Re: [opensource-dev] Transcript for today's brown-bag, 4/20 noon PDT

Thanks Latha. Latha++ On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Brent Tubbs wrote: > Thank you Latha! Your work is much appreciated. > > -- Jeroen Frans Virtual World Technology Specialist. VesuviusGroup.com SL: Frans Charming ___ Policies and (un)subscribe

[opensource-dev] reb menu bar

hi there i have soo much trouble is red menu bar is always in the way, is there code that tell be normal? instead of red bar but theme ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read

Re: [opensource-dev] group limit

On 04/20/2010 11:00 PM, Andrew Simpson wrote: > can i ask anyone tell me where inside hard code group limition on 1.23.5 > i am not goin if i asked? because i am rebuilding the viewer for my grid > indra/llcommon/indra_constants.h, line 254

Re: [opensource-dev] texture problem on avatars

Chang Liu wrote: > Hi, all, when we connect a modified version of Second Life Client > Viewer to OpenSim, we notice that from time to time, textures on > avatars may turn into mosaic and hollow like what's shown in the > attached screenshots. Has anyone seen this before? Any clues as to > wha

[opensource-dev] group limit

hello, can i ask anyone tell me where inside hard code group limition on 1.23.5 i am not goin if i asked? because i am rebuilding the viewer for my grid ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource

Re: [opensource-dev] Transcript for today's brown-bag, 4/20 noon PDT

Thank you Latha! Your work is much appreciated. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Latha Serevi wrote: > Transcript of today's chat, including my text-chat paraphrasing of most > voice comments: > > https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/AW_Groupies/Chat_Logs/JoeLindenTPVBrownbag-2010-04-20 > > Latha >

[opensource-dev] Transcript for today's brown-bag, 4/20 noon PDT

Transcript of today's chat, including my text-chat paraphrasing of most voice comments: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/AW_Groupies/Chat_Logs/JoeLindenTPVBrownbag-2010-04-20 Latha ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

I think gigs meant it's not a ruling in the sense of something legally binding like a court ruling would be, it's not even really legal advice. Anyway, the current amended policy seems much more reasonable and i'd think the FSF would agree. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Robert Martin wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Gigs wrote: > Ron Festa wrote: >> Not really. If you're a user basically that means you have to stop using >> that viewer if you want to continue access. If you are a developer it >> means you have to remove the ability to connect to SL. Again as per the >> FSF rul

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

Ron Festa wrote: > Not really. If you're a user basically that means you have to stop using > that viewer if you want to continue access. If you are a developer it > means you have to remove the ability to connect to SL. Again as per the > FSF ruling on this, they're restricting the service not

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

I just noticed that the email licens...@fsf.org is being replied to. Guys please remove that email address from your ReplyToAll list to avoid spamming the FSF. Ron Festa Virtual Worlds Admin Division of Continuing Studies at Rutgers University PGP key: http://bit.ly/b1ZyhY Phone: 732-474-8583 On

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:51:04 -0400 Gigs wrote: > I don't think Brett fully considered the implications of: > > "You acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop using or > distributing a Third-Party Viewer for accessing Second Life if we > determine that there is a violation." > > Wh

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

As Joe explained in the brown bag currently going on at the time of this writing, you'd be required to end distributing the version that connects to SL. In other words you will be required to remove support for SL. Ron Festa Virtual Worlds Admin Division of Continuing Studies at Rutgers University

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

I don't think Brett fully considered the implications of: "You acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop using or distributing a Third-Party Viewer for accessing Second Life if we determine that there is a violation." Which is clearly in conflict with the GPL. Ron Festa wrote: > Si

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

On 04/20/2010 03:41 PM, Jonathan Irvin wrote: "4. You assume all risks, expenses, and defects of any Third-Party Viewers that you use. Linden Lab shall not be responsible or liable for any Third-Party Viewers." That sure sounds like what you all have been wanting. The risk is on the user, no

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

"4. You assume all risks, expenses, and defects of any Third-Party Viewers that you use. Linden Lab shall not be responsible or liable for any Third-Party Viewers." That sure sounds like what you all have been wanting. The risk is on the user, not so much the developer. Jonathan Irvin Cell: +1-3

[opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

Since people wanted to see it here it is right from the Free Software Foundation. Ron Festa Virtual Worlds Admin Division of Continuing Studies at Rutgers University PGP key: http://bit.ly/b1ZyhY Phone: 732-474-8583 -- Forwarded message -- From: Brett Smith via RT Date: Tue, Apr

