Re: [osol-discuss] slightly odd behavior with snv_69 and a v40z

2007-08-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
I often respond to myself ... oh well .. here goes : the odd messages were this : Aug 2 00:56:00 saturn genunix: [ID 540533 kern.notice] ^MSunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_69 64-bit Aug 2 00:56:00 saturn genunix: [ID 943907 kern.notice] Copyright 1983-2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights rese

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/2/07, Korey Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let us, for the purpose of making a point, assume > > that you are 100% correct in your statements. > > > > Following from those, how will persons you write > > about be able to fix something they know nothing > > about and aren't able/willin

Re: [osol-discuss] Run Vb Application Sun Solaris 10

2007-08-01 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 22:18 -0700, Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote: > > Problem : I want to Run Vb Application and MS > > Access as a backend on Sun Solaris 10. I want to make > > solaris system is operating system and other window > > based system Access Application and database from > > that Solaris Sys

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Korey Peters
> Let us, for the purpose of making a point, assume > that you are 100% correct in your statements. > > Following from those, how will persons you write > about be able to fix something they know nothing > about and aren't able/willing to learn it? > > How can any person fix something if they do

Re: [osol-discuss] Run Vb Application Sun Solaris 10

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/2/07, Akhilesh Mritunjai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Problem : I want to Run Vb Application and MS > > Access as a backend on Sun Solaris 10. I want to make > > solaris system is operating system and other window > > based system Access Application and database from > > that Solaris Syste

Re: [osol-discuss] Run Vb Application Sun Solaris 10

2007-08-01 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
> Problem : I want to Run Vb Application and MS > Access as a backend on Sun Solaris 10. I want to make > solaris system is operating system and other window > based system Access Application and database from > that Solaris System. Not gonna happen! Stay with windows as nothing will float your bo

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Korey Peters
You gentlemen have made some good points. One of my goals with my open letter was to encourage Solaris to find ways to allow users who are not in the technical elite to use the awesome power that is available. Ubuntu seeks to be friendly by "dumbing-down" the Linux system. This is a lowest-c

[osol-discuss] slightly odd behavior with snv_69 and a v40z

2007-08-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
decent enough machine but while booting I wa presented with errors about a bus running out of resources. I'll try to capture that off the console. I figure that I may as well flash up the BIOS and SP and maybe that is the issue at play here. The SP says I have this : localhost $ inventory get s

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Giles Turner
> Keep in mind that if you are tracking sales records. Blizzard just made an > all time sales record with a PC based game (The sequel to World of > Warcraft). > Yup, that's what the article I read a month or so stated. MMORPGs like WoW > are the most successful of the PC games anymore. Probably bec

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > I have also found the default sources.list in Ubuntu to be too limited. > You need to > download and install Automatix2 separately to get a juicy sources.list. > This IMHO > shouldn't have been the case. Agreed. I 'spose by stripping everything down

Re: [osol-discuss] Oh dear operating systems help me please

2007-08-01 Thread Anil Gulecha
Hey, On 8/2/07, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i previously had a machine running windows vista and ubuntu 7.04 on one GRUB > boot loader. Now when i installed solaris 10, it has a new grub boot loader > and vista and ubuntu aren't there! i cant even acess the other partitions!!! > > omg plea

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Anil Gulecha
On 8/2/07, Glenn Lagasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Playback is free on Windows and Mac OS because Microsoft and Apple > licensed the codecs from their respective owners. Playback is free > on Linux only because the Linux movement doesn't care much about the > IP Laws in the US (understandably)

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 21:28 -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > The problem is that Sun in the past just keeps going for the 'high end > niche' eventually that niche will become so small it stops > existing - > SGI is finding out that the hard way - hopeing to slash and > b

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:34 -0700, John Martinez wrote: > On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:14 PM, MC wrote: > > > On games, I'm not sure everyone knows this, so I'll point it out. > > Games are a "killer app" for PCs, and they have been for years. > > (They make people buy computers.) There is a lot of

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:14 -0700, MC wrote: > On games, I'm not sure everyone knows this, so I'll point it out. > Games are a "killer app" for PCs, and they have been for years. (They > make people buy computers.) There is a lot of money in this stuff, > but it takes a lot of money to get right.

