Re: [osol-discuss] Links Page Update for Discussion

2005-07-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 7/1/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > On 7/1/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I'd like to update the "related links" page on the site. It's way too > >>thin right now. > > > > > > Are you taking the week off Jim ? A little vacation is in

[osol-discuss] announcements

2005-07-01 Thread Karyn Ritter
I just thought I would share a couple of announcements that I just added to the site: * First community contribution integrated * Cryto and crypto-related source code available for download As you can imagine, we're excited about both of these announcements, and thought you would be as we

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Voting for a bug

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Mike Kupfer wrote: (moved from opensolaris-bugs to opensolaris-discuss) "Gary" == Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gary> I can't seem to find where to vote on a bug in the database. A Gary> pointer would be nice. The bug interface is missing some features that we weren't able to im

Re: [osol-discuss] Links Page Update for Discussion

2005-07-01 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Dennis Clarke wrote: On 7/1/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to update the "related links" page on the site. It's way too thin right now. Are you taking the week off Jim ? A little vacation is in order I think. :-) Vacation ... yes. My baby has learned how to smil

Re: [osol-discuss] GPL & CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean?

2005-07-01 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > questions, but the wheels of lawyers spin slowly. Of course--they probably charge by the hour... -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich __

[osol-discuss] Re: Voting for a bug

2005-07-01 Thread Mike Kupfer
(moved from opensolaris-bugs to opensolaris-discuss) > "Gary" == Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gary> I can't seem to find where to vote on a bug in the database. A Gary> pointer would be nice. The bug interface is missing some features that we weren't able to implement before the

Re: [osol-discuss] can't sign in to opensolaris.org ... and I'm not alone!

2005-07-01 Thread Derek Cicero
Phil Harman wrote: Mike Kupfer wrote: Logins to the site were broken earlier this morning. (I couldn't login, either.) Things seem to be working better now. mike Nope, it's still broken from here. I even got a screenful of Java stack trace on one attempt. It now claims "The informatio

Re: [osol-discuss] Links Page Update for Discussion

2005-07-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 7/1/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to update the "related links" page on the site. It's way too > thin right now. Are you taking the week off Jim ? A little vacation is in order I think. :-) > How would you like to organize it? Do we need a policy > about who we lin

[osol-discuss] Links Page Update for Discussion

2005-07-01 Thread Jim Grisanzio
I'd like to update the "related links" page on the site. It's way too thin right now. How would you like to organize it? Do we need a policy about who we link to? What "related" resources do we really need? This is an updated list below that I'm working on. No decisions on what we link to just

Re: [osol-discuss] GPL & CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean?

2005-07-01 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 11:30:54AM -0700, A K Saravanan wrote: > Here it says that CDDL is incompatible with GPL, and it urges no to use CDDL. They're certainly free to recommend whatever they want, just as Sun is and just as you are. > "a module covered by the GPL and a module covered by the CD

Re: [osol-discuss] GPL & CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean?

2005-07-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 11:30, A K Saravanan wrote: > How are we using Grub, Gnome, etc? Grub is not linked to Solaris. In fact if some other boot loader that supports the multiboot architecture comes along we can very likely use that. The use of Grub to boot Solaris is equivalent to you running b

Re: [osol-discuss] GPL & CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean?

2005-07-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html > >Site lists the CDDL in the page: Various Licenses and Comments about Them > >Here it says that CDDL is incompatible with GPL, and it urges no to use CDDL. > >"a module covered by the GPL and a module covered by the CDDL cannot legally >be linked

[osol-discuss] Re: bite-size bugs

2005-07-01 Thread Frank Batschulat
> If a change is really small, it should be possible to > verify the change by just looking at it (doing code review). > > Jörg I disagree, even a small change may destabilize a subsystem enough due side effects not catched during code review to cause panics, hangs or corruption. We've been hit

Re: [osol-discuss] can't sign in to opensolaris.org ... and I'm not alone!

