On 4/8/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
However, Open Solaris needs more mindshare. Adding KDE
will at the very least only help in that regard.
I have this acqaintance who got put off by GNOME on
Nexenta and who asked me whether there was some other
desktop availabl
On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 07:42 +0800, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote:
> > I'm not sure how GNOME depends on gcc or
> > glibc...what am I missing?
>
> Since GNOME is a GNU project, I was under the
> impression that the GNOME libraries were highly
> dependent on gcc and glibc extensions/behaviour.
--- Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Exactly, and what is the point of Solaris if it
> is
> > > only to make it
> > > "just like GNU/Linux"? That's what Nexenta is
> for ;)
> >
> > Yup. Which is why I am asking t
On 07/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly, and what is the point of Solaris if it is
> only to make it
> "just like GNU/Linux"? That's what Nexenta is for ;)
Yup. Which is why I am asking that there be no gcc +
gnome (okay maybe gnome is stretching it given th
> Exactly, and what is the point of Solaris if it is
> only to make it
> "just like GNU/Linux"? That's what Nexenta is for ;)
Yup. Which is why I am asking that there be no gcc +
gnome (okay maybe gnome is stretching it given that
Sun is behind the GNOME band wagon) entrenchment in
nevada. A stan
On 06/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you tried the Linux branded zones? You can run
> unmodified Linux
> binaries on Solaris.
What is the point of Solaris if it is only to run
Linux binaries?
Exactly, and what is the point of Solaris if it is only to make
> Personally, the differences in user facing packages
> isn't a major issue
> to me. There are some options missing that I
> normally use in grep and
> tail, but overall I can work around them. The
> biggest issue in a gnu
> userland for me is the gnu toolchain. Time after
> time, I've tried to
> Have you tried the Linux branded zones? You can run
> unmodified Linux
> binaries on Solaris.
What is the point of Solaris if it is only to run
Linux binaries?
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Thomas Rampelberg wrote:
userland for me is the gnu toolchain. Time after time, I've tried to
run a normal linux app on solaris and hit a major wall, having to
change a makefile, code itself normally, it's such a pain that I
give up and go back to linux where it was w
Thomas Rampelberg wrote:
userland for me is the gnu toolchain. Time after time, I've tried to run
a normal linux app on solaris and hit a major wall, having to change a
makefile, code itself normally, it's such a pain that I give up and
go back to linux where it was working in the beginni
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote:
Its a question of preference. Solaris is a far
superior OS in the
kernel etc. Userland it just isn't. Nexenta is a
really nice bridge
between the two. Frankly, if you need to get hot
around the collar
about this issue its alright.
What is so great about g
> Its a question of preference. Solaris is a far
> superior OS in the
> kernel etc. Userland it just isn't. Nexenta is a
> really nice bridge
> between the two. Frankly, if you need to get hot
> around the collar
> about this issue its alright.
What is so great about gnu userland? I come from Lin
Hi there,
Its a question of preference.
Agreed.
Solaris is a far superior OS in the
kernel etc. Userland it just isn't. Nexenta is a really nice bridge
between the two. Frankly, if you need to get hot around the collar
about this issue its alright.
And here we have to agree to disagree, veh
On 04/04/07, Jason J. W. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Its a question of preference. Solaris is a far superior OS in the
kernel etc. Userland it just isn't. Nexenta is a really nice bridge
between the two. Frankly, if you need to get hot around the collar
about this issue its alright.
I t
Hi there,
Its a question of preference. Solaris is a far superior OS in the
kernel etc. Userland it just isn't. Nexenta is a really nice bridge
between the two. Frankly, if you need to get hot around the collar
about this issue its alright.
Best Regards,
Jason
On 4/2/07, a b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Solaris is a good OS. Unfortunately, its the last remaining SysV worth
learning. HP-UX is dead, as is IRIXmy Octane2 at home not
withstanding. Let's not make this a "the mountain has to come to
Mohammed" thing. The question is whether or not Solaris wants greater
mind share...that is the Linux
On 4/2/07, Jason J. W. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Solaris is a good OS. Unfortunately, its the last remaining SysV worth
learning. HP-UX is dead, as is IRIXmy Octane2 at home not
withstanding. Let's not make this a "the mountain has to come to
Mohammed" thing. The question is whether
Solaris is a good OS. Unfortunately, its the last remaining SysV worth
learning. HP-UX is dead, as is IRIXmy Octane2 at home not
withstanding. Let's not make this a "the mountain has to come to
Mohammed" thing. The question is whether or not Solaris wants greater
mind share...that is the Linux
> It gives the guys here hope that Solaris will move
> faster to adopt
> things like /usr/gnu, and generally adopt the
> usability improvements
> Linux has had. While there are pockets of folks that
> seem to admit the
> usability gap between Linux and Solaris
> toolchains...there seem to be
> a lo
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:36 -0300, Javier O. Augusto wrote:
> MC wrote:
> > Sometimes choice is bad.
> erm, when?
Well, to put it most simply: when the chooser doesn't take
responsibility for the choices they make. Something most of us in the
IT industry are familiar with, I'd think... especial
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 13:14 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
> (FWIW, personally, I consider GNOME to have very little in the way of
> eye-candy... I still think it looks like something out of the mid-90's
> most of the time!)
(Just in case I offend any of our visual designers, I should point out
that'
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 21:22 -0700, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
> So aside from more eye candy, I really don't see what either
> KDE or GNOME do that CDE doesn't. Yeah, I know that GNOME is the
> chosen direction, and maybe one or the other of the newer desktops
> were needed to appeal to younger a
Javier O. Augusto wrote:
MC wrote:
[..]
Sometimes choice is bad.
erm, when?
When the number of choices is overwhelming and don't differ
in user-discernible ways, the multitude of choices becomes
an overwhelming barrier to entry/use.
Just because it can be configured does not mean that I
MC wrote:
> [..]
> Sometimes choice is bad.
>
erm, when?
two bottles of poisoned water doesn't count! ;-)
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> So aside from more eye candy, I really
> don't see what either
> KDE or GNOME do that CDE doesn't.
http://www.gnomefiles.org/
http://www.kde-apps.org/
Aren't those some answers to that question? :)
IMHO the best thing an operating system such as Solaris can do is pick an
appropriate UI solut
On 27/03/07, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
have more potential, I think KDE is a lot slicker and faster
feeling right now; and from what little I've seen of either, the
apps typically with KDE seem more to my liking as well. But on
We can argue preference all day, but in the e
> You seem to not like GNOME very much or the most
> capable open source
> browser we have available for the platform. It might
> be better if you
> proposed alternatives.
I can't speak for him, but while I think GNOME _may_
have more potential, I think KDE is a lot slicker and faster
feeling rig
> Another thing that I find almost annoying is the use
> of "-switch"
> (find(1) and dd(1M) are the most obvious examples
> that come to mind).
> Should that be read as "-switch" or "-s -w -i -t -c
> -h"? POSIX
> (and I) say the latter.
And I would agree with both you and POSIX. "-switch" would b
> Now, y'all boys realize what this leads to. Simon
> joining MSFT. Don't make me say it! Wait, I just said it... Owh.
>
> -Artem.
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OMG it totally makes sense now!
Thi
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