Re: [ob] Please deh, jangan lebay..

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
It's now the turn for younger generation to lead a political party. the reason is very simple: Energetic, Committed, Adaptable and Capable person as well as relatively free from vested interest is a best choice.    From: Henry Liem To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogro

Re: [ob] BUMI 3000 was Please deh, jangan lebay..

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ane NGGAK ikut2an lagi. Biarkan Jend.Arto and his followers ENJOY the game to 3000. It's probably full of ENGINEERING. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message

Re: [ob] bumi 3000 done...!!!

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
PLEASE GO AHEAD and ENJOY the GAME. FOR ME THE SHOW HAS BEEN TOO RUDE. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:

Re: [ob] bumi 3000 done...!!!

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Apparently ICHING has been NOT OBJECTIVE anymore. Be careful, don't be too enthusiast. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: "ichingprediction" Da

Re: [ob] Re: Ahli Corporate Action tolong donk jelasin Convertible Bond...

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
I absolutely AGREE. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: "cipto_jh" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:34:38 To: Subject: [ob] Re: Ahli Corporate Action

[ob] Don’t Invest In The Stock Market

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bukan BOZZ aja bisa Contrarian .below opinion is against to what many people belief that Stock Market can make them "RICH".      Today’s Devil’s Advocate post is going to hit at the very heart of the financial sector. The stock market is one of the cornerstones of the American economy and on

[ob] Euro-Zone Prices Sink as Jobless Rate Ticks Up

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Articles from The Wall Street Journal.   By JOE PARKINSON and NICHOLAS WINNING JULY 31, 2009, 11:04 A.M. ET   LONDON-- The annual contraction in euro-zone consumer prices accelerated in July, increasing the risk of deflation as the 16-country region works to emerge from recession. Meanwhile, the

Re: [ob] Re: Ciputra aneh .....Research pak Yuga.....

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Memang cukup memprihatinkan LK beberapa Emiten BEI. Bahkan ada yang hingga sekarang LK Q1 belum juga dipublish. Kalau ngga salah CTRP termasuk salah satu emiten bersama INCO yang tidak membagi Dividen. Jadi selama ini investor hanya digerakan berdasarkan sentiment dan data Macro Economyseb

Re: [ob] 31 july.

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Namanya Humankind hampir jarang benar2 bisa objective. Karena proses progamming and conditioning yang dialami sejak kecil hingga dewasa baik dari lingkungan keluarga, pergaulan, kerja dan society (both domestic and international) dan juga the nature of human being itself. Orientasi pribadi ses

Re: [ob] [oot] KIAMAT 2012

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ini namanya DELUSION, atau contaminated thought,,they've been occupied by the very ordinary things outside themselves. So just go back to ourselves, try to balance the lives of ours with the UNIVERSE, with the reality and with the OTHERS. THERE IS NO END ONLY A TRANSFORMATION. Powere

Re: [ob] Re: Ciputra aneh .....Research pak Yuga.....

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
ANG. Management yg mewakili dan bekerja untuk kepentingan investor publik http://www.investdata.net/QWINCO.TXT http://www.investdata.net/QWSGRO.TXT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jacob oen wrote: > > Memang cukup memprihatinkan LK beberapa Emiten BEI. > > Bahkan ada yang

Re: [ob] tools sederhana

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau boleh ane kasih comment, hanya "Data Sahamku" dan "Bandar Bola" yang berani secara jelas merekomendasikan "Sell" atau "Buy" kalau yang lain CMIIAW serba tersamar + Discl ON lagi. Bisa Anda bayangkan berapa banyak email yg beredar di Milis Tercinta ini. Kalau bukan yg benar2 obvious, lucu

Re: [ob] Bandarmologi: Apakah segala galanya DIATUR ?

2009-08-01 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, TERNYATA di stock market lebih khusus lagi di BEI penuh dengan trick-trick yang mencengankan dan SHOW of FORCES dari para Bandar. Jadi teringat statement EL ...if you think that stock market is friendly, you are wrong. Mudah2an Algo trading kreasinya pak DE bisa membantu Trader kecil dan

[ob] To Mbah: KENAPA BUMI (BG) begitu diminati?

