Michael wrote in part:
> Is a transcript of this posted anywhere for those of us who could not
> attend?
I see someone has already posted a link to the full chat text transcript on
the wiki.
Gareth Nelson was kind enough to provide the voice recording of the meeting,
which can be found here:
Hi Kitty,
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Kitty wrote:
> Found a likely cause...
>
> Viewer 2.0 (and Snowglobe) isn't requesting a gzipped response from the
> login server which causes the login reply to take much, much longer to
> download than it does with 1.23.
>
> Is there any chance someone
For those watching without the benefit of a transcript or the actual words I
said in the meeting yesterday, here was the rest of that quote: "* **we've
had a lot of internal debate around cost/benefit of OS **... and we're fully
committed to redoubling our commitment to make this a successful prog
And yet, it does restrict GPL distribution rights. We've been over this
already. And I'd like to see where the FSF OKed it, the only thing I
can turn up on Google is Richard Stallman not being too happy about it.
I already changed the viewer I used to be working on to Luna, but both
the GPL inco
I suggest you read up on how copyright law in the US actually works.
You seem to be under the impression that the changes in 1989 when the
US implemented most of the Berne Convention never happened.
I'm not commenting on the validity of this unsupported notecard, just
noting that you're mist
I decided to read the transcript and it did not address any of my
concerns.
[12:21][Voice Transcript] Joe Linden: we've ha a lot of internal debate
around cost/benefit of OS
^ That was all I needed to hear. Debate's effectively over.
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 09:27 -0700, Joe Linden wrote:
> Rob,
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:49:03 -0700
"Philippe (Merov) Bossut" wrote:
> Linux:
> http://secondlife.com/developers/opensource/downloads/2010/trunk/3318/Snowglobe-i686-2.0.0.3318.tar.bz2
don't start...
2010-04-14T17:02:57Z INFO: LLError::NoClassInfo::createContext:
Stencil Bits 8 2010-04-14T17:02:5
On 04/14/2010 06:35 PM, Michael Dickson wrote:
> Is a transcript of this posted anywhere for those of us who could not
> attend?
>
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/AW_Groupies/Chat_Logs/JoeLindenTPVBrownbag-2010-04-13
(Thanks Latha!)
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Joe,
have a beer ;)
or would you rather have a gallon of WD40? ;)
Am Mittwoch 14 April 2010 schrieb Joe Linden:
> Rob,
>
> I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
>
> -- Joe
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson
wrote:
> > It's already reached a point where LL has told
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 16:27 +, Joe Linden wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
>
> -- Joe
Is a transcript of this posted anywhere for those of us who could not
attend?
Thanks!
Mike
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Joe, is there a transcript/voice recording of the meeting available?
On Apr 14, 2010 12:27 PM, "Joe Linden" wrote:
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson
wrote:
>
> It's already...
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On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 09:27 -0700, Joe Linden wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
>
> -- Joe
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson
> wrote:
> It's already reached a point where LL ha
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson wrote:
> It's already reached a point where LL has told us, to our faces, that
> they are not going to change the policy, meaning our opinion doesn't
> mean diddly to them. There's no use co
It's already reached a point where LL has told us, to our faces, that
they are not going to change the policy, meaning our opinion doesn't
mean diddly to them. There's no use continuing to discussion, just as
there's no use continuing TPV development.
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 07:52 -0500, Jonathan
Another point: A copyright means you can't copy the work. You are
allowed to come up with the same idea yourself and arrive at a simiar
result. It requires a patent to protect against that.
Furthermore, DMCA applies only when the original work is *digitally*
copied. It does *NOT* apply to a for
FYI, Whoever wrote this is ignorant of US copyright and trademark law.
In the US (and most countries), you have an implicit copyright
whenver you render an original work in any fixed medium. I.e., if you
sing a song you made up, no implicit copyright, but if you record it
or write it down, you do
Lance Corrimal wrote:
> ... is that guy out of his mind?
Yes. See notes below.
> You are reading this because you were listed in a lawsuit by Belial
> Foulsbane and Scarlett Vielle. Somehow you are a victim of his False
> DMCA claims, and his ongoing effort to manipulate LL into killing off
>
I don't know the details on this, however it's definitely off topic
for this list.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Lance Corrimal
wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> just got this notecard inworld:
>
> "Hello.
