Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

Indeed. You should see how far behind the scripting language is. Here is a question I've always wondered: is LSL and/or Linden Scripting Language a trademark? It isn't listed in the trademark page. Andro At 12:49 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote: >I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

You tried one grid out of...20? Maybe more? Not really a fair benchmark. :P They're all different, and some are better than others. My personal new home is InWorldz. Reaction Grid performs well as well. OSGrid has the benefit of self-hosting, but that's a problem as well, as you saw. Many grids

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

*plays a tiny violin* Have a great weekend :) 2010/4/4 Dale Mahalko > I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for the first time > this weekend. Overall the experience was plain awful, on a 10 megabit > internet connection and GTX 285 1024meg > > > Oddly, when giving the SL client th

[opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for the first time this weekend. Overall the experience was plain awful, on a 10 megabit internet connection and GTX 285 1024meg Oddly, when giving the SL client the OSgrid URL from the command line, the client login page tells me that the Second

[opensource-dev] Compressed Object Updates.

Hello All, When will server start sending ObjectUpdateCompressed messages? Does client need to send any request message? Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Chandra K Kuchi ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlif

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV - Nope

I'd just like to point out to *everyone* that I truly admire the spirit you all have towards this project and SL in general. Personally, I've stuck with SL this long just because I've always found it as a medium of experimentation and exploration of different programming ideals and methods. I can

[opensource-dev] SNOW-375 Binary Package Available

This is a build of Snowglobe with SNOW-375 patch applied. This patch provides a HTTP/REST interface to control and automate the Snowglobe viewer. Client-side scripts and programs can then add features like accessibility functions, automated regression tests, detached editors, separate chat wind

Re: [opensource-dev] Can we, open source devs, still support Snowglobe? was: Can we be more productive, please?

On Friday 02 April 2010 16:36:45 Aleric Inglewood wrote: > Who of the active contributors (speak up if I missed you) are willing to > make a stand and stop at least developing for snowglobe, unless we > get a clear, understandable and official explanation what kind of legal > liability TPV devs ar

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV - Nope

Thanks Nicholaz for your hardwork. I used your viewer a lot to bypass issues I had then with the standard viewer. I think Linden Lab was s lucky to have had such a vibrant community in place. From my point of view, I see a slow erosion of veteran well known content creators and client developer

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV - Nope

This is a sad day. I remember the times when you were indeed the most prolific contributor, when your own third-party viewer was the toast of SL, and the SL viewer has benefited greatly from your work. I think everyone can thank you for that (and everyone has !). And I'd like to thank you for help

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV - Nope

While I didn't know you personally, it takes a lot for someone to have your opinions, come to your conclusions, and then cancel your accounts. Sad to see another oldbie go. Jonathan Irvin On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 08:51, Nicholaz Beresford wrote: > > Hi All! > > Since the TPV and new TOS seems to

Re: [opensource-dev] PulseAudio requirement in windows question; Technical issue squeezed between legal noise.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Nicky Perian wrote: > Same issue as Latif. > > On windows it fails with: > > CMake Error at media_plugins/webkit/CMakeLists.txt:17 (include): > include could not find load file: > > PulseAudio > > > Is PulseAudio r

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

Thanks for the help all, I will look into this later >.> Jonathan Irvin ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileg

Re: [opensource-dev] Can you legally agree to incomprehensible conditions

Excellent summary by Rob. I was going to write a follow up but Rob's post was pretty complete. The short of it is that because of the contributor agreements LL owns the copyright on all contributions including their own and can use them pretty much how they see fit, including in commercial code th

Re: [opensource-dev] Can you legally agree to incomprehensible conditions

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Carlo Wood wrote: > Ok, IANAL as well, but here's what I understood (somewhere in the past): > > LL is a single legal entity, "distributing" sources internally is > not considered to be distribution and using binaries on multiple > PC's within the company is also n

[opensource-dev] TPV - Nope

Hi All! Since the TPV and new TOS seems to be in effect now, I'd like to finally comment on it too. For those of you who don't know me, I'm the person who started the first thrird party viewer (in fact I made the original Wiki page http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Alternate_viewers

[opensource-dev] PulseAudio requirement in windows question; Technical issue squeezed between legal noise.

Same issue as Latif. On windows it fails with: CMake Error at media_plugins/webkit/CMakeLists.txt:17 (include): include could not find load file: PulseAudio Is PulseAudio required for a windows build? __

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

On 04/03/2010 02:14 PM, Jonathan Irvin wrote: > Do we have an effective way of compiling the SnowGlobe viewer in Linux > with *.sh script? in debian? A quick step-by-step instruction can be found at Compiling and Patching Snowglobe (Linux)

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Jonathan Irvin wrote: > Do we have an effective way of compiling the SnowGlobe viewer in Linux with > *.sh script? in debian? > Normally yes, my debian source packages will build the snowglobe viewer using the standard debian tools, but currently this is only worki

Re: [opensource-dev] Can you legally agree to incomprehensible conditions

Ok, IANAL as well, but here's what I understood (somewhere in the past): LL is a single legal entity, "distributing" sources internally is not considered to be distribution and using binaries on multiple PC's within the company is also not considered distribution (it doesn't change owner). Theref

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

Do we have an effective way of compiling the SnowGlobe viewer in Linux with *.sh script? in debian? Jonathan Irvin ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before p

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

Hi, On windows it fails with: CMake Error at media_plugins/webkit/CMakeLists.txt:17 (include): include could not find load file: PulseAudio When I kill PulseAudio from cmake it fails with: CMake Error in newview/CMakeLists.txt: Cannot find source file "llpopupview.cpp". Tried extensio

Re: [opensource-dev] Can you legally agree to incomprehensible conditions

Glen Canaday wrote: > anyone who is known to have seen the LL server code. They can't be sure > there's no LL-proprietary licensing stuff going on. See this: > http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Contributions_Policy > > ... all of which I can completely understand. > No, the not reading viewer code