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Mbah, Di bawah ini Pertanyaan dari seorang amatir di stock market: 1. Kenapa BUMI begitu diminati sehingga menjadi saham yang paling besar nilai transaksinya? Apakah karena floating share terbesar? Apakah karena most volatile sehingga potensi Gain (loss) juga begitu besar? Atau apakah kare

Re: [ob] yakin minggu ini market masih naik...?

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
YAKIN? Any clue?...BHSH? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER AWAKE. TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVEN IF WE ARE ASLEEP. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:15 To: ob Subj

Re: [ob] BUMI AKAN KE 5000

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak T_Bumi, Just a simple question, Jika BUMI bisa tembus 5000 sampai akhir tahun berapa kira-kira harga emiten Batubara lain seperti : PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER AWAKE.

Re: Bls: [ob] JSMR - Cermati

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
But PER sdh 15, IS IT STILL WORTHY TO COLLECT? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER AWAKE. TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVEN IF WE ARE ASLEEP. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009

Re: [ob] BUMI AKAN KE 5000

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik jacob oen
"Pulih-nya" kepercayaan Investor akan praktek "GCG" itu dan masa depan BUMI? Thanks.  From: t_bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 9:06:03 AM Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI AKAN KE 5000   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoog

Re: [ob] Re: Alreat : Focus on STOCK

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Setelah CPIN mungkin ELSA, karena PER_nya masih di bawah 3, Net Profit 465B dan PBV 1.3. But back to Mr. BANDAR Plan, apakah mau dinaikin, dibiarkan sideways atau mau diturunkan. Just an opinion. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Orig

Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah pak/ibu kucing_liar1 cukup creative juga ya! Bisa nyaingin pak DE. Anda potensial jadi BANDAR. Hehehe Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Original Message- From: "kucing_liar1" Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:08:04 To: Subject: Re:

Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, I have no idea tentang PETOK itu jadi sy ignore, karena mungkin pak Hmin jarang2 kasih kode. Mungkin kalau sy sudah lama jadi OB member mungkin bisa memaknai itu sebagai kode. Dan sy setuju secara Fundamental CPIN bagus. Beberapa minggu lalu sy sempat punya posisi di CPIN tetapi keburu di

Re: [ob] inco

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak t_bumi, Boleh disikapi secara terbalik? Jika Anda mengatakan bahwa sebuah saham akan naik justru perlu dimaknai bahwa saham tersebut akan turun dalam waktu dekat? Hehehe Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Original Message-

Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
dahsyat, El aja yang kelas kaliber internasional menyempatkan dirinya masuk ke milis ini. sebenarnya yang lebih besar power of money nya dari EL itu banyak di milis ini. jadi kalo gak jelas jangan sembarangan belanja ya pak jacob. hehehe. regards, A9 gak lagi petok petok! --- In obrolan-bandar@ y

Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
k cuma jutaan perak saja). Hokie te it? :-) 2009/8/3 jacob oen > > > Pak Arto, > > Terima kasih atas reply-nya. > > Sebetulnya tidak perlu minta maaf karena tidak ada yang salah dari > posting-nya pak Arto. (Tetapi karena tradisi "Kesantunan" yang dimiliki

Re: Bls: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Not Bad. Tabungan buat OB Milis. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Original Message- From: "JT" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:33:34 To: Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready Uda…, BNBR bukan pilem.., jangan di tontonin aje…, a

Re: [ob] BD direcokin terus ama Papah Lauren

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sempat liat berita di Metro tv bahwa Mbah SURIP menghabiskan 5-6 bungkus rokok kretek setiap hari dan jarang minum air putih, lebih sering kopi. Tidak heran kalau penjualan rokok di Indonesia terus meningkat dan Asing begitu berminat untuk membeli perusahaan rokok di negeri ini. Sent from my Bl

