[opensource-dev] Upgrading Autobuild

2019-02-18 Thread Darien Caldwell
So it's been a little while since I tried building the viewer and I seem to be having a problem upgrading autobuild. I execute the command: pip install hg+https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/autobuild-1.1#egg=autobuild and it does everything fine and says all is okay. However, when I do >autobuild

Re: [opensource-dev] How to deal with FMODEX?

2017-02-25 Thread Darien Caldwell
You don't even have to send an email. Just make an account on their site and you automatically have download access to the libraries. That's how I did it. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSourc

Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 78, Issue 26

2017-02-11 Thread Darien Caldwell
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Brent Racobs < flats_fi...@flatsfixedbicycles.com> wrote: > >> This has been the largest waist of Linden Lab's money in development I > have ever had a chance to watch. > the x86 cpu is an ancient devices. > The thought of looking at all the commits on scripts for

Re: [opensource-dev] SL Wiki locked down ?

2016-08-20 Thread Darien Caldwell
It's probably locked down. I can't edit it either it seems. It was editable as of Mid-July, so this must be recent. Probably wiki vandals again. Have to lock it down until they get bored and move on to some other site. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe infor

Re: [opensource-dev] About memory management on macOS 10.12 (Sierra) potentially affecting all viewers

2016-07-09 Thread Darien Caldwell
The only real thing that matters is, does the viewer run on the new O/S or not? If it runs, all this arguing is kind of pointless. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the p

Re: [opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin - a straw man proposal

2016-05-19 Thread Darien Caldwell
I have to agree. It's probably one case where removing an exception isn't worth the effort. Neither would extending the exception into parcel media. Since parcel media is all within the scope of 'browser accessed', it would make sense to keep it within that scope. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:44 PM,

Re: [opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin - a straw man proposal

2016-05-19 Thread Darien Caldwell
I just tried with this public radio stream: http://stream.nonstopplay.co.uk/nsp-64k-mp3 for Prim media, I received the "You have requested a file download" message being discussed in the other thread. But the same URL as parcel stream works. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Callum Prentice (Call

Re: [opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin - a straw man proposal

2016-05-19 Thread Darien Caldwell
I don't know, I only know when Windows 10 came out, I did a clean install of windows 10, and never installed Quicktime, as it at the time wasn't 'compatible' with windows 10. MP3 parcel streams always worked despite having no Quicktime on the system. Maybe this is a fluke, or windows 10 only situa

Re: [opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin - a straw man proposal

2016-05-18 Thread Darien Caldwell
Using CEF for media is what I've been saying since CEF support was announced for the viewer. I think it would be a clean solution. The viewer already runs 3 instances of CEF at startup, using one of those for media wouldn't really add any additional load. The viewer is already using something else

Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

2016-04-20 Thread Darien Caldwell
Actually after more testing, I do see there's one last vestige Quicktime is required for, and that's MP4 video streams. Won't work without it. But MP3 audio streams don't require Quicktime anymore, which was what I was basing my observation on. So I guess we were both right to some extent. If you

Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

2016-04-20 Thread Darien Caldwell
Also just now as an experiment, I removed "media_plugin_quicktime.dll" out of the llplugin directory, and parcel media stll functions. So I can't see how it can be using quicktime at all with A) the plugin removed, and B) no Quicktime installed on the system. ___

Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

2016-04-20 Thread Darien Caldwell
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:49:04 -0700, Darien Caldwell wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > > > > > Yes, it prevents the viewer from reading media files, QuickTime's, &

Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

2016-04-20 Thread Darien Caldwell
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 18:40:02 -0400, Andromeda Quonset wrote: > > > Now I am seeing a lot of messages urging all Windows users to > > uninstall Quicktime, that it will never be updated for Windows, and > > that it hasn't been updated for 1

Re: [opensource-dev] CEF plugin for Linux builds, a recipe

2015-07-09 Thread Darien Caldwell
Does LL even intend to migrate to CEF3 anymore? I noticed all the JIRAs relating to it were recently closed. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-25 Thread Darien Caldwell
d for MP3 and video playback. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Cinder Roxley wrote: > On February 25, 2015 at 6:49:56 AM, Henri Beauchamp (sl...@free.fr) wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:03:29 -0800, Darien Caldwell wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind LL mo

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-24 Thread Darien Caldwell
I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind LL moving all the multimedia to a plugin system was so that 3rd parties could write their own plugins. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a plugin to take over all the functions the old Quicktime plugin does. It's just that nobody has bothered to do it

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-02-22 Thread Darien Caldwell
While the signup does require a birth date (any birth date, hint-hint), the phone Number is optional. On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > Yes, the warning window says what to do, but it was only by chance > that I saw that message, so better to have mention of this necessa

