[ob] KOMPETISI (berbasa-basi sejenak)

2009-05-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Sang Guru memaparkan buruknya kompetisi. "Bukankah kompetisi menghasilkan hal terbaik dari diri kita?" tanya seseorang kepada Sang Guru. "Kompetisi menghasilkan yang paling buruk, karena kompetisi mengajarimu untuk membenci." "Membenci apa?" "Pertama, membenci dirimu sendiri-karena kamu membi

[ob] CARA PANDANG (berbasa-basi sejenak, 2)

2009-05-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
"Sebagaimana engkau memandang, begitulah juga engkau bertindak. Yang perlu diubah bukan tindakanmu, melainkan pandanganmu ujar Sang Guru." "Apa yang harus saya lakukan untuk mengubahnya? "Pahamilah bahwa cara pandangmu yang sekarang ini tidak sempurna."  From

Re: [ob] Prof JT: To Bearish Lover

2009-05-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Pak DE, Kalau labelnya diganti dengan SBY-BerBoedi, JK-Win atau Mega-Pro, bisa? Ada peloeang tuh!!! hehehe... From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 11:43:30 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Prof JT: To Bearish Lover [1

Re: Bls: [ob] PILIH MANA ?

2009-05-23 Terurut Topik 0en Jacob
Sy prefer CTRP, rationale: 1. sound Mgmt. 2. PER < 10. 3. EPS > 30. 4, DER < 1X. 5. Cost effective. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Asep Buhori Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 18:03:56 To: Subject: Bls: [ob] PILIH MANA ? kl gw BKSL aja, soale "gurunya" temen gw la

Re: [ob] Mega Berani Target Pertumbuhan Ekonomi 10 Persen

2009-05-23 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Untuk memperkaya wacana tentang kepemimpinan yang hebat (what makes a great leader?), berikut ini saya kutip dari "The Handbook for Leaders" by John H. Zenger (McGraw-Hill Professional Education) for our reference: 1. Character(Attitudes => Behavior => Character), leaders with character fol

Re: [ob] Re: TRUB--> 22 PLTU di Luar Jawa Siap Dibangun

2009-05-23 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Why Truba 2008 financial report has not been released yet? is there anything wrong with this emiten? Bagaimana peran Otoritas IDX ??? Wah agak merepotkan nih bagi investor kecil (retail) yang coba berinvest di pasar modal tetapi sulit mengakses data-data financial __

Re: Bls: [ob] PILIH MANA ? >>> INDF gimana Bill?

2009-05-23 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Dear Billy, Apakah Fundamental INDF bagus? dengan DER (debt to equity ratio) > 3X  yang berarti hutang 3X lebih besar dibandingkan modal, dan NPM (net profit margin) yang hanya 1.24% yang berarti bahwa kemampuan mencetak laba sangat rendah... Apakah ada faktor lain yang menyebakan nilai sah

Re: Bls: [ob] PILIH MANA ? >>> INDF gimana Bill?

2009-05-23 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Billy, I agree with you. Previously, I'm confident with INDF jika dilihat dari bisnisnya...Mie, Milk, Terigu dan sekarang CPO...semuanya dibutuhkan apalagi bagi Indonesia yg jumlah penduduknya sekitar 230 JT.tetapi dengan NPM yang hanya 1.3 - 5.0 %  , it shows that the overhead cost-ny

Re: [ob] Boediono : Pemerintah Hasil Pemilu 2009 Harus Bersih

2009-05-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bangsa Indonesia pasti akan sangat beruntung memiliki sosok pemimpin seperti ini.   "Walk with the talk and lead by example"   From: nicholas alvin To: ob Obrolan bandar Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:12:04 PM Subject: [ob] Boediono : Pemerintah Hasil Pemi

Re: [ob] Pengaruh KEBIJAKAN ekonomi dan index

2009-05-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Saya percaya bahwa sebagian besar Rakyat Indonesia cukup kritis dan cerdas dalam memilih Pemimpin mereka. 2004 adalah pemilihan langsung pertama dan Rakyat Indonesia telah membuktikan itu. 2009 adalah pemilihan langsung kedua dan Rakyat Indonesia akan terus mampu membuktikan itu. SoLANJUT

Re: Bls: [ob] PILIH MANA ? >>> INDF gimana Bill?

2009-05-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
n bagiin devidennya juga tidak terlalu besar. siapa tahu ngutangnya juga ke bank group sendiri itu namanya keluar kantong kanan masuk kantong kiri atau kebalik he..3x --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jacob oen wrote: > > Dear Billy, > > Apakah Fundamental INDF bagus? dengan DER

Re: [ob] PTBA

2009-05-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Thanks pak Hans, this is a valuable info. From: Hans To: metastock...@yahoogroups.com; amibroker...@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com; milis-a...@yahoogroups.com; bei-investorclub-...@yahoogroups.comSent: Mon

Re: [ob] CRASH...........I wish My Hope will be true.. 1600 in 1,5 Month

2009-05-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
It's truly possible. From: elvira raven To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:39:22 AM Subject: [ob] CRASH...I wish My Hope will be true.. 1600 in 1,5 Month [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from elvira raven included below]

Re: [ob] Hang Nasional ...........!!!