Re: [ob] BD direcokin terus ama Papah Lauren

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
: "Jacob Oen" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:08:30 To: Subject: Re: [ob] BD direcokin terus ama Papah Lauren Sempat liat berita di Metro tv bahwa Mbah SURIP menghabiskan 5-6 bungkus rokok kretek setiap hari dan jarang minum air putih, lebih sering kopi. Tidak heran kalau penjuala

Re: [ob] DEWA - AKUMULASI BERAT : Gimana bedain akumulasi vs distribusi

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak boyz, Kalau Jend. Arto siapa yang bisa ngalahin? Tentu org yang ngga butuh duit dan idealist!!! Tapi zaman sekarang mana ada yg ngga butuh duit? Seorang Mistikus kalee. Hehehe... Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Kuat XL.

Re: [ob] ELSA: Incar kontrak US$ 146 JT

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
ELSA BUSINESS LOOKS VERY PROMISING. IT's TIME TO INVEST. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: Data Saham Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:4

Re: [ob] ELSA: Incar kontrak US$ 146 JT

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
:08:31 To: Subject: Re: [ob] ELSA: Incar kontrak US$ 146 JT ELSA kebanyakan berita bagus, tapi harga gak naik2. Keknya mau dijual aja nih barang ane. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob Oen" wrote: > > ELSA BUSINESS LOOKS VERY PROMISING. IT's TIME TO INVEST. &

Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ?

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mungkin hari ini banyak saham akan turun tetapi BUMI ditutup + sesuai prediksi ICHING. Hehehe Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- Fr

Re: [ob] Warning untuk member baru

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
OR FAR MORE.."I AM WACTHING YOU GUYS". Hehehe. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: "JT™" jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 5

[ob] BUMI Raup US$ 260 Juta dari Obligasi Enercoal

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik jacob oen
BUMI Raup US$ 260 Juta dari Obligasi Enercoal JAKARTA. Enercoal Pte Ltd, anak usaha PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) akhirnya merilis obligasi konversi atau convertible bond US$ 375 juta. Obligasi yang mendapat penjaminan penuh BUMI itu terbit dengan bunga 9,25% per tahun. Obligasi konversi itu

Re: [ob] Regional Ijo , Siapa yg kemaren Nyopet ??

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Yes Pak Hans. Di Asia selain Japan ada China, ada India dan Indonesia. China adalah penyokong utama US dalam program bailout-nya. China membeli sekitar USD.800 Bio US T-bill.  From: Hans Kwee To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8

Re: [ob] ADRO digoreng

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, Bukankah ADRO layak digoreng? Merujuk analysis dari CLSA, Fundamental ADRO sangat baik, mereka merekomendasikan BUY. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] ---

Re: [ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BNBR Kamis 06 Aug 09?

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
No problem.still good, very good indeed.!!! Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: "ichingprediction" Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:0

Re: [ob] VIVA Master-Master OB...!

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah Bu Fifi kelihatan sangat bersemangat dan berbunga-bunga hari ini. Memimjan ungkapan Mbah Surip.BEI hari iniEnak toh, Mantap toh, Asyik tohhahaha...hahaha Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will a

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: ENRG----> Prof JT

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sebetulnya ngga ada apa yang disebut nama baik. Yang ada adalah "Perbuatan BAIK" atau "Perbuatan Buruk" jadi nama tidak bisa dicemarkan karena netralhehehe Ane becanda Jenderal. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for s

Re: Bls: [ob] Elaine malu sekali

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Elaine malu sekalior.Elaine sekali malu? Up or down, and right or wrongit's always balance, harmony and serene. All as a matter of time, nothing more and nothing less. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, i

Re: [ob] EL, A9 :: Ini kode ya?

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Very good pak DE, Ketika kita keluar dari diri kita, semua menjadi "KEUNTUNGAN", semua menjadi "KEINDAHAN" dan semua menjadi penuh "KEDAMAIAN". Konsep diri yang statis, kaku dan artificial menjadi penghambat atas apa yang ditawarkan oleh "ALAM SEMESTA". LOL (Lots of love) and I LOVE YOU FULL

Re: [ob] Art, I want more

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
OB itu Obrolan Bandar atau Obrolan Bijak sih??? Yang jadi bintang di OB hari ini...Elaine dan Artomoro. Yang lain jadi supporter.   From: Rei To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 5:22:06 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Art, I want more   W

Re: [ob] Art, I want more

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
OB itu Obrolan Bandar atau Obrolan Bijak sih??? Yang jadi bintang di OB hari ini...Elaine dan Artomoro. Yang lain jadi supporter. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.]