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Alan DuBoff wrote: > [...] > So, one of the reasons I did want to install Ubuntu is that I have an > opensource library which one of the Ubuntu developers wants to putback to > Debian, and I am updating the name to prevent name collision with another > library. Ah, but Ubunto doesn't install aut

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 18:55 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: > Orvar Korvar wrote: > > For a Windows user, these things are essential for a successfull switch: > > > > -chat, msn > > Pidgin, nee GAIM. > > > -web cam > > Works to some extent already with Ekiga. True, but many new cameras are UVC c

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 16:56 -0700, Ché Kristo wrote: > I don't think you will be disappointed. > > In fact most of the things you refer to are already in Solaris > Express. > > I Run Solaris Express DE on my laptop and Ultra 20 and can't complain > about either. Things that you have mentioned su

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 23:33 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: > Kaiwai: > > > I'm surprised that Sun can't get access to those windows codecs > under > > the agreement which Sun and Microsoft signed. > > I don't think access to the codecs is the problem. Paying the > royalties required to distribute t

Re: [osol-discuss] Run Vb Application Sun Solaris 10

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 05:53 -0700, sarit saini wrote: > Good Evening Everybody, > > I am a s/w engineer, Currently I am Facing a very critical problem, > if Someebody have any suggestion related to my problem then post ur > suggestion. > [b]Problem : I want to Run Vb Application and MS Access

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
The problem is that Sun in the past just keeps going for the 'high end > niche' eventually that niche will become so small it stops existing - > SGI is finding out that the hard way - hopeing to slash and burn costs > whilst ignoring it is the uniqueness which bring customers over, not > necessari

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
> > This is really bad. Firefox + Xserver will soon > > consume 1.3 GB together > > and a 1 GB system will start excessive paging. Is > > this really needed? > > What is ridiculous is that one needs 1GB of RAM for a graphical > installation. That is really unacceptable, and it's a self-afflicted >

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 12:03 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So, I gave Solaris 10 (11/06) a shot. Solaris barfed > > > all over me; like a girlfriend you love but who just > > > can't get it together, it wouldn't get past the > > > initial display pro

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 01:10 -0700, Artem Kachitchkine wrote: > > You don't like reading documentation, or what? What do you think, > that development and/or engineering is a partisan, guerilla coding > process? > > > > Sun documentation has always been one of the biggest incentives to > take and i

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 00:52 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > Its about communication and advocacy - its about > > making sure developers > > understand the process of contributions and the > > rationale behind it - > > stop hiding under layers upon layers of documentation > > - documentation > > that i

Re: [osol-discuss] Drivers for ATI X1900

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:01 -0600, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > > ken mays wrote: > >> "http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#2 > >> We also actively > >> assist developers in the Open Source community with > >> their work, so if you absolutely re

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 00:01 +0100, Alan Burlison wrote: > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > > Hardware - ATI drivers anyone? drivers for webcams, flash card > readers, > > sound cards out of the box etc. etc. again, 2 years of opensolaris, > even > > more since Solaris x86 support came back and there are

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 04:19 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, James Carlson wrote: > > > I think I'm one of the command-line geeks this message refers to > > somewhat indirectly. My idea of a "GUI" is still twm with xterms and > > emacs windows, and I wouldn't really want to have i

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Ché Kristo
I recall that there is a degree of developer support around SXDE which is around developer tools as distinct from production support. maybe even that they were offering a certain amount for free... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ openso

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Ché Kristo
I recall that there is a degree of developer support around SXDE which is around developer tools as distinct from production support. maybe even that they were offering a certain amount for free... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ openso

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
> Well Matthew, you seem like a thoughtful guy. > > Here's my take: > > SuSE Linux installed perfectly on this HP dv4217cl (dv4000) notebook, > requiring only that I install an RPM for the wireless network card > that was supplied on the non-oss cd. It works flawlessly, after two > days of fairl

