Re: [osol-discuss] when will JDS4 be integrated into nevada builds ?

2006-05-05 Thread Laszlo (Laca) Peter
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 21:08 -0700, Sriram Natarajan wrote: > is there a plan to integrate Gnome 2.14 (JDS4) into Nevada builds ? Yes, we are targetting snv_41. Laca ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] when will JDS4 be integrated into nevada builds ?

2006-05-05 Thread Sriram Natarajan
Hi is there a plan to integrate Gnome 2.14 (JDS4) into Nevada builds ? thanks sriram This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Percentage of Solaris now open source ?

2006-05-05 Thread Ian Collins
Darren J Moffat wrote: > I need to calculate (plus or minus about 5%) what percentage of the > whole Solaris product is open source today and what percentage it is > likely to be when Solaris 11 releases. It doesn't matter if the > source is hosted on opensolaris.org or is source like stuff in th

[osol-discuss] Error during whole root zone boot

2006-05-05 Thread Gopal Jorapur
We are stuck at the following error We have JES4 installed on the system Can somebody help? bash-3.00# zoneadm -z zonename boot zoneadm: zone 'zonename': WARNING: icge0:9: no matching subnet found in netmasks(4) for IPaddress ; using default of 255.0.0.0. zoneadm: zone 'zonename': could not stat

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Tao Chen wrote: Not supporting Update Connection (http://www.sun.com/service/sunupdate/) or "smpatch update" in Nevada means it will not be tested like other componens by us "beta-users". They are there and should be supported - they just won't offer any updates to the system itself, only unbun

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread James Carlson
Tao Chen writes: > Not supporting Update Connection (http://www.sun.com/service/sunupdate/) or > "smpatch update" in Nevada means it will not be tested like other componens > by us "beta-users". There just are no patches associated with marketing releases under development. Patches are difficult

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread Tao Chen
On 5/5/06, Matty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 6 - have they tried live upgrade? > > I sure have, and I personally don't think you can compare 'yum upgrade' with ^

Re: [osol-discuss] bug filing question

2006-05-05 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-05 14:08]: > Is it possible for an average Joe OpenSolaris Developer to file a bug > against /usr/bin/mail (and libmail.so) in Solaris 8? The failure is not reproducible on recent Nevada bits? -- Stephen Hahn, PhD Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Micros

[osol-discuss] bug filing question

2006-05-05 Thread Al Hopper
Is it possible for an average Joe OpenSolaris Developer to file a bug against /usr/bin/mail (and libmail.so) in Solaris 8? Thanks, Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris.Org Community Advisory

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread Matty
On Thu, 4 May 2006, Dave Miner wrote: Matty wrote: I don't want to expand upon the issues I face with Solaris 10 (01/06), considering the nastiness I received on the yahoo mailing list; lets just say that compared to even Windows XP, the experience as a workstation 'user' has been less than

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread Matty
Oooops -- I made a rather large typo, which is fixed below. Sorry about that. - Ryan On Fri, 5 May 2006, Matty wrote: 6 - have they tried live upgrade? I sure have, and I personally don't think you can compare 'yum upgrade' with ^

[osol-discuss] anyone going to NSDI?

2006-05-05 Thread Mike Kupfer
Anyone going to NSDI in San Jose next week? Want to meet up (e.g., lunch Monday or dinner Tuesday)? mike ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread Matty
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Ian Collins wrote: A few observations. 1 - I agree, we are almost there, all that is missing is PHP. PHP is a start, but there are numerous other modules (LDAP authentication, fast cgi, mod_jk, etc.) and packages (e.g., Ruby, recent version of MySQL, etc.) that should b

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-05 Thread Peter Tribble
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 00:17, Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > > > http://daemons.net/~matty/blog/?p=413 > > Absolutely, completely agree 100% on #2. We suck monkeys. > > Having JDS in Solaris 10 based on a 2 year old version of GNOME [2.6] as > opposed to what Red Hat have in Fedora Core 5 is pre

[osol-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Walker
I agree. If you have tags (which I like) then making them as short as possible is the way to go. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Percentage of Solaris now open source ?