Re: [ob] Ke gocek lagi cuy

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
“The only area of the world economy I know where the fundamentals are getting better is commodities,” investor Jim Rogers, chairman of Singapore-based Rogers Holdings, said in an interview. Commodity assets under management climbed by the second-largest amount in the second quarter, gaining $34

Re: HADIAH HUT TERBESAR KEMERDEKAAN RI Re: [ob] NOORDIN M TOP TEWAS ............ SENIN IHSG NGEBUTTTTTTTTTTTTT

2009-08-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dengan tertangkapnya (baca tewas) Gembong Terorist (the most wanted one) maka kepercayaan investor asing akan semakin meningkat apalagi Indonesia telah mampu menjalankan proses demokrasi (pemilu) secara dewasa, lancar dan Aman, diperkuat lagi dengan faktor adanya tanda2 pemulihan ekonomi Dunia,

Re: [ob] Re: Bos, TP Bumi berapa?

2009-08-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sounds very interesting!!! Kalau mungkin besok mau beli 10 lot Bumi di 3000, dan exercise menjelang IMLEK di 6000. Lumayan buat dana cadangan ANGPAO bagi Ponakan. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighte

Re: [ob] MYOR...

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau mau barang murah BLTA is strongly advised. Karena PER-nya bahkan masih < 1. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: M Herman Da

Re: [ob] How to Improve Your Trading Skill

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah jenaka juga pak Anru. Mungkin bukan cuma value seeker, tapi juga pride seeker. Hehehe.(Just kidding). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Mess

Re: [ob] MYOR...

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: lkm jkt Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:59:01 To: Subject: Re: [ob] MYOR... Pak . Jacob Bisa minta lap keu dari BLTA untuk Q2 2009 Lukman 2009/8/9 Jacob Oen > > > Kalau mau barang murah BLTA is stro

Re: [ob] Missing the Market Low

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Very nice video. The Bull Market has started and we're just sitting in the side line (kata Hitler)hehehe... From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:23:06 AM Subject: [ob] Missing the Market Low Hitler ma

Re: [ob] El: LOL

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
What does it mean Jend. Arto? Can you and have you turned it (I Love Indonesia) into reality? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From:

[ob] No Point in being dejected and glum. (A REFLECTION)

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik jacob oen
The cause of happiness is rare, And many are the seeds of suffering! But if I have no pain, I’ll never long for freedom; Therefore my mind, be steadfast! - Shantideva So come what may, I’ll not upset My cheerful happiness of mind. Dejection never brings me what I want; My virtue will be warped an

Re: [ob] Re: Asia is bullish and invincible (my decoupling theory is right)

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Just BOW. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: "ichingprediction" Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:08:37 To: Subject: [ob] Re: Asia is b

Re: [ob] ANTM INFO PLS

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Memang BISA-BISAnya BANDAR. Be careful small trader/investor.!!! Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: Rei Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 1

Re: [ob] OB Sepi ..???....Senior pada kemana yah..????

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Koreksi saham-saham BG hari ini apa ada hubungan dengan bakal digelarnya RAPIM Golkar? Atau hanya karena PT semata? Anyone knows? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.]

Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Pak Jhony, Welcome to OB Milis. Ulasan Anda menarik dan bermakna serta mengupas perspektif lain dari Dunia Pasar Modal Indonesia. Keep posting Pak. Thanks. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brig

Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Jika saya boleh urun-rembug, saya kurang sepakat bahwa besarnya kapitalisasi Pasar Modal bisa menjadi salah satu indikator pertumbuhan ekonomi nasional. Secara sederhana dapat dilihat ketika terjadi crash pasar modal mulai Q4, 2008 - Q1, 2009, pertumbuhan GDP Indonesia masih positif padahal Inde

Re: [ob] Re: Bebas mau milih Mega, JK atau >>SBY ... LANJUTKAN ................!!!