2005-07-01 Thread Derek Cicero
Mike Kupfer wrote: Logins to the site were broken earlier this morning. (I couldn't login, either.) Things seem to be working better now. It is working intermittently right now. Our network is acting very strangely. Nothing has changed, but suddenly we are getting a lot of errors in the log

Re: [osol-discuss] can't sign in to opensolaris.org ... and I'm not alone!

2005-07-01 Thread Phil Harman
Mike Kupfer wrote: Logins to the site were broken earlier this morning. (I couldn't login, either.) Things seem to be working better now. mike Nope, it's still broken from here. I even got a screenful of Java stack trace on one attempt. It now claims "The information you entered does n

[osol-discuss] GPL & CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean?

2005-07-01 Thread A K Saravanan
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html Site lists the CDDL in the page: Various Licenses and Comments about Them Here it says that CDDL is incompatible with GPL, and it urges no to use CDDL. "a module covered by the GPL and a module covered by the CDDL cannot legally be linked together.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/1/05, Chris Ricker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As an admin of both Linux and various Unixen, one thing I really like from > most distros on the Linux side is the consolidation of patch and package > management into just package management. It tends to simplify systems > management a good deal

Re: [osol-discuss] can't sign in to opensolaris.org ... and I'm not alone!

2005-07-01 Thread Mike Kupfer
Logins to the site were broken earlier this morning. (I couldn't login, either.) Things seem to be working better now. mike ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Torrents at http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/

2005-07-01 Thread Boyd Adamson
On 01/07/05, Ben Rockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Genunix seeds were down for some unknown reason (bt now closes the > controlling terminal, even if its a screen session when exiting which > sucks ass). I've brought back up the seeds on genunix and I'm testing. You should look at the "zo

Re: [osol-discuss] Torrents at http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/

2005-07-01 Thread Joseph Mocker
I reverted back some changes we recently made to the Tracker and now things are running again. Apparently some endian issues are preventing us from enabling some features in the tracker. Building the tracker for the correct endian for the boxes allows the extended features to work, but breaks t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Chris Ricker
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Albert White wrote: > The main things wrong with the SVR4 that I'm seeiing in this discussion is a > lack of features in the tools, rahter than a problem with the SVR4 package and > patch architecture. > > This would lead me to the conclusion that the best thing to do would b

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SchilliX pkgsrc Xorg packages available

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > I put a compiled and hacked version on ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/ > > and I will enhance it (correct porting to S 11 and adding amd64 support). > > The current Xorg CVS head has some AMD64 support for Solaris that I c

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SchilliX pkgsrc Xorg packages available

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: I put a compiled and hacked version on ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/ and I will enhance it (correct porting to S 11 and adding amd64 support). The current Xorg CVS head has some AMD64 support for Solaris that I committed a couple of months ago based on some experimen

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Sunil
> oriented around providing > both binaries and > reproducible (but customizable when needed) builds of > those binaries would > be a Good Thing did I hear 'customizable'? say hello to portage!! that's one cool feature of portage. You install what you customize. USE flags in portage provide you

Re: [osol-discuss] Adaptec driver under Solaris 10

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
JD Bronson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have heard rumor that there are KNOWN issues with the Adaptec driver under > solaris 10, and I was wondering if anyone can confirm that... > > I am seeing something odd. I have replaced all the scsi > cards/cables/terminators and even the drives with KNO

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: [dtrace-discuss] Re: b17 copying behaviour?

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, [UTF-8] Jürgen Keil wrote: > > >>> Quite a few people have reported full duplex problems with the elxl > >>> driver; maybe there's a bug somewhere in the elxl driver with full/half > >>> duplex negotiation? > >> > >> I have tried f

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SchilliX pkgsrc Xorg packages available

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jake Maciejewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess we need to wait for the driver source, as Jörg said. A possible > alternative, however, might be the free "aperture" driver at > http://www.bolthole.com/solaris/drivers/. If that works, we can have free X > without waiting for the next tar

Re: [osol-discuss] bite-size bugs

2005-07-01 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 05:39:22PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a change is really small, it should be possible to verify the change > by just looking at it (doing code review). Code review is not a substitute for testing. If the expectation is tha

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Albert White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The main things wrong with the SVR4 that I'm seeiing in this discussion is > a lack of features in the tools, rahter than a problem with the SVR4 > package and patch architecture. > > This would lead me to the conclusion that the best thing to do would b

Re: [osol-discuss] Is the Schilix LiveCD creating process avaiable ?