>
> You are reading this because you were listed in a lawsuit by Belial Foulsbane
> and Scarlett Vi
Compare this list to here:
http://lists.ironpython.com/pipermail/users-ironpython.com
Although stated as a combined user/dev list and open to related DLR/CLR
discussion...: http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
... the signal to noise, on that mail-list, remains much more
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Ron Festa wrote:
> I feel your frustration, however, this is the opensource-dev mailing list
> not the snowglobe-dev mailing list. Both SnowGlobe and TPV's are open source
> viewers based on Linden Lab's mainline viewer the only difference is
> Snowglobe is distrib
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 07:52:02AM -0500, Jonathan Irvin wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern:
>
> I'm requesting Linden Lab's response to this inquiry due to the recent
> influx of new topic related...or should I say unrelated to the development
> of the SnowGlobe viewer. Lately, when I open my email
the guy can kiss his "product" good bye anyways:
http://is.gd/bsmy5
next emerald release diasables that "speedrezzing hack", so all he gets from
his dmca spoof is loads of abuse reports for selling defective products.
Am Mittwoch, 14. April 2010 15:31:11 schrieb Gareth Nelson:
> I think the poi
I think the point was that SL has a lot of users with trigger-happy lawyers
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Ambrosia wrote:
>> and what henri has is the same feature in a different implementation (100%
>> viewer internally), so it's not as if you could use emerald and something
>> sold
>> or gi
I feel your frustration, however, this is the *opensource-dev* mailing list
*not* the *snowglobe-dev* mailing list. Both SnowGlobe and TPV's are open
source viewers based on Linden Lab's mainline viewer the only difference is
Snowglobe is distributed by LL. Discussion on policies that effect open
s
+1
I already trashed a few attempts to write an e-mail to try to say what
you have.
Jonathan Irvin wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern:
>
> I'm requesting Linden Lab's response to this inquiry due to the recent
> influx of new topic related...or should I say unrelated to the
> development of the
> and what henri has is the same feature in a different implementation (100%
> viewer internally), so it's not as if you could use emerald and something sold
> or given away for free by henri INSTEAD of this guys script.
> THIS IS NOT WORTH ANY KIND OF MONEY (since its sort of the whole point
> of
To Whom It May Concern:
I'm requesting Linden Lab's response to this inquiry due to the recent
influx of new topic related...or should I say unrelated to the development
of the SnowGlobe viewer. Lately, when I open my email, I get 5-10 different
topics and responses daily to the recent changes fo
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Ambrosia wrote:
> He's supposedly going after rival products.
>
and the big problem is how he is defining "rival products" hes
claiming copyright on any gesture In the form of
dd 0
wait 1
dd 4
wait 1
dd 8
wait 1
..
dd 64 (or whatever the set normal draw distance
Am Mittwoch, 14. April 2010 14:39:26 schrieb Ambrosia:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 14:00, Carlo Wood wrote:
> > This guy really filed a lawsuit.
> >
> > Such people exist, ... one of the reasons I REALLY don't want to work
> > on a SL viewer when there is a TOS that says I'm responsible and
> > lia
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 14:00, Carlo Wood wrote:
> This guy really filed a lawsuit.
>
> Such people exist, ... one of the reasons I REALLY don't want to work
> on a SL viewer when there is a TOS that says I'm responsible and
> liable for any damages done as a result of using that viewer.
>
The la
This guy really filed a lawsuit.
Such people exist, ... one of the reasons I REALLY don't want to work
on a SL viewer when there is a TOS that says I'm responsible and
liable for any damages done as a result of using that viewer.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:28:55AM +0200, Lance Corrimal wrote:
> H
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 02:30:24PM -0400, Robert Martin wrote:
> Dusting off an old statement
>
> The 3PVp will be a semi joke until LL decides to put up a compile farm
> and begin creating "signed builds". Even not using proxies and other
> cloaking all somebody has to do is get the source for a
I'm aware of the speed-rez stuff, because it's been discussed numerous
times over the last five years. The earliest mention I can recall off
the top of my head is a suggestion from Phoenix back in early 06.
I've already read the complaint and docs and I'm working on an article
on it.
On 14/04/201
Lance, hey just FYI man...This is something you want to contact Linden Labs
directly about, not post it to this mailing list.
That being said, let me share with you a piece of wisdom from being in SL
for 5 years. When you've seen it once, you've seen it a million times.
People just like to targe
Hey all,
just got this notecard inworld:
"Hello.
You are reading this because you were listed in a lawsuit by Belial Foulsbane
and Scarlett Vielle.
Somehow you are a victim of his False DMCA claims, and his ongoing effort to
manipulate LL into killing off his competition for the "Emerald Sp
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