2009-06-28 Terurut Topik jacob oen
=> We wait for the magical moment - sometime in the future - when everything will be as we want it to be.   => Live your daily life in a way that you never lose yourself.   => When you are carried away with your worries, fears, craving, and desire, you run away from yourself and you lose yourself.

Re: [ob] GURITA BISNIS KALLA BROTHERS (Re: Kalau JK menang, ekonomi menghadapi bahaya

2009-06-28 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Pak t-bumi, kalau boleh saya tambahkan, sebetulnya tidak selamanya harus tidak anti, yang anti juga sangat boleh seperti:   => Anti KEMISKINAN & KEMELARATAN   => Anti Kebohongan   => Anti KKN   From: t_bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June

Re: [ob] ELSA: Raup Tambahan Dana Rp598 M

2009-06-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Saya pribadi sangat tertarik dengan saham ini, jika terjadi koreksi saya akan collect secara bertahap. For longterm ELSA business is very promising.  From: LC 14 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:07:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] ELSA:

Re: [ob] Beringin Tumbang di Tabanan

2009-06-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ini mungkin pertanda bahwa Common Sense dan Wisdom mulai dominan dan Takhyul mulai melemah di Bumi Indonesia ini. Hehehe. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Joe Grunk Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:12:31 To: ; Subject: [ob] Beringin Tumbang di Tabanan Juma

Re: [ob] Re: Window Dressing Juni 2008

2009-06-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Window dressing!. A strategy used by mutual fund and portfolio managers, (or BOZZ) near the year or quarter end to improve the appearance of the stocks/portfolio/fund performance before presenting it to clients or shareholders, (or prior to important event). Mudah-mudahan hal ini benar-benar

[ob] Some Tips for a Joyful Mind

2009-07-01 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mudah-mudahan bermanfaat!!! Some Tips for a Joyful Mind Don't wait in ambush. Don't wait for the moment when someone you don't like is weak to let them have it. This may bring immediate satisfaction, but in the long run, it poisons you. Don't malign others. You speak badly of others thinking it

Re: [ob] REGISTER NOW - NO WORKSHOP

2009-07-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wah jadi tergoda nih untuk ikut nimbrung. Mengingat peran "BANDAR(bozz)" sangat "DOMINAN" di BEI, apakah info yang akan dishare oleh pak JC adalah saham-saham yang akan digoreng? Yang dipastikan akan naik? kalau ya, kenapa tidak dicoba? Jika pak JC adalah "inner circle"-nya para BOZZ, it lo

Re: [ob] DPT bermasalah? Pilpres diundur? DPT ditolak KPU : "Lanjutkan"....Tunjukkan Nasionalisme...

2009-07-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
SPORTIFITAS tidak saja dibutuhkan di dunia olahraga dan business tetapi juga di bidang POLITIK. Sportifitas itu membanggakan dan menggembirakan. Sportifitas itu membebaskan dan melegakan. Sportifitas itu mendidik dan MENCERAHKAN. Dan Sportifitas itu memajukan dan MENUMBUHKAN. Jadi pilihannya

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: [obrolan-bandar] HIBURAN Fase DEPRESSION

2009-07-07 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sesuatu yang pasti hanyalah KeTIDAKpastian. Olehkarena itu Hidup menjadi lebih hidup, lebih bermakna dan lebih bergairah. Jadi terus saja membuat prediksi. Karena prediksi diperlukan hanya sebagai petunjuk, sebagai gagasan, sebagai alternatif dan kadang sebagai pendukung atas keputusan yang di

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: [obrolan-bandar] HIBURAN Fase DEPRESSION

2009-07-07 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
mas. --- Pada Sel, 7/7/09, Jacob Oen menulis: Dari: Jacob Oen Topik: Re: Bls: [ob] Re: [obrolan-bandar] HIBURAN Fase DEPRESSION Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 7 Juli, 2009, 8:20 AM Sesuatu yang pasti hanyalah KeTIDAKpastian. Olehkarena itu Hidup

