpful if you could test this and report back in a jira comment. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-130 Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Policies and (un)subscribe informa

[opensource-dev] Spammy isFeatureAvailable message in secondlife.log file

2011-11-21 Thread Jonathan Welch
I've been getting this spammy message in my secondlife.log file for viewers I have been compiling from tip recently (not sure how long ago it started): WARNING: LLFeatureList::isFeatureAvailable: ONCE (164400th time seen): Feature VertexShaderEnable not on feature list! Does anyone have a clue how

Re: [opensource-dev] User input solicited picking a number...

2011-11-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
have to be handled in a new jira. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > > On 2011-11-18 9:53, Jonathan Welch wrote: >> >> Any TPV that wants to pick up this new feature before the two debug >> settings are eliminated should do so quickly,

[opensource-dev] Mac & Linux testers needed

2011-11-12 Thread Jonathan Welch
I need someone who has built the viewer from tip on the 11th or later on both mac and linux to perform a quick test: can you resize your viewer window below 1024x768? If so would you please comment on VWR-27482 (Unable to resize viewer window below 1024x768)? https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR

[opensource-dev] Viewer-develop-commits emails

2011-11-01 Thread Jonathan Welch
The last few messages I have received from viewer-develop-commits in digest form have included every single diff. Could someone at LL look at what changed and restore the previous behavior of only sending the summary headers? ___ Policies and (un)subscri

Re: [opensource-dev] Public Land example

2011-10-27 Thread Jonathan Welch
en exist any more? All the abandoned land has reverted >> to Gov. Linden since 1.9 >> >> On 10/27/2011 05:17 PM, Jonathan Welch wrote: >>> For a viewer change I am working on I need to find a parcel that is >>> public land. This will show up in the About Lan

Re: [opensource-dev] Public Land example

2011-10-27 Thread Jonathan Welch
The value in the owner field will not be a normal looking name -- it will be (public) On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > For a viewer change I am working on I need to find a parcel that is > public land. This will show up in the About Land Owner field as > (public

[opensource-dev] Public Land example

2011-10-27 Thread Jonathan Welch
For a viewer change I am working on I need to find a parcel that is public land. This will show up in the About Land Owner field as (public) Can anyone point me to such a spot? I have tried visiting Infohubs, Help Island, Blake Sea, abandoned mainland, etc. but so far no luck. Thanks, -Jonatha

[opensource-dev] Question about speed of name cache query

2011-10-25 Thread Jonathan Welch
For my solution to Storm-1653 (Group notices sent by muted residents are still displayed) I have to call gCacheName->buildLegacyName to get the AgentID associated with a legacy name. It looks like this code may operate asynchronously if there is a cache miss. In my testing I was always able to ge

Re: [opensource-dev] Eliminate VS2010 LNK4099 errors

2011-10-19 Thread Jonathan Welch
2010 LNK4099 errors > > On 2011-10-17 20:41, Jonathan Welch wrote: >> I've got tired of seeing blasts of LNK4099 errors fly up the screen >> when I compile so I looked into how to eliminate them. It seems the >> only way to do this is to hack link.exe and change

Re: [opensource-dev] FUI project just out

2011-10-19 Thread Jonathan Welch
I have good first impressions of this change, but there also need to be some tweaks made to it: Notification well at top right is always on top of floaters, so I cannot have any floater flush right any more Allow notification well to be moved to bottom right Change default of left docked buttons

[opensource-dev] Eliminate VS2010 LNK4099 errors

2011-10-17 Thread Jonathan Welch
I've got tired of seeing blasts of LNK4099 errors fly up the screen when I compile so I looked into how to eliminate them. It seems the only way to do this is to hack link.exe and change the 4 bytes that equal 4099 to something else. See http://www.bottledlight.com/docs/lnk4099.html In my case t

[opensource-dev] Feedback wanted for VWR-26858 (User-defined build icons)

2011-09-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
Partly to solve a lack of new icon space needed by Storm-49 and partly to improve in-world building I have created VWR-26858 (https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26858) and would appreciate your comments on this proposed new feature I would like to work on. Oz and Esbee might appreciate a few "

Re: [opensource-dev] ok wtf is this?