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-01-28 Thread Darien Caldwell
Oh and DXERR is removed as well. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Darien Caldwell wrote: > The windows 8.1 version of the DirectX SDK removes the D3DX* library and > changes XNAMath to DirectXMath, so if you use either from those namespaces, > it's not going to work. I don'

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

2015-01-28 Thread Darien Caldwell
The windows 8.1 version of the DirectX SDK removes the D3DX* library and changes XNAMath to DirectXMath, so if you use either from those namespaces, it's not going to work. I don't know exactly what the viewer is using DirectX for, but as long as it's not using anything from the removed/renamed li

Re: [opensource-dev] Jonathan's attempt to rearrange the graphics preferences

2015-01-24 Thread Darien Caldwell
I saw a picture of this earlier, and only now seeing this thread did I even realize there *was* a scroll bar. And that's the big problem with this. It's far too easy to miss the bar and think the options displayed are all the options available. Even if you can't fit all of the options into a singl

Re: [opensource-dev] Telehubs

2014-08-14 Thread Darien Caldwell
Yep, Telehubs are still an active feature. I used them on my estate to manage traffic ( you can set them up to select arrival points in a round-robin style, so not everyone piles on top of each other). On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Brian McGroarty wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:37 AM, H

Re: [opensource-dev] someone get the blindfold off me please - where in the sourcecode is the spot where a "parcel full" message is created?

2014-08-05 Thread Darien Caldwell
I'd suspect that the viewer simply makes a rez request to the Server, and the server makes the determination it can't be completed, and why. LIkely the server just sends back the error message via some sort of generic callback. In short the message wouldn't be in the viewer. I may be wrong though.

Re: [opensource-dev] Fw: [git] Include Jira Ticket Number in Commits, Please!

2014-07-04 Thread Darien Caldwell
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Introducing-SL-Go-from-OnLive/ba-p/2528009 SL has been on Onlive for awhile now. I guess they have a special fork of the client for running on their servers. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Ricky wrote: > Techwolf trying to get SL on OnLive or so

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer release repository update

2014-06-01 Thread Darien Caldwell
Says it was released on the 30th, which was Friday. Maybe people just wanted to go home for the weekend and thought people could wait a few days for the source. I'm betting it will get added Monday when people go back to work. :-) ___ Policies and (un)sub

Re: [opensource-dev] Creating my own login page

2014-01-24 Thread Darien Caldwell
That's not my experience, I specifically use JQuery with LL's built in browser, and it works fine, almost. :) I do use my own custom Ajax code because I have had problems with JQuery's Ajax and LL's browser. But overall most of JQuery works fine in Webkit. It's best to use a Webkit based browser

Re: [opensource-dev] sunshine external merge

2013-10-23 Thread Darien Caldwell
I'm curious what the purpose would be, since client side baking is no longer usable? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Nicky Perian wrote: > https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/sunshine-external-client > > Repository has the changesets that disabled client side baking backed out. > There are still prob

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Darien Caldwell
I would say that's probably the Intent. If you're trying to pry details out of LL employees, with full knowledge you never intend to actually contribute the result, why should LL assist you in that? However, if you do intend to contribute, discussing the contribution with the understanding the dis

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Darien Caldwell
Or to put in simpler terms, If you don't want to give LL an idea, then absolutely, do not talk to them about it. Which you would think would be common sense. :) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Op

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Darien Caldwell
Well, It certainly is interesting. The gist seems to be, LL becomes a full co-owner of the contribution, including owning half of any copyright or patent claims to any submitted contribution. This is sensible, as any contribution becomes a core part of LL's business. I do like that LL now takes up

Re: [opensource-dev] grid code exploited

2013-10-01 Thread Darien Caldwell
Went to see, it's just a standard griefer attack of noisy boxes rezzed all over the sim. Just AR the boxes and it will get cleaned up. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 02:09:58 -0500 > Flats Fixed wrote: > > > seems your staff OZ has exploited your closed

Re: [opensource-dev] Scripted attachment inspection

2013-09-02 Thread Darien Caldwell
What you might have seen is someone looking at their own script usage. If you go to About Land, and click "Script Info" in the lower Left corner, you can then go to the "My Avatar" tab and see how much script memory is used for every attachment you wear. That's the only way to get a comprehensive l

Re: [opensource-dev] ThrottleBandwidthKBPS - kilobit per second or kiloBYTE per second?

2013-07-30 Thread Darien Caldwell
Problem with your example is, you assume the % of bandwidth is constant. If downloading data was a constant 40% or 4%, I would agree. But SL is a very bursty service. Once you have the data for the scene, it uses very, very little bandwidth at all. So all of that bandwidth is not being utilized con

Re: [opensource-dev] ThrottleBandwidthKBPS - kilobit per second or kiloBYTE per second?