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
TJ Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am interest to learn the process/procedue to build SchiliX LiveCD. > I will make the process into a repeatable script for my personal use. > you can use it too if you have TWW's sbutil installed. > > It will be similar to the opensoalris-1.0.sb file I post

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Chris Ricker
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Blastwave unfortunatly currently is a binary "only" distribution. > I would be happy if we could have the knowledge from Blastwave > archived inside a source package system. I would be happy if this could be > done with sps as sps is easy to adopt. Th

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - You have expressed a desire that the package infrastructure > (registry, dependency tracking) for SchilliX be the Solaris standard > (svr4), provided we can open-source it soon enough, correct? Yes. > - And how would you feel if others were to ma

Re: [osol-discuss] floppy driver problems, [was: b17 copying behaviour?]

2005-07-01 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, [UTF-8] Jürgen Keil wrote: (btw, volcheck didn't react to floppies on my machine here) What happens when you stop vold, and try to read from the PS/2 floppy using dd? # /etc/init.d/volmgt stop # dd if=/dev/rdiskette of=/dev/null bs=18k Does that report I/O errors?

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > > > > ... > > ... > > Making the svr4 packaging tools available in source form is a high > > priority; assuming it's possible - a likely proposition > > Note that open-sourcing Solaris packaging is current

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Jake Maciejewski
It's from a libc_wrapper.c that shows up in the Xorg source, originally in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/libc_wrapper.c, then gets copied to xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/ and possibly other locations. I compiled with SunPro on SchilliX. I'm leaning toward this being

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Keith M Wesolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you talking about how binaries built from ON and other Solaris > consolidations are delivered, or about a hypothetical community-led > third-party application repository like portage, pkgsrc, and blastwave > provide today? Certainly unification

Re: [osol-discuss] bite-size bugs

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The testing will be based on the scope and content of the bug. For a > simple fix to a utility, it may be sufficient to simply roll your own > handmade regression tests. For more complicated changes, such as those > to libraries, kernel, or system interf

[osol-discuss] can't sign in to opensolaris.org ... and I'm not alone!

2005-07-01 Thread Phil Harman
When I hit the "Sign In" button, it does away for a bit, and then FireFox reports "Done", but nothing happened (no chance of the screen, no error message, and it still says "You are not signed in" in the top right corner. I've even tried changing my password, but neither work. I'm on the phone

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: router creation using OpenSolaris

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Hedwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg wrote: > > > Do you like to build something like a DSL router box > > using OpenSolaris? > > Hm - but I am interested in changing my DLS woody-router to a > schillix/OpenSolaris or a FreeBSD one. Is it possible, at the current > devlopment stage, to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jake Maciejewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For whatever reason, libc_wrapper.o wanted __sin and __cos, even though the > source only contained references to sin and cos. When compiled with GCC, > however, libc_wrapper.o used sin and cos, so I managed to work around this > problem, but I stil

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's an idea for a quick-n-dirty approach: In theory (I think) one could take all the files contained in all the Xorg packages from the latest Nevada (Solaris Express) build and slap them onto a SchilliX box. The nice thing is,

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Jake Maciejewski
For whatever reason, libc_wrapper.o wanted __sin and __cos, even though the source only contained references to sin and cos. When compiled with GCC, however, libc_wrapper.o used sin and cos, so I managed to work around this problem, but I still don't know why it was happening. This message poste

Re: [osol-discuss] is it the debug mode?

2005-07-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>my opensolaris is running slow e.g. if I am compiling something, the mouse >becomes jumpy and going one workspace to another takes seconds. when idle the kernel consumes like 4-6 % cpu as shown by t op. I have never seen solaris idle cpu usage beyond 1%. > >is it the debug mode? is it possible

[osol-discuss] is it the debug mode?