[ob] Jika SBY Memenangkan PILPRES 1 Putaran

2009-07-07 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Obers, Jika SBY memenangkan PILPRES 1 Putaran, berapa kira2 kenaikan index BEI? 3%, 5% ataukah 10% ? Pertanyaan ini sifatnya hanya hipotesa. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: master download Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:18:24 To: Subject: Re: [ob] Pilpres a

Re: [ob] syarat 1 putaran

2009-07-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
1. Perolehan suara Nasional di atas 50%. 2. Dan Perolehan suara minimal 20% di 17 Provinsi. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: kusu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:13:29 To: Subject: Re: [ob] syarat 1 putaran berat Memang cukup di atas 50% di seluruh pr

Re: [ob] Ngarep10%.com

2009-07-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau sebagian besar rakyat Indonesia mampu mewujudkan PILPRES hanya 1 putaran, masa BOZZ tidak mampu mendongkrak kenaikan index BEI 10%, apalagi avg.PER BEI masih cukup favaroble. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Matt Nowo" Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:21:25

Re: [ob] to elaine...

2009-07-09 Terurut Topik jacob oen
It's OK Jend. Arto, let them do it. Rakyat Indonesia sudah jauh lebih demokratis dari Bangsa Asing (khususnya tetangga kita), kalau asing kabur (don't expect they have a compassionate heart), kita investor lokal akan siap nampung...karena kita sangat yakin akan prospek ekonomi Indonesia. Kita

Re: [ob] Satu putaran no effect

2009-07-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
It's OK that today index was not as good as expected. But what about next 3, 6, 12 months? Can BEI make a new high? No doubt! I believe with a clean and committed leader, Indonesian stock market will be one of the best among its region. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message-

Re: [ob] 1600 is just a matter of time

2009-07-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
No problem.! It will give more space to accumulate at lower cost. And it's a matter of time as well that BEI index will make a new high. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Kidod25" Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:36:13 To: Subject: [ob] 1600 is just a matter of time

Re: [ob] Kehabisan good news?

2009-07-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
If I may commentthis is a professional principle. What I believe that everyone should contribute and add value to the organization where she/he works, to the community where he/she lives and to the country in which he/she become a citizen. Love and hate is a changing feeling. And as long

Re: [ob] Identifikasi Trend - Hati hati dengan penggunaan Statistic Tools

2009-07-10 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Absolutely agree with you pak DE. Karena di BEI, sekali lagi di BEI terlalu banyak kepentingan yang terlibat dan bermain.maka coan menjadi makin sulit diraih apalagi bagi trader/investor kecil. Hal-hal yg kurang bisa diterima akal sehat bisa terjadi di BEI. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

Re: [ob] New message from ELAINE di Facebook

2009-07-10 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Di bawah ini adalah posting beberapa minggu lalu yang menurut saya mungkin masih cukup relavan dengan situasi Bursa saat ini. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Ruz7" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:40:00 To: Subject: Re: [ob] New message from ELAINE di Facebook L

Re: [ob] Ihsg duluan ke 2320 atau ke 1782, time frame sampai 20 july 2009.

2009-07-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah hebat nih Jenderal kita, masih mau belajar dan mampu nyerap ilmu TA. Btw, mestinya BOZZ ngangkat dulu index ke 2320. There must be a party (read: optimism). Bukan kah Pilpres bakal 1 putaran? Kalau bicara harga minyak dan komo yg cendrung turun (naik) bukan kah ini juga part of BOZZ's strat

Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-12 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
This is what we call a Balancing. There is always bearish and bullish. There is always up and down. There is always like and dislike. There is rich and poor. And there is light and dark. If humankind is unable to balance the life of theirs, the Universe will take charge to do so. Hence, keep d

Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-12 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau liat gaya tulisannya si EL, dia kemungkinan besar Woman. Hehehe... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "JT™" Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:21:50 To: OB Group Subject: Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW Haha.., salah tulis lagi..., untung bukan urusan pantat l