2006-05-05 Thread Ben Rockwood
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: A third metric (arguably as silly) is the percentage of bytes in files in the whole Solaris distro derives entirely from open-sourced source files (counting shared libraries separately from what links to them). Perhaps you just need to: * think about what metric is m

Re: [osol-discuss] Percentage of Solaris now open source ?

2006-05-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
James Carlson wrote: Darren J Moffat writes: I need to calculate (plus or minus about 5%) what percentage of the whole Solaris product is open source today and what percentage it is likely to be when Solaris 11 releases. It doesn't matter if the source is hosted on opensolaris.org or is sourc

[osol-discuss] Re: Percentage of Solaris now open source ?

2006-05-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
A third metric (arguably as silly) is the percentage of bytes in files in the whole Solaris distro derives entirely from open-sourced source files (counting shared libraries separately from what links to them). Perhaps you just need to: * think about what metric is most acceptable to the audienc

[osol-discuss] Re: XATTRs

2006-05-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Holger Berger wrote: There is no way for a shell script to read, write, rename or delete an attribute file. Huh ? runat(1) Example 2: Creating extended attributes example% runat file.2 cp /tmp/attrdata attr.1 example% runat file.2 cat /tmp/attrdata > attr.1 Applications w

Re: [osol-discuss] XATTRs

2006-05-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Darren J Moffat wrote: Holger Berger wrote: On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if the "application" is the shell itself? The shell cannot access This is not really true. the shell may access the file

[osol-discuss] Re: XATTRs

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/5/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Holger Berger wrote: > On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > What if the "application" is the shell itself? The shell cannot access >> >> This is not really true. the sh

[osol-discuss] XATTRs

2006-05-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Holger Berger wrote: On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if the "application" is the shell itself? The shell cannot access This is not really true. the shell may access the files after it has been started using runat(1) o

[osol-discuss] XATTRs (runat)

2006-05-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Holger Berger wrote: On 5/2/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Thurlow wrote: > I don't agree with Darren that runat is a problem, and it's in > the wild, so I don't expect it to go anywhere. Let me clarify what I meant by my statement. I think runat(1) is a good debug/devel

[osol-discuss] XATTRs

2006-05-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Holger Berger wrote: I am not aware of any Microsoft proposals. My exceptions are about the current Solaris implementation which are just an unusable amyelencephalus. Unusable for what ? Exactly what did you try to use them for ? Exactly how did they fail you ? Fundamental Architecture

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wrong: I encourtage you to talk to the people who are working on the > > project. > > > > Unless they did change their mind recently, they are still working on > > support for XATTRs. > I asked the Novell kernel engineers at LinuxTag in Wiesbaden. Ne

Re: [osol-discuss] BugZilla for OpenSplaris projects ?

2006-05-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Ian Collins wrote: Roland Mainz wrote: Hi! Is there somewhere a BugZilla[1] which can be used for OpenSolaris projects ? If there is no such installation - could genunix.org host such a beast ? [1]=I am asking explicitly for "BugZilla" for several reasons... please no "which-bugtracking

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) Linux & FreeBSD currently work on a full NFSv4 implementation that > > includes t

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) Linux & FreeBSD currently work on a full NFSv4 implementation that > > includes the NFSv4 XATTE interface which is the base of the > >

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/2/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Thurlow wrote: > I don't agree with Darren that runat is a problem, and it's in > the wild, so I don't expect it to go anywhere. Let me clarify what I meant by my statement. I think runat(1) is a good debug/development tool. I don't

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) Linux & FreeBSD currently work on a full NFSv4 implementation that includes the NFSv4 XATTE interface which is the base of the Solaris XATTR interface. Linux will support NFSv4 fu

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem I see that these "extended attributes" are inaccessible > from within normal applications and the provided kludges such as Why do you believe this? The shell has no access to these f

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holger Berger wrote: > > For which specific application was the XATTR API designed for? JDS? > > If I remember my history correctly a large part of the driver for this > was a previous project at S