2011-09-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
A good way to follow what is happening in viewer-development is to subscribe to the commit mailing list: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/viewer-development-commits On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Dave Booth wrote: > On 9/5/2011 11:14 AM, Tateru Nino wrote: >> >> Indeedy. An

[opensource-dev] TPV developers -- register your viewer with Nvidia for Optimus support

2011-08-24 Thread Jonathan Welch
I just sent this to the TPV mailing list but am not sure if it will reach everyone who should see it, so here goes again: -- I just tried a TPV on my new laptop which has Optimus technology (a slow video chip and a more powerful video card) and was wondering for a moment why it was running

Re: [opensource-dev] How to upload a mesh on v-d rev 20205 ?

2011-08-24 Thread Jonathan Welch
Sounds like the message handling should be improved for viewers that cannot upload. Even better would be to gray out the menu item. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Marine Kelley wrote: > Thanks... I wouldn't have guessed that all by myself. lol. > > I see on that JIRA entry that I'm not the on

Re: [opensource-dev] Autobuild errors

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Welch
Anyone can change the wiki page -- please update it if you encounter problems. > The wiki documention should really be changed to not mention any of the > configs without *OS first as only internal Linden builds can use those. ___ Policies and (un)subscr

Re: [opensource-dev] Highlight Transparent Broken?

2011-06-24 Thread Jonathan Welch
If no one files a jira on highlight transparent malfunctioning it won't be fixed. Would someone take care of this? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before p

Re: [opensource-dev] Highlight Transparent Broken?

2011-06-23 Thread Jonathan Welch
Could you also check glow (cts-644/cts-656) and windlight clouds (storm-1314) to see if either of those are non-functional for you? I have a feeling that some of these are related to each other. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:

Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider

2011-06-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
There is an updated version of the draw distance review viewer here: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_project-1/rev/233253/index.html Changes include slightly better artwork, re-repositioning of the icon's location, and if you exceed 280m a notification (which you

[opensource-dev] Volunteer wanted: Wiki Skinning reorganization

2011-06-17 Thread Jonathan Welch
There are two top-level wiki entries for skinning: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Skinning_How_To https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Skinning_HowTo I just created links to all the subsections in each of them and so discovered there are two categories with very similar names. There seems to be a m

Re: [opensource-dev] Question about DD philosophy.

2011-06-16 Thread Jonathan Welch
At yesterday's meeting with Oz having a FPS auto-tune system was discussed. I am going to try to write up a description of how this could be implemented and once it is fleshed out will post it here for comments. -jonathan ___ Policies and (un)subscribe

Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
While testing the updated graphic I've been looking at the cautionary wording on the slider and am not happy with it. There is no good way to align the text so it looks nice in all languages and the width of the slider would have to be wide enough to support the longest word in whatever language t

Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
I added in the labels and have been thinking about i10n issues with them. Would be better to use a graphic or else have some other window appear with a warning message? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com

Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
I too am a bit worried that novice viewer users will hurt themselves with this slider in an easily accessible place. How about tying the presence of the control to only show when the Advanced menu has been enabled (in addition or instead of the warning labels Joshua has suggested)? Presumably som

Re: [opensource-dev] Debug console changes -- feedback sought

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
You have to do a viewer restart to get showconsoleWindow to display. There's also a command line switch for it. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posti

Re: [opensource-dev] Debug console changes -- feedback sought

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
The debug setting showconsoleWindow gives you a free-standing window with the same information scrolling by in it. In Windows I get a dos-type window, so copying and pasting is not as easy as it should be. > It should be copiable and pastable ! The debug console is nigh useless > without these two

[opensource-dev] Debug console changes -- feedback sought

2011-06-11 Thread Jonathan Welch
If you use the debug console (Ctrl+Shift+4) I would like your feedback on some changes I would like to make to it: 1) Widen the lines from 50% of the screen width to 75% 2) Reduce the spacing between lines from 8px to 1px 3) Swap the foreground and background colors (I am not sure how effective thi

Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer - draw distance slider

2011-06-10 Thread Jonathan Welch
Those binoculars were just something I picked up quickly not expecting they would be a permanent solution. Later I experimented with a few eyes, but 1) the color has to work in shades of grey and 2) has to be scaled down to 16px*16px, so oblong shapes don't fare very well. -jonathan _

[opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider

2011-06-10 Thread Jonathan Welch
In case you missed the message from Oz in a different thread here is the review viewer for the proposed draw distance slider: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_project-3/rev/232119/index.html There is a temporary binocular graphic next to volume slider where you ac

Re: [opensource-dev] Minimum draw distance

2011-06-10 Thread Jonathan Welch
For those of you who were not at yesterday's Snowstorm scrum Wolf told us this feature is being evaluated. They 1) don't want the UI to be too complicated and 2) would like to merge Basic mode in with Advanced. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information

Re: [opensource-dev] Minimum draw distance

2011-06-10 Thread Jonathan Welch
The icon was just something I found and is a placeholder until a better-designed one can be generated. A friend testing this found what might be considered a bug which none of you advanced people would notice: when you click on the gear and am sent to the preferences window you do not see the adva

[opensource-dev] Minimum draw distance

2011-06-06 Thread Jonathan Welch
I have been working on a draw distance slider and realized this would be a good time to have a discussion about what the lowest value you can set your draw distance to should be. If you have an opinion of why it should be lowered from what it is now, 64, please reply to this message with your reas

[opensource-dev] Sorting table displays

2011-06-05 Thread Jonathan Welch
When you open up the information for a group and get the list of members, their role title, and their last active date none of those columns are sorted by default. Should one be and if so, which one? Are there other tables like this that you can think of which would benefit from being sorted (wit

[opensource-dev] Search project viewer

2011-05-29 Thread Jonathan Welch
In case you have not caught the message yet a project viewer with the new search recently came out: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Search_Project_Viewer_FAQ There is mention of V1 All and Group search being turned off once it goes to full release. ___ P

Re: [opensource-dev] question SL tracking data

2011-05-26 Thread Jonathan Welch
See if Preferences->Move & View->Other Devices looks like what you are asking for. > we would need triggers for > 1 Primary Secondary and Tetrary "buttons" > 2 plus and minus translate for each of the X Y Z axis > 3 plus and minus rotate for each of the X Y Z axis > 4 some sort of toggle to swap fr

Re: [opensource-dev] question SL tracking data

2011-05-26 Thread Jonathan Welch
The relevant block of code for the Space Navigator and related devices seems to be bool LLViewerJoystick::isLikeSpaceNavigator() const { #if LIB_NDOF return (isJoystickInitialized() && (strncmp(mNdofDev->product, "SpaceNavigator", 14) == 0

[opensource-dev] Dumbly stuck on storm-899

2011-05-26 Thread Jonathan Welch
I tried to fix Storm-899 this morning and feel that it is pretty close to being fixed, but I have gotten hung up on a dumb error. If anyone would care to point out how to fix it I would appreciate a chance to improve my c++ skills (and yes, I have tried many different things to fix this but being

[opensource-dev] Repeated entries in settings.xml

2011-05-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
Five months ago I went through a drawn out process to eliminate duplicate and triplicate entries in settings.xml. Today I found two new duplicates. For a few reasons having a clean file is a good idea. Oz has suggested that this file be scanned by a unit test as part of compiling the viewer. If

[opensource-dev] svn.secondlife.com

2011-05-17 Thread Jonathan Welch
Someone on IRC just pointed out that the old source url, http://svn.secondlife.com/ now puts up web pages selling surveillance cameras/systems. Has your web site been hacked or are you now shopping out part of your domain name to third parties? ___ Polic

Re: [opensource-dev] Windows compiling problem

2011-04-20 Thread Jonathan Welch
One thing I discovered is that entries in your local Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.user.props file superseed what you may have set in an environment variable. In my case I was changing INCLUDE but only was able to compile once I had modified the user.props file so it could pick up winres.h under a Samples di

Re: [opensource-dev] autobuild with VS2005

2011-04-18 Thread Jonathan Welch
VS2010 Express is limited to 1 month but once you do the free registration it will no longer expire. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep

Re: [opensource-dev] Windows compiling problem

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Welch
I was finally able to solve my problem. I went back to a pre viewer-development version of autobuild and tried to compile that and got an error about unable to find winres.h (see storm-859). Then it was a matter of adjusting my include list to specify where that file is for vs2010 Express and bot

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