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 10:30 -0700, Christopher Mahan wrote: > --- Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But at the same time, you need managers who are confident about > > what > > they're saying. I've seen webcasts in the past, who, bless their > > cotton > > socks, knew what they were

Re: [osol-discuss] Two noob questions (kernel/filesystem)

2007-08-01 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 09:53 -0700, Orvar Korvar wrote: > Well, I am not going to tune the kernel, but I was just wondering. Ok, > Solaris has several different tunable schedulers, whereas Linux has > one. Linux scheduler is aimed at server use, presumably solaris kernel > is also. I wonder, is Sola

Re: [osol-discuss] [Resend]: Firefox 2.0.0.6 contrib. builds on Solaris10, Solaris8/9 are

2007-08-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Two very minor adjustments are recommended: > > First, you probably would want to either copy or do a > soft link of your plugins from the existing > installation: > > ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/* /opt/lib/firefox/plugins/ In case someone is allergic to command lines, you can always use

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:44:48 -0400, you wrote: >The Free software movement doesn't believe in software patents. Not true. The free software movement believes that software patents are bad for a variety of reasons, but still acknowledges that (at least in the US) they are legally valid. It is for

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread David Lloyd
Well, > Yup, that's what the article I read a month or so stated. MMORPGs like > WoW are the most successful of the PC games anymore. Probably because of > the way you play them. It'd be hard(er) to do on a console. Damn, I need > to find that article again. Of course they are - not only can

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, John Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: > > On 8/1/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I thought I read somewhere (can't find the source) that the market > > for PC games is shrinking and the market for console games is growin

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread John Martinez
On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: On 8/1/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought I read somewhere (can't find the source) that the market for PC games is shrinking and the market for console games is growing (Wii/PS3/Xbox 360). PC gaming makes much less money than console ga

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread MC
> Keep in mind that if you are tracking sales records. Blizzard just made an > all time sales record with a PC based game (The sequel to World of Warcraft). I certainly keep that in mind, but it doesn't affect what I just said :) On the MMORPG front, the same success could come on a console wit

Re: [osol-discuss] Oh dear operating systems help me please

2007-08-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
> i previously had a machine running windows vista and ubuntu 7.04 on one GRUB > boot loader. Now when i installed solaris 10, it has a new grub boot loader > and vista and ubuntu aren't there! i cant even acess the other partitions!!! > > omg please say it can be helped?? let's just see what oth

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I thought I read somewhere (can't find the source) that the market > for PC games is shrinking and the market for console games is growing > (Wii/PS3/Xbox 360). > > PC gaming makes much less money than console gaming right now, because of > the aforeme

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread MC
> I thought I read somewhere (can't find the source) that the market for PC games is shrinking and the market for console games is growing (Wii/PS3/Xbox 360). PC gaming makes much less money than console gaming right now, because of the aforementioned advantages to the standardized console platfo

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Glenn Lagasse
On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: > > If Mac OS and Windows, and Ubuntu > > can view these files, we should look at making a solaris desktop > as easy > > to use. Currently desktop usage of Solaris is tiny. Large developers > > aren't really targetting SOlaris (just as most large de

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Dirk Wetter
On 31.07.2007 04:34, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 12:11 -0700, Edward McAuley wrote: >> Uh, let's see. Beautiful interface (as attractive as the Mac or Vista), >>intuitively laid out, ease of use, UNIX (like), open source...it's already here. >> >> You can download it or buy it.