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Holger Berger
On 5/5/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if the "application" is the shell itself? The shell cannot access This is not really true. the shell may access the files after it has been started using runat(1) or in case you did 'cd -

[osol-discuss] some 'emacs' bindings don't work

2006-05-05 Thread Attila Horvath
All While not strictly a Solaris issue, some of my emacs binds don't work and wondering if anyone can help out. Specifically, the 'backspace' and 'C^@' are not working. 'backsapce' appears to be bound to C^H instead of delete. Also the 'C^@' appears to be bound to nothing instead of set-mark-com

Re: [osol-discuss] Percentage of Solaris now open source ?

2006-05-05 Thread James Carlson
Darren J Moffat writes: > I need to calculate (plus or minus about 5%) what percentage of the > whole Solaris product is open source today and what percentage it is > likely to be when Solaris 11 releases. It doesn't matter if the source > is hosted on opensolaris.org or is source like stuff in

[osol-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-05 Thread Stephen Potter
> The subject line is halfway to useless anyway, > because most people on the various opensolaris > maillists happily changes the subject of the > message itself without changing the subject line. So, are we looking for a technical solution to a user problem? Hardly ever works. How about worki

[osol-discuss] Re: BugZilla for OpenSplaris projects ?

2006-05-05 Thread Stephen Potter
Is there an issue with using the normal bug system? Is there a reason to have a special separate bug tool for projects? Won't that create confusion as to where the proper place to open a bug is? And how will those bugs get transferred to the main system when the code is integrated? -spp

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Robert Thurlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holger Berger wrote: > > > For which specific application was the XATTR API designed for? > > To permit Solaris to provide SMB/CIFS "named streams" or subfiles, > also similar to the resource fork files have on MacOS. This was > adopted by NFS Version 4

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I trialled xattrs on a couple of little projects, just for > storing metadata about files, and found runat very useful > for development and debugging. I think it should be kept. +1 Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holger Berger wrote: > > For which specific application was the XATTR API designed for? JDS? > > If I remember my history correctly a large part of the driver for this > was a previous project at Sun that was attempting to do CIFS support - > more tha

[osol-discuss] XATTRs usage

2006-05-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Joerg Schilling wrote: I see no reason to change the current API. Thanks thats good to know. I am however interested in some definitions that would allow people to map between the Sun XATTR system and other XATTR systems. This is very important as other people currently implement NFSv4 XATTR

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if the "application" is the shell itself? The shell cannot access This is not really true. the shell may access the files after it has been started using runat(1) or in case you did 'cd -@ file' on a xattrs enabled shell. > those files and m

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The whole point of them is that they aren't part of the normal file > system name space. They aren't on MacOS X either as best as I can tell, > and I don't believe (though I have no way to check nor the skill to do > so) that they are on Windows XP e

[osol-discuss] Percentage of Solaris now open source ?

2006-05-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
I need to calculate (plus or minus about 5%) what percentage of the whole Solaris product is open source today and what percentage it is likely to be when Solaris 11 releases. It doesn't matter if the source is hosted on opensolaris.org or is source like stuff in the SFW consolidation that is

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem I see that these "extended attributes" are inaccessible > from within normal applications and the provided kludges such as Why do you believe this? > runat(1) are not usable outside a lab environment. First at all these > extended attribut

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is wasted time. The whole XATTR API is brain dead and > > should IMHO be depreciated in favor of a extension which will allow > > all applications to access such attribute files. You should also take > > into consideration that the XATTR

Re: Subversion in Solaris / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is wasted time. The whole XATTR API is brain dead and > should IMHO be depreciated in favor of a extension which will allow > all applications to access such attribute files. You should also take > into consideration that the XATTR API will

[osol-discuss] Re: Asus A7V8X-X LAN Setup

2006-05-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Also what did the scanpci report? > > Check the Asus web site > http://support.asus.com.tw/download/download.aspx?SLan > guage=en-us > > Contact there support to voice your opinions on using > Solaris and would like there Eng. to have evolvement > with OpenSolaris! I don't know what you are ta