Re: [ob] Trading Diary: Markets Warn Of Correction

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
It's neutral and just a prediction. Nothing more, nothing less. Even worse when Dow touched 6500 in early March, an analyst if I'm not mistaken from WSJ said that Dow will make a new low at 5000 and S&P500 at 500,, but the fact was Dow rebound to 8500. In stock market none will predict correct

[ob] Are You Unhappy With Who You Are? (1 Minute Wisdom)

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ketika Kita Penat Melihat Situasi Stock Market.Mudah2an Kutipan di bawah dapat Memberi sedikit Kelegaan dan Pencerahan. ARE YOU UNHAPPY WITH WHO YOU ARE? Looking for Big Suit? Or Beautiful Suit? Or Eloquent or Rich or Intelligent or Suave or? You know, we could fill up a whole warehous

Re: [ob] Selamat utk yg sudah buy and masih hold

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Correct! IDX will make a new high record within next 12 months. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rei Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:39:47 To: Subject: Re: [ob] Selamat utk yg sudah buy and masih hold Inpes pak...inpes...[?] kan dah niat.Jgn dilihat harian [?] ta

Re: [ob] jangan kasi el barang

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Where to go? No place to go, just go back to ourselves. Hehehe... And, don't you think that you are surrounded by nice pepole like: Jend. Arto, Mr. JT, pak Hans, pak Rei and OB members? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:22

Re: [ob] jangan kasi el barang

2009-07-14 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
No, she is not a trader nor investor, She is a Big Profit Maker. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "JT" Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:05:52 To: Subject: RE: [ob] jangan kasi el barang No, she's not an investor., she's a trader with longer time frame., we call it

Re: [ob] Edan euy...! 2105 ditembusin...!

2009-07-15 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
IDX Kembali Menemukan Jati Dirinya. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Tasrul" Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:01:46 To: Subject: RE: [ob] Edan euy...! 2105 ditembusin...! EL pasti udah belanja Bu Fifi, makanya hari ini gak nongol...hihi ___

Re: [ob] Be Careful of PYFA

2009-07-16 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
This is very beneficial info. Pls keep posting this kind of info to prevent OB member from becoming a victim of violent Bandar. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "datasahamku" Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:44:05 To: Subject: Re: [ob] Be Careful of PYFA Sell PYFA

[ob] YANG MEMBUNUH (berbasa-basi sejenak)

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ketika berlangsung sebuah pertemuan akbar untuk memprotes pendirian pabrik BOM Nuklir, Sang Guru dan para muridnya terlihat dalam kerumunan itu. Tepuk tangan riuh menyambut pernyataan, "Bom membunuh manusia!" Sang Guru menggelengkan kepala dan berguman, "Itu tidak benar, Manusia membunuh manusia

Re: [ob] GEROMBOLAN LIAR - Go Ahead

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
GL or Non GL, FM, Bozz, investor and daily traderthey all are part of the game, yang terpenting kita investor/trader kecil jangan sampai menjadi korban mereka. Jadi informasi penting atau peringatan dini dari para Senior OB seperti Pak Oentoeng, Jend. Arto, Pak JC, Mr. Bandar Bola, Mr. Dat

Re: [ob] GEROMBOLAN LIAR - Go Ahead

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
smi.. Peace deh.. Powered by willtosurvive -Original Message----- From: "Jacob Oen" Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:39:10 To: Subject: Re: [ob] GEROMBOLAN LIAR - Go Ahead GL or Non GL, FM, Bozz, investor and daily traderthey all are part of the game, yang terpenting kita investor/t

Re: [ob] Ada yg mengaitkan BOM dgn PILPRES

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Statemen SBY kemarin bisa memunculkan multi tafsir. Dari pihak Presiden tentu ada alasan untuk membuat pernyataan seperti itu. Tetapi dari pihak lain (kontestan pilpres lain) juga punya alasan untuk menyanggah dan mengomentari statemen tersebut. Yang terpenting, yang diharapkan oleh Rakyat dar