[osol-discuss] Oh dear operating systems help me please

2007-08-01 Thread Luke
i previously had a machine running windows vista and ubuntu 7.04 on one GRUB boot loader. Now when i installed solaris 10, it has a new grub boot loader and vista and ubuntu aren't there! i cant even acess the other partitions!!! omg please say it can be helped?? This message posted from ope

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Cameron
Brian: > The Free software movement doesn't believe in software patents. Untrue. It would be better to say that they do not support them. I'd be interested to hear how far "the free software movment doesn't believe in software patents" argument gets anyone in court. :) The GPL license is qui

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Coopersmith
I suspect you're right (or at least the people there are more likely to know who they are). -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering Brian Gupta wrote: > I suspect they are more likely to be found on the advocacy-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
I suspect they are more likely to be found on the advocacy-discuss list.. (I don't know.) On 8/1/07, Fauzia Saeed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Proposal is done. Who are the right people in product marketing? > > Brian Gupta wrote: > > On 8/1/07, Fauzia Saeed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >

Re: [osol-discuss] [Resend]: Firefox 2.0.0.6 contrib. builds on Solaris10, Solaris8/9 are

2007-08-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Firefox 2.0.0.6 contributed builds on Solaris10, > Solaris8/9 are now > available on www.mozilla.com > > > What's New > == > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0.0.6/releaseno > tes/#whatsnew > > Downloading > === > http://www.mozilla.com (Click "Free Download") > http://ww

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brian: > > > First off, as I understand the Codecs are opensource. They also might be > > legal, but the status is not clear. > > There are a lot of issues here. Note that the GPL/LGPL (and many other > free licenses) do not allow IP protec

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Fauzia Saeed
Proposal is done. Who are the right people in product marketing? Brian Gupta wrote: On 8/1/07, *Fauzia Saeed* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Where in Sun do I find someone to sponsor it? Alan Coopersmith wrote: Fauzia (foz) Saeed wrote: The Open Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread John Martinez
On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:14 PM, MC wrote: > On games, I'm not sure everyone knows this, so I'll point it out. > Games are a "killer app" for PCs, and they have been for years. > (They make people buy computers.) There is a lot of money in this > stuff, but it takes a lot of money to get righ

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Cameron
Brian: > First off, as I understand the Codecs are opensource. They also might be > legal, but the status is not clear. There are a lot of issues here. Note that the GPL/LGPL (and many other free licenses) do not allow IP protected code to be included. This can be worked around with proper ex

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread MC
On games, I'm not sure everyone knows this, so I'll point it out. Games are a "killer app" for PCs, and they have been for years. (They make people buy computers.) There is a lot of money in this stuff, but it takes a lot of money to get right. Microsoft hasn't been steering the PC gaming

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, Fauzia Saeed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where in Sun do I find someone to sponsor it? > > Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > Fauzia (foz) Saeed wrote: > > The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local > SW council which is a respected non-profit organizatio

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brian: > > I'm not a lawyer so I can't really comment on what Ubuntu is doing with > any authority. There are probably some cases where users could > legally install such IP protected code. Examples could include: > > - people who live in

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Fauzia Saeed
I want Sun to sponsor the San Diego SW Council. We will then ask them to partner with us in promoting Open Solaris. Dennis Clarke wrote: The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local SW council which is a respected non-profit organization with a membership 200

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Fauzia Saeed
Where in Sun do I find someone to sponsor it? Alan Coopersmith wrote: Fauzia (foz) Saeed wrote: The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local SW council which is a respected non-profit organization with a membership 200 SW corporations (Oracle, Qualcomm, Acc

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Cameron
Brian: I'm not a lawyer so I can't really comment on what Ubuntu is doing with any authority. There are probably some cases where users could legally install such IP protected code. Examples could include: - people who live in countries that have different IP law (I'd bet countries that ser

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Fauzia (foz) Saeed wrote: > The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local > SW council which is a respected non-profit organization with a membership 200 > SW corporations (Oracle, Qualcomm, Accucorp, FAir Isaac etc.) SDIC has a > huge database, is well-connected

Re: [osol-discuss] Portable UPnP SDK : build success

2007-08-01 Thread homerun
Greetings it seems there is plenty of freeware servers developed .. This looked promising but no idea how it will "sit" in to solaris. Gives me idea , how about found a UPnP Media server project ?? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ openso

