>
> Look, everyone's pissed off here. And I can see most of the sides
> (though certainly not all). There are threads on opensolaris.org, there
> are threads inside Sun, and there are now even more press articles
> feeding and inflaming both -- while far too many reasonable people are
> sitting qui
Hi ...
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Feb 10, 2007, at 7:18 AM, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
In parts, this document attempts to thwart conversation on
OpenSolaris, and I don't support that strategy under any circumstance
-- especially since so many of us have worked so hard to have /open/
conversati
> Agreed; Shakespear had it right: first, shoot all the
> lawyers. :-)
I know you're being silly Rich, so this isn't directed at you :)
I and many others are thankful for the great deal of time and effort that SUN's
legal counsel has spent on ensuring that the OpenSolaris project could even
ha
> I'd suggest that, as we have a member-based system
> emerging right
> now, maybe we should have a list as Roy suggests
> that's writable only
> by Core Contributors (readable by all). Time for an
> "opensolaris-
> core" list perhaps, a place for substantive
> discussion of issues
> facing
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:23:36PM -0800, Thomas Maier-Komor wrote:
> > Awww...I *loved* the fact that they interviewed Steve, someone is
> > contributing
> > real time and love to the project, rather than necessarily someone technical
> > with deep wisdom about kernel internals.
>
> You missed m
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 05:59:01PM -0800, Glynn Foster wrote:
> Awww...I *loved* the fact that they interviewed Steve, someone is contributing
> real time and love to the project, rather than necessarily someone technical
> with deep wisdom about kernel internals.
>
> There's only so much detail y
On Feb 11, 2007, at 13:28, Bill Rushmore wrote:
I totally agree Giacomo. As much as I have tried, I just can't
interested in the licensing discussions. As someone who wants to
use the fruits of OpenSolaris for my own use and to make a living
writing software for the platform the differen
> Awww...I *loved* the fact that they interviewed Steve, someone is contributing
> real time and love to the project, rather than necessarily someone technical
> with deep wisdom about kernel internals.
You missed my point: interviewing someone who is heavily involved is really a
good idea. I lik
Hey,
Thomas Maier-Komor wrote:
> I thought it might be interesting to see this video and it may even give an
> opportunity to send a link around to some people to get them to take a look
> at Solaris.
>
> But - after seeing this video, I don't think so anymore.
>
> I am certain, nobody outside
I thought it might be interesting to see this video and it may even give an
opportunity to send a link around to some people to get them to take a look at
Solaris.
But - after seeing this video, I don't think so anymore.
I am certain, nobody outside the Solaris community will be able to pull an
Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2007, at 01:03, Christopher Mahan wrote:
>
> > The CDDL clause on forcing an entity to stop using CDDL software in
> > case the company sues for patent infringement is, in my opinion, a
> > gross poison pill, onerous to the small company whos
Yes,for me Richard, this is _exactly_ the issue.Thank you!
+1000 form me.
Giacomo
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o
Chris,
Things have to get simpler before they'll get better.
Have you ever tried to work out if the code you're writing relies
heavily enough on GPLv2 code that you need to GPLv2 it in a commercial
independent software vendor?
For some managers, contributing the parts one got free to the
De Togni Giacomo wrote:
[i]The discussion should be held
in the widest possible forum, which to me looks like
opensolaris-discuss[/i]
Good for widest possible forum but if generic (like opensolaris-discuss) it
could be problematic.The licenses issues are not generic but specific
issues.So,a sp
The fundamental problem with the GPL is the same thing you seem to
regard as a virtue, namely that to modify or link with and redistribute
GPL material, all one's own material involved must be made available
under the same terms.
It's a lever to force everyone to play by the same particular interp
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Christopher Mahan wrote:
> Rich, I am assuming you're a smart guy.
Some might say you assume too much--but not I. :-)
> What am I supposed to do with 8 files out of 13 that it takes to
> build a program and run it?
>
> I take rich.c and add chris.c, and I also add commonh
On Feb 10, 2007, at 7:18 AM, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
In parts, this document attempts to thwart conversation on
OpenSolaris, and I don't support that strategy under any
circumstance -- especially since so many of us have worked so hard
to have /open/ conversations. Also, the OpenSolaris Commun
On Feb 11, 2007, at 01:03, Christopher Mahan wrote:
The CDDL clause on forcing an entity to stop using CDDL software in
case the company sues for patent infringement is, in my opinion, a
gross poison pill, onerous to the small company whose patents are
being infringed upon. You and I may not a
On Feb 11, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Christopher Mahan wrote:
--- "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Christopher Mahan wrote:
--- David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
GPL says:
"If you want to redistribute MY code you must give me the
changes
to M
--- Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Christopher Mahan wrote:
>
> > I do 50% of the work, you do 50% of the work, we both enjoy 100%
> of
> > the product. I am not restricting your use of my code as long as
> you
> > allow me to use the code you write alongside it.
>
--- "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Christopher Mahan wrote:
>
> >
> > --- David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> GPL says:
> >>
> >> "If you want to redistribute MY code you must give me the
> changes
> >> to MY
> >> distribution that Y
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Christopher Mahan wrote:
> I do 50% of the work, you do 50% of the work, we both enjoy 100% of
> the product. I am not restricting your use of my code as long as you
> allow me to use the code you write alongside it.
Agreed. The CDDL also allows this. The distinction is tha
On 2/11/07, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I suspended this spam user account. Sorry it got through.
Jim
and i almost mark you as spam when i saw the subject :P
nacho
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On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Christopher Mahan wrote:
--- David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
GPL says:
"If you want to redistribute MY code you must give me the changes
to MY
distribution that YOU have changed and you MUST license YOUR code
under
MY license if YOUR code requires a signi
[i]The discussion should be held
in the widest possible forum, which to me looks like
opensolaris-discuss[/i]
Good for widest possible forum but if generic (like opensolaris-discuss) it
could be problematic.The licenses issues are not generic but specific
issues.So,a specific forum as opensolari
> I think that OGB position is reasonable especially
> around these points:
>
> o Further discussions related to any form of dual
> licensing be
> postponed until after the GPLv3 has been published
> and approved and
> should take place on the OGB discussion forum only.
Sorry, I totally disagree.
As this might be of general interest, I did add
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
"a b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >If you like, I am looking for people who like to help me with enhancing the
> >SCCS
> >sources. Check
> >
> >ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/sccs/
> >
> >for the latest source.
> >
I think that OGB position is reasonable especially around these points:
o Further discussions related to any form of dual licensing be
postponed until after the GPLv3 has been published and approved and
should take place on the OGB discussion forum only.
o Further discussion on GPL* is merely a d
OK, so it's legit after all? Thanks for the info.
(One can never be paranoid enough...)
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--- David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> GPL says:
>
> "If you want to redistribute MY code you must give me the changes
> to MY
> distribution that YOU have changed and you MUST license YOUR code
> under
> MY license if YOUR code requires a significant proportion of MY
> code to
> compi
I suspended this spam user account. Sorry it got through.
Jim
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