2005-07-01 Thread Sunil
my opensolaris is running slow e.g. if I am compiling something, the mouse becomes jumpy and going one workspace to another takes seconds. when idle the kernel consumes like 4-6 % cpu as shown by top. I have never seen solaris idle cpu usage beyond 1%. is it the debug mode? is it possible to tu

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Peter C. Tribble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not so. Solaris Express, and the Community release, are binary distributions > based on OpenSolaris. Solaris 10 fails to qualify only as an accident in > timing. > And Sun provide prebuilt binary archives you can bfu. The next Solaris Express may b

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Scott Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 05:33:46PM +0800, James Lick wrote: > > The only Sun > > provided distribution of OpenSolaris comes only as source code (and a > > bunch of binaries that are still closed source). You need to Solaris > > Not so. There is a bina

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an idea for a quick-n-dirty approach: In theory (I think) one > could take all the files contained in all the Xorg packages from the > latest Nevada (Solaris Express) build and slap them onto a SchilliX > box. The nice thing is, as with the rest o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jake Maciejewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sounds like you're good at getting things working. > > Do you know how to fix: > > Undefined first referenced > symbol in file > __cos libc_wrapper.o > __sin

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread TJ Yang
Execuse me for posting my question here not related to this subject. Hi Joerg Would you mind answer my question regarding the Schilix 0.1 Livecd creating process ? http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=979&tstart=0 Thanks for your time tj This message posted from opensolaris.or

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Scott Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 09:20:24PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > Jake Maciejewski wrote: > > >I've been trying to build X with NetBSD's pkgsrc. > > > > I've never tried using pkgsrc, but Xorg 6.8.2 should build out of > > the box with little problem

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To my knowledge, there is no GUI as of yet. JDS has not yet been > > > released as part of the OpenSolaris project. > > > > > > You may be able to install pkg-get from blastwave.org: > > > > > > http://www.blastwave.org/pkg_get.pkg > > > > pkg-get needs

Re: [osol-discuss] Security Community for OpenSolaris

2005-07-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> >> > On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Darren J Moffat wrote: >> > >> > > I'd like to create an OpenSolaris Security community. I'm volunteering >> > > to be the community leader. >> > >> > Although we don't have

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: TCP SNOOP

2005-07-01 Thread Brendan Gregg
G'Day Raymond, On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Raymond Scott wrote: > I'll be trying this out > We just went through a painful process of changing from another vendors > LDAP directory product to Sun's directory. Part of the conversion meant > watching who was still using the old directories and telling

Re: [osol-discuss] Security Community for OpenSolaris

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > > On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Darren J Moffat wrote: > > > > > I'd like to create an OpenSolaris Security community. I'm volunteering > > > to be the community leader. > > > > Although we don't have a process

Re: [osol-discuss] Help: Schillix 0.1 booted without GUI

2005-07-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jun 2005, Xirui wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have tried Schllix 0.1 on my Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo laptop. It booted, > > connected to the network, and even mounted my USB external hard disk after > > plugging. But the system only gave me a comm

[osol-discuss] floppy driver problems, [was: b17 copying behaviour?]

2005-07-01 Thread Jürgen Keil
> (btw, volcheck didn't react to floppies on my machine here) What happens when you stop vold, and try to read from the PS/2 floppy using dd? # /etc/init.d/volmgt stop # dd if=/dev/rdiskette of=/dev/null bs=18k Does that report I/O errors? For Solaris 8 x86 .. Solaris 10 x86, most users

[osol-discuss] Re: Booting my built kernel gives "cannot mount root path"

2005-07-01 Thread Haik Aftandilian
> Is there a separate source tree for > the Install we've released that contains mods for > OpenSolaris? 'cause > if it's the one we all have in our internal > workspaces, I can't see how > it can work. Yes, the OpenSolaris version has some code in it to copy the bins. I [i]think[/i] this versio

Re: [osol-discuss] Torrents at http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/

2005-07-01 Thread Ben Rockwood
Dan Mick wrote: The torrents at http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/ seem to be dead. (no seed?... I'm not great with debugging BT) ___ Good call Dan. Thanks for reporting that. The Genunix seeds were down for some unknown reason (bt now closes the con