Re: [ob] Hukuman Tepat Buat Teroris

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
The following are taken from the essence of Wisdom Teaching; "The man who perform evil acts, suffer in both worlds. He suffers the results of his act in this world and he suffers in dreading the vicissitudes of the next world. Such is the fate of the evil doer." "Listen now to an Eternal Law of

Re: [ob] Re: World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-20 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah Jenderal kita memang selalu low profile dan seorang Man of action. Ini bukan gossip, bukan issue apalagi Rumors. he he he Ditunggu Komando selanjutnya, perkara benar atau salah...bukan masalah, yang penting Jenderal berani kasih Komando. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original M

Re: [ob] Re: JK Kok (Sepertinya) Anti Pasar Modal Ya..??

2009-06-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Statement Pak JK tidak lebih hanya untuk sebuah "Image Differentiation". He tries to differentiate himself from the incumbent. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Kidod25" Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:30:18 To: Subject: [ob] Re: JK Kok (Sepertinya) Anti Pasar Moda

Re: [ob] Mohon Bantuan Voting...!

2009-06-06 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Done Bu Fifi, semoga putri-nya sukses ya!. From: fifi young To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 10:12:27 PM Subject: [ob] Mohon Bantuan Voting...! Mbah, please, please, please... nih 'kan week end, boleh dong minta teman teman

Re: [ob] Re: MAKIN NYATA MINYAK AKAN KE $75 - $80, REZEKI BAGI BUMI

2009-06-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Minyak selalu mempunyai NILAI POLITIS disamping NILAI EKONOMIS. Olehkarena itu dibutuhkan usaha-usaha dan kemauan yang sungguh2 untuk mencari energy alternatif sehingga ketergantungan terhadap Minyak Bumi bisa dikurangi. From: FromBuitenzorg To: obrolan-banda

[ob] REALITAS OBJEKTIF (Berbasa-basi Sejenak)

2009-06-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Seorang filsuf memberikan uraian panjang lebar mengenai "realitas objektif" kepada Sang Guru.   Kata Sang Guru, "Yang engkau ketahui itu bukan realitas, melainkan persepsimu atas realitas. Yang engkau alami itu bukan dunia, melainkan keadaan pikiranmu sendiri.   "Dapatkah realitas benar-benar di

Re: [ob] Re: bumi & pagar bumi 2200

2009-06-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mr. t-bumi, Boleh saya tahu berapa kira-kira Dividen thn 2008 yang bakal dibagikan? Dan kapan diputuskan? Appreciate your reply. Thanks. From: t_bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 9:46:35 AM Subject: [ob] Re: bumi & pagar bum

Re: [ob] DEWA tiba2 melejit ada apa ya ?

2009-06-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sekedar share, tadinya beli dewa di 235, XXX lot, gara2 pemaparan hasil MAPPI ditunda akhirnya CL hari jumad di 220. Tough Luck. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:34:28 To: Subject: Re: [ob] DEWA tiba2 melejit ada apa ya ?

Re: Bls: [ob] MAPPI apaan sih ?

2009-06-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Full of vested interest!!!. Does it indicate the best practice of GCC ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Ned Putra Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:32:16 To: Subject: Bls: [ob] MAPPI apaan sih ? Hasil MAPPI Berpeluang Direvisi Mosi Retnani Fajarwati INILAH.COM, Jaka

Re: Bls: [ob] MAPPI apaan sih ?

2009-06-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Full of vested interest. Does it indicate the best practice of GCG ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Jacob Oen" Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:53:11 To: Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] MAPPI apaan sih ? Full of vested interest!!!. Does it indicate the best p

Re: [ob] Index Dowjones diselamatkan Paul Krugman ---> pak Ekonombeling

2009-06-09 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bagaimana prediksi IMF tidak berubah? Karena ternyata mereka belum tahu secara persis "How strong the economy of this country is". > Penduduk bisa mencapai 240 JT. > Sumber Daya Alam yang sangat berlimpah > Demokrasi berjalan baik > Menganut system devisa (yg sangat) bebas > Konsumerisme sangat m

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