Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > Maybe best way IS ditching Yahoo and AOL. As has been discussed in this thread, Yahoo and AOL are merely early adopters of a change that's expected to grow and include ideally everyone on the internet, b

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/15/14 04:09 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- disc...@openindiana.org] The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in There are already several misleading messages in this thread. People sayi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 21 May 2014 15:00, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > Somebody changed the list a couple weeks ago. So there must exist a list > > admin somewhere. > > > > If you need help, I volunteer. > > This is Edward Ned Harvey. It looks like they've taken

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> Somebody changed the list a couple weeks ago. So there must exist a list > admin somewhere. > > If you need help, I volunteer. This is Edward Ned Harvey. It looks like they've taken me up on this offer, and I'm becoming a list administrator. Please stand by...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Somebody changed the list a couple weeks ago. So there must exist a list admin somewhere. If you need help, I volunteer. Contact me at openindi...@nedharvey.com or 1-781-281-8055 I've been a pro IT consultant for 13 years, with hundreds of deployments of linux, openindiana, opensolaris, mail

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
emember the past are condemned to reinvent it. On Mon, 5/19/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Monday, May 1

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/19/14 07:38, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > DMARC was not created by Yahoo for Yahoo. They merely spent several months of > testing before turning on the reject policy. I have been using it for many > months on my private domains & get daily reports of forging attempts as they >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/19/14 03:39 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: I can't help noticing, nothing has changed on this list, and nobody has said anything to effect, "We're going to change something." I believe the list was left running on auto-pilot and there is no active community management going o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I can't help noticing, nothing has changed on this list, and nobody has said anything to effect, "We're going to change something." For me, (Edward Ned Harvey) this will be enough to kill my participation in the list. I guess I'll sit around as a passive observer for another week or something,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
DMARC was not created by Yahoo for Yahoo. They merely spent several months of testing before turning on the reject policy. I have been using it for many months on my private domains & get daily reports of forging attempts as they have been around since before the registrars were allowed to obfus

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:36:13PM -0700, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > > Whether other mail providers follow yahoo depends on how successful > the policy change is in reducing spam and spear phishing attacks. > When probably depends upon the speed with which the mailing list > packages

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-16 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Here is the official mailman page on the subject: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC It seems, the solution is to enable "from_is_list" so the message will actually send "From: Edward Ned Harvey via The List" and "Reply-To: Edward Ned Harvey " I know in the past, there was a lot of room fo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana",...: sen...@yahoo.com posts to the list. The mailing list package forwards the post to all the subscribers. Everyone on the list EXCEPT the subscribers using yahoo.com will see the post. yahoo.com will

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/15/14 01:08 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: It works this way. sen...@yahoo.com posts to the list. The mailing list package forwards the post to all the subscribers. > Everyone on the list EXCEPT the subscribers using yahoo.com will see the post. and any other provider who h

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
, the mailing list gets the post. It's what happens next that poses the problem. Reg On Thu, 5/15/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: openindiana-discuss@o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 14-05-15 12:11 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: On 05/15/14 09:04, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: My immediate question is: how do others manage? I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have proper From: fields. That includes recent posts by address

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/15/14 09:04, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > My immediate question is: how do others manage? > > I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have > proper From: fields. That includes recent posts by addresses @Yahoo. > > What's the difference? Do those lists

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Sorry, but you misread: I am asking about other *mailing lists*. They, the *mailing lists*, are receiving email from @Yahoo users. How? On 15/05/2014 19:17, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > u...@yahoo.com doesn't get any posts from other yahoo users. After a > certain number of bounced

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
t: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 11:04 AM My immediate question is: how do others manage? I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have proper

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
My immediate question is: how do others manage? I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have proper From: fields. That includes recent posts by addresses @Yahoo. What's the difference? Le 2014/05/15 17:57 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: There are alre

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in There are already several misleading messages in this thread. People saying "can't use yahoo," and "switch from yahoo," etc. L

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 15/05/14 19:33, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: And they're free to do whatever they want. I hope we're not trying to solve the world's problem here. But right now, I would like the old way back on this list, whose subscribers really ought to be computer-skilled enough to drop Yaho

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Le 2014/05/15 09:19 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: Whether other mail providers follow yahoo depends on how successful the policy change is in reducing spam and spear phishing attacks. And also depends on whether people go to other providers. Because it's all a balance of anno

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
uot;get another mail account". Reg On Wed, 5/14/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 12:57 PM I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana",...: The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in anyone using yahoo for mail to get bounced. So changing it back excludes anyone using yahoo from participating. To which most e

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 10:17 AM On 05/14/14 03:38 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "'openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org'" Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014, 6:24 AM It looks like, about a week ago, something was changed on the server that makes al

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
m the mailing list admins. Reg On Wed, 5/14/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "'openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org'" Date: Wednesday, May 14, 201

[OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
It looks like, about a week ago, something was changed on the server that makes all messages say they're from "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" instead of saying who they're from. Would it be possible, pretty please, to put it back? If the desire is to filter messages, there's already the [Open