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
> The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local > SW council which is a respected non-profit organization with a membership > 200 SW corporations (Oracle, Qualcomm, Accucorp, FAir Isaac etc.) SDIC has > a huge database, is well-connected with UCSD and will help us i

[osol-discuss] Getting a Lucrative Sponsorship Funded

2007-08-01 Thread Fauzia (foz) Saeed
The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local SW council which is a respected non-profit organization with a membership 200 SW corporations (Oracle, Qualcomm, Accucorp, FAir Isaac etc.) SDIC has a huge database, is well-connected with UCSD and will help us in prom

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, Bart Smaalders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ian Collins wrote: > > Brian Gupta wrote: > >> It would make it easier for some of us to deploy "OpenSolaris". > > How can Sun support something that changes every couple of weeks and > > doesn't support patching? > > > > I suppose they could

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Bart Smaalders
Ian Collins wrote: > Brian Gupta wrote: >> It would make it easier for some of us to deploy "OpenSolaris". > How can Sun support something that changes every couple of weeks and > doesn't support patching? > > I suppose they could provide a help line with a recorded message "please > upgrade the t

Re: [osol-discuss] Two noob questions (kernel/filesystem)

2007-08-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Converting from symlink to lofs mount for > package-delivered > directories is trivial, so I'll assume you don't need > instructions. > > Cleaning up the mess means merging back together two > directory trees. > If you had this before the errant package install: > > /opt/csw -> /export/cs

Re: [osol-discuss] Two noob questions (kernel/filesystem)

2007-08-01 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Really ? That is odd. You should be able to make sX > into whatever > filesystem you want. The installer is not aware of > slices over 7 but > really, you can move a filesystem to slice 14 > afterwards if you wanted to. > > very odd > > Dennis > Not very clear about what you meant by the f

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread andrewk9
The fact that Sun offers support on Solaris Express at all is pretty impressive in my view. Don't Sun already offer developer support for SXDE? Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-08-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
Orvar Korvar wrote: > For a Windows user, these things are essential for a successfull switch: > > -chat, msn Pidgin, nee GAIM. > -web cam Works to some extent already with Ekiga. > -photoshop-esque program. GIMP - already in Solaris Express. > -file sharing; bittorrent and DC++. Important.

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-08-01 Thread Orvar Korvar
For a Windows user, these things are essential for a successfull switch: -chat, msn -web cam -photoshop-esque program. -file sharing; bittorrent and DC++. Important. -office -film player without juggling with codecs -Wine for individual needs (some user might need an unusual program, hence: wine)

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Edward McAuley
Nice Job! Persistence and creativity are excellent traits. It really is not a matter of giving up, though. As I said, if I had another notebook, I'd give it a shot but this is my only notebook, currently and I use it for business, every day. Also, I do run as many as six, x86 and x86-64 Sola

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> I'd love to hear suggestions *because* I do have code > that I'd like to see > run on both Solaris and Linux which reports fine > grained timing information > with some degree of accuracy. gethrtime() is available on Linux if you install the RTLinux extension to the kernel. The easiest way to d

Re: [osol-discuss] OS complains with "no left space on device" while there are enough free space

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gurus, > > V490+Solaris 9,On a 79GBytes file system "/usr/local", where there > are2 5GBytes free, system fails to > create a 1GBytes file via mkfile:# df -h /usr/local > Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on > /dev/dsk/c1t1d0

[osol-discuss] Run Vb Application Sun Solaris 10

2007-08-01 Thread sarit saini
Good Evening Everybody, I am a s/w engineer, Currently I am Facing a very critical problem, if Someebody have any suggestion related to my problem then post ur suggestion. [b]Problem : I want to Run Vb Application and MS Access as a backend on Sun Solaris 10. I want to make solaris system is

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> Some of your heroes would tell you, perhaps > self-indulgently, if > anything, that code is documentation. Never > underestimate the power of > power. Code can be documentation if the variable names used are self-explanatory and if the working of the code is documented in plain, simple Englis