2013-07-26 Thread Darien Caldwell
, Argent wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2013 12:32 PM, "Darien Caldwell" > wrote: > > So basically while this system is probably beneficial to those with bad > internet connections, it's rather punitive to those who have excellent, > wide pipe connections. The only way

Re: [opensource-dev] ThrottleBandwidthKBPS - kilobit per second or kiloBYTE per second?

2013-07-26 Thread Darien Caldwell
There has to be some other throttle, because ThrottlebandwidthKBPS seems to correspond to what you set your bandwidth to in preferences (max 10,000 with LL's viewer). However, This is being capped by the servers: 2013-07-26T16:46:00Z INFO: LLViewerThrottleGroup::sendToSim: Sending throttle settin

Re: [opensource-dev] new viewer

2013-07-23 Thread Darien Caldwell
You'll just appear grey to others, and everyone you meet will be grey to you. AFAIK everything else will continue to work as it does now. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read

Re: [opensource-dev] llTextBox Propogation

2013-06-12 Thread Darien Caldwell
Well, given Oz's recent revelation that there's over 1600 different version of the SL client logging in daily, sure, it's possible someone is still using a client that doesn't support llTextBox(). Does every major TPV that still updates their client have it? Yes. So I wouldn't let edge cases stop

Re: [opensource-dev] development viewer

2013-05-09 Thread Darien Caldwell
Per the new release process, I don't think there will be any more. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Tools-and-Technology/A-New-Process-for-Viewer-Releases/ba-p/1990547 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Tammy Nowotny wrote: > Are there going to be more versions of the Second Life Development > V

Re: [opensource-dev] Errors while building SL viewer

2013-05-01 Thread Darien Caldwell
I had to do this, you can probably use these commits to get the bulk of the HACD code: https://bitbucket.org/daricaldwell/viewer-storm-1716-convexdecomp/commits/61c4e4e1e6367abeca98aed4cd93c3066e089d87 https://bitbucket.org/daricaldwell/viewer-storm-1716-convexdecomp/commits/399ba104ad126d0fd1b11c

Re: [opensource-dev] fw: hey

2013-04-30 Thread Darien Caldwell
Beware the URL is a malicious Trojan. don't click it. and if you have, scan your system and probably should apologize to everyone in your address book, as they probably now got one sent from you. ;p On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Hitomi Tiponi wrote: > URL REMOVED >

Re: [opensource-dev] HTTP connection changes heading to Aditi in the near future

2013-03-14 Thread Darien Caldwell
Are these regions on the Main grid or Beta grid? I can find MeshTest2 on both grids, but the server version is 13.03.04.271238, so I'm not clear that this is the correct server version. Also TextureTest2 on beta seems to be closed off. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Monty Brandenberg wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] HTTP connection changes heading to Aditi in the near future

2013-03-14 Thread Darien Caldwell
c.) all get impacted. > > Ricky > Cron Stardust > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Darien Caldwell < > darien.caldw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm curious how a script would be expected to recover from a 'flurry of >> 502/503' errors? If

Re: [opensource-dev] HTTP connection changes heading to Aditi in the near future

2013-03-14 Thread Darien Caldwell
I'm curious how a script would be expected to recover from a 'flurry of 502/503' errors? If my HTTP enabled object is expecting to communicate with my external-to-SL server, and instead receives an 503 error, all I could see doing is to retry. So is hammering the server with retries really going to

Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-03-01 Thread Darien Caldwell
d alpha masks, tattoos, avatar physics, etc. The only > change should be a new parameter (id=11001) in the shape's parameter block. > This does not represent a major revision to the wearable or avatar format. > > -Nyx > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Darien Caldw

Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-03-01 Thread Darien Caldwell
Well, This is an interesting development. I only understood SSB to be handling the baking of textures. But it's centralizing the avatar's shape too? Or why does a change in height need to be routed through the back-end? Adding a new slider to the Avatar appearance is kind of unprecedented. Will LL

Re: [opensource-dev] DirectX SDK update: should we use it ?

2013-03-01 Thread Darien Caldwell
This is being offered to all Windows 7 Users, not just developers. Reading deeper here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/windows/apps/jj863687.aspx It's mostly backporting new features from Windows 8 to Windows 7. That's why they say you'll need the newer SDK, to take advantage of those new feat

Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Darien Caldwell
Yes, this was brought up to Nyx and Oz at Oz's last User Group meeting, by inusaito.kanya They were supposed to file a bug under Sunshine, but probably good to have someone else do it as well, in case they didn't. I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them) but I gave it my vote regar

Re: [opensource-dev] Found long-standing prim rotation bug: BUG-885

2012-11-25 Thread Darien Caldwell
it rotates > smoothly (expected) > Observe that if you drag off the line - as if snapping was enabled and you > wished to snap - and then again in the direction of the line that it will > snap. (not expected) > > Hope that helps clarify > > > Ps. Sorry for the dup