[opensource-dev] trying to get a mod working

I'm working on moding the the lllogchat.ccp to add a datestamp to the file name but im having dificuilitie with getting it to work roght of fail to compile. The following erros are from my latest compile: 94>lllogchat.cpp 94>lllocationinputctrl.cpp 94>..\..\newview\lllogchat.cpp(196) : error

[opensource-dev] IRC Bridge for today's brown-bag, 4/20 noon PDT

I'll relay text chat again to irc://irc.quickfox.net/groupies . Not sure if Robin will be relaying to EFNet channel #brownbag . We'll transcribe voice to text as feasible. Latha ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.sec

[opensource-dev] test on SG2

i looked for somethings in debug settings (from advanced menu) without success is there a way to: 1) enable/disable hovertext on whole screen 2) enable/disable SLPlugin (totally, if audio and multimedia turned off one SLPlugin session lunched anyway) any hint? __

Re: [opensource-dev] ParcelAccessListReply packets have no reliable end of list indication?

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2010-04-19, at 19:42, Joshua Bell wrote: >> >> That's a completely different issue. The lower level transport >> protocol guarantees reliable delivery of certain types of messages - >> packets are ack'd and resent if missed. > > 1. Ar

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Joe Linden wrote: > Boy, > > There was nothing quiet, or "in the background" about it, believe me.  This > update is the topic of conversation at the noon PDT brown bag I'm hosting > today.  The changes were pushed live ahead of the meeting, so there would be > no

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

There have been numerous times since the new TOS came out that i've wanted to go inworld and have refused to do so for fear of liability under this policy. Thank you for fixing it, now I might be able to play with the new plugins API without fear. With those changes, this is a policy that personal

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

Thanks Joe, I was not aware that there is an ongoing discussion. Which would be 3am in the middle of the night for me anyway. But thumbs up for the initiative. Boy - Original Message - From: Joe Linden To: Boy Lane Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Sent: Tuesday, Apr

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

Agreed, this is a major improvement. Thanks, Joe. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Latif Khalifa wrote: > I second that Gigs, very positive changes indeed. > > My thanks to Joe for making this happen. > > Latif > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Gigs wrote: > > These look like positive cha

Re: [opensource-dev] ParcelAccessListReply packets have no reliable end of list indication?

On 2010-04-19, at 19:42, Joshua Bell wrote: > That's a completely different issue. The lower level transport > protocol guarantees reliable delivery of certain types of messages - > packets are ack'd and resent if missed. 1. Are these messages actually being handled by that mechanism? 2. I have s

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

I second that Gigs, very positive changes indeed. My thanks to Joe for making this happen. Latif On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Gigs wrote: > These look like positive changes that address some of the concerns. > > Thank you for your efforts Joe. > > Joe Linden wrote: >> Boy, >> >> There was

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

These look like positive changes that address some of the concerns. Thank you for your efforts Joe. Joe Linden wrote: > Boy, > > There was nothing quiet, or "in the background" about it, believe me. > This update is the topic of conversation at the noon PDT brown bag I'm > hosting today. The

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

Boy, There was nothing quiet, or "in the background" about it, believe me. This update is the topic of conversation at the noon PDT brown bag I'm hosting today. The changes were pushed live ahead of the meeting, so there would be no question they are incorporated in to the TPV and TOS, both of w

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

Interesting changes, worthy of some thoughtful consideration. Have to run this one back past the lawyers and see what they say. On 20/04/2010 11:45 PM, Boy Lane wrote: > As this did not make it into the mailing list yet but is rather important, > LL changed the TPV policy again, quiet, in the back

[opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

As this did not make it into the mailing list yet but is rather important, LL changed the TPV policy again, quiet, in the background. I don't know how this affects the legal validity of that document people agreed by clickwrapping since the new ToS popup, I just want to make you aware of that. R

Re: [opensource-dev] [vwrap] "What's *not* in VWRAP" - presentation in SL April 20 @ 9:30am Pacific

From VWRAP list: David W Levine wrote: > > http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/ThorneBridgeTown/162/134/22 > > That's the ThorneBridgeTown IBM Research sim, if you want a teleport > offer, tap Zha Ewry in world sometime around or after 9:20 PDT > > > > From: Joshua Bell > To: vw..