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> Again, I agree; except for one point. Games should > *never* be part of an OE; or ever allowed anywhere > near. Multimedia, > yes. Gaming, *definitively* no. Unless someone can > possibly embed a flight-simulator into > init/inittab/SMF as a new > run-level - "init F" / "svcadm enable fltsim",

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> My impression is that a current Nevada build with > Gnome desktop > will not work decently if it has less than 2 GB of > RAM. I assure you that that is just an impression. I'm running snv_61 on my 1.2GHz Athlon with 896MB of RAM, and pah-lenty of free RAM to spare (roughly 462MB) after I'm log

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, James Carlson wrote: > I think I'm one of the command-line geeks this message refers to > somewhat indirectly. My idea of a "GUI" is still twm with xterms and > emacs windows, and I wouldn't really want to have it any other way. > > Just the same, I think having an environmen

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I gave Solaris 10 (11/06) a shot. Solaris barfed > > all over me; like a girlfriend you love but who just > > can't get it together, it wouldn't get past the > > initial display probe and gave me an unintelligible > > (read blank) GUI screen. > > Welc

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> What can the opensolaris community do? nothing, it > has no money. Look here: "Solaris 10 Software Developer Collection >> Writing Device Drivers" http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4854/ The real issue is, are you just an end user complaining and waiting for somebody else to solve it for

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> Windows ease of use is lame compared to OS X, and not > much better than > Solaris or Linux. Funny you should write that, as a remorseful iBook G4 user, I'm endlessly frustrated with Apple's usability guidelines. Mac OS X is one of the most frustrating UNIX systems I have had the misfortune of

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> So, I gave Solaris 10 (11/06) a shot. Solaris barfed > all over me; like a girlfriend you love but who just > can't get it together, it wouldn't get past the > initial display probe and gave me an unintelligible > (read blank) GUI screen. Welcome to the club! I've had problems with Solaris 10 a

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
> You don't like reading documentation, or what? What do you think, that > development and/or engineering is a partisan, guerilla coding process? > > Sun documentation has always been one of the biggest incentives to take and > implement Sun technology. What good is an "awesome" technology that

Re: [osol-discuss] OS complains with "no left space on device" while there are enough free space

2007-08-01 Thread Ian Collins
Simon wrote: > Gurus, > > V490+Solaris 9,On a 79GBytes file system "/usr/local", where there > are2 5GBytes free, system fails to > create a 1GBytes file via mkfile: > > You are more than a little off topic for this (an OpenSolaris) list, try somewhere like comp.unix.solaris. Ian __

Re: [osol-discuss] Drivers for ATI X1900

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Trulson
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > ken mays wrote: >> "http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#2 >> We also actively >> assist developers in the Open Source community with >> their work, so if you absolutely require an open >> source driver for your graphics card, we can recomm

Re: [osol-discuss] Drivers for ATI X1900

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Trulson
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, [UTF-8] Ché Kristo wrote: You mention XiG (Xi Graphics), do they even exist anymore? Try http://www.xig.com/ and note that it times out... Yeah... we exist :) We just had a web hosting provider that screwed up a data center move so badly our server hasn't been seen

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-08-01 Thread UNIX admin
> Its about communication and advocacy - its about > making sure developers > understand the process of contributions and the > rationale behind it - > stop hiding under layers upon layers of documentation > - documentation > that is 9/10 filled with waffle. You don't like reading documentation, o

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Ché Kristo
If they did I would start selling shares... Why would you offer support contracts on your alpha and beta products? That you have asked this question perplexes me. Microsoft don't go around supporting Release candidates, IBM doesn't offer contracts on the "open" AIX beta releases and neither doe

[osol-discuss] OS complains with "no left space on device" while there are enough free space

2007-08-01 Thread Simon
Gurus, V490+Solaris 9,On a 79GBytes file system "/usr/local", where there are2 5GBytes free, system fails to create a 1GBytes file via mkfile: # df -h /usr/local Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/dsk/c1t1d0s6 79G53G25G69%/usr/local # cd /usr