2009-05-25 Terurut Topik 0en Jacob
Sayang ya! Menemukan orang2 yg IDEALIST di zaman sekarang semakin tidak mudah. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: riil_inves...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:20:51 To: OB Subject: Re: [ob] Hang Nasional ...!!! Sebenarnya SRO (BEI, KSEI dan KPEI) bi

[ob] From Slot Machine to Stock Market ( By Dr. John C. Maxwell )

2009-05-25 Terurut Topik jacob oen
A truly inspiring article below:   >From Slot Machine to Stock Market: Investment Strategies for Relationships By Dr. John C. Maxwell   In the early years of my career, I did not have a correct view of life. I approached life as if it were a slot machine. I wanted to put as little as possible int

Re: [ob] Indonesia Leads Asian Gain on DBS, Allianz Vote Bets

2009-05-25 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Pak DE is creative person (lucu juga ya tulisan nyanyian di bawah ini ) saya jadi teringat karikatur-nya OM PASIKOM di harian KOMPAS. hehehe... From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:22:54 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [ob] Billy - Amazing Boy

2009-05-26 Terurut Topik 0en Jacob
ng essence when interacting with others and even with ourselves. Rgds, Jacob Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: indra devista Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:59:08 To: Subject: Re: [ob] Billy - Amazing Boy wakakakaaa... sakit perut baca nih tulisan. good job sir Salam D7 -

Re: [ob] jsx for today - TEKA TEKI group AB

2009-05-27 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Analysis MBAH dan Jend. ARTO is most likely CORRECT. From: artomoro9 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:26:37 PM Subject: Re: [ob] jsx for today - TEKA TEKI group AB "index yg diangkat dan withdrawal pada group Bakrie."

[ob] Nice QUOTES (pada saat Situasi Politik Memanas & BURSA Datar)

2009-05-27 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Poise "The more tranquil a man becomes, the greater is his success, his influence, his power for good. Calmness of mind is one of the beautiful jewels of wisdom." ~ James Allen "Whenever you get into a jam, whenever you get into a crisis or an emergency, become the calmest person in the room and

Re: [ob] JK-WIN Menang, BEI Bakal Ditutup

2009-05-28 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Maaf, mungkin terlewatkan oleh saya. Selama ini saya tidak pernah membaca atau mendengar "JK" menyampaikan kalau dia memenangkan PILPRES, salah satu dari agenda-agenda utama.. yaitu membangun "PEMERINTAHAN YANG BERSIH dan BEBAS KKN (BEBAS DARI KONFLIK KEPENTINGAN).    ___

Re: [ob] Banyak yg nyangkut di TRUB di 190 ya...!!!!!

2009-05-29 Terurut Topik jacob oen
UNBELIEVABLE!!! Ternyata peran "BANDAR" sangat dominan di BEJ. From: JsxTrader™ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:23:49 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Banyak yg nyangkut di TRUB di 190 ya...! Haha.., lu mau ngeledek gua ya!..., ee,

Re: Bls: SCENARIO BESAR.........Re: [ob] Deviden Info

2009-05-29 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Saya setuju dengan pendapat Mbah bahwa market sekarang masuk dalam "PSYCHOLOGICAL CONDITIONING"   Kelihatannya Bandar sangat paham bahwa hampir semua orang khususnya retailer mengharapkan adanya "koreksi" cukup dalam mengingat index sudah naik cukup tinggi.   Saya pribadi akan wait n see dalam 1

Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.........Pak Oentoeng, help

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Pak DE, The picture is really fantastic. Bisa-bisa saja!!!. Regards, JO From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:34:38 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.Pak Oentoeng, help Bullishnya nyungsep y

Re: [ob] INDF bisa naik gara2 SBY SELERAKU nih...................

2009-05-31 Terurut Topik 0en Jacob
Sekarang nampaknya semakin terang2an para pengusaha dalam mendukung pasangan capres dan cawapres...it's OK sepanjang hal itu muncul dari sebuah IDEALISME untuk membangun Indonesia yg lebih baik dan bermartabat. SEMOGA.!!! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ricky

Re: [ob] Re: Apa Kesimpulan buat senen? ---> SAFE TRADING

2009-05-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Menurut saya, melihat kesadaran masyarakat meningkat akan bahaya merokok (health consciousness) dan ditambah adanya peraturan pemerintah yang membatasi untuk TIDAK MEROKOK di lingkup publik, maka prospect perusahaan rokok ke depan akan menjadi semakin penuh tantangan Jadi sangat mungkin bah

Re: [ob] Re: Apa Kesimpulan buat senen? ---> SAFE TRADING

2009-05-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Apakah kenaikan BMRI dan ASII adalah merupakan TANDA-TANDA Alam? From: James Arifin To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 10:15:27 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Apa Kesimpulan buat senen? ---> SAFE TRADING Kalu semua tunggu koreksi sek

Re: [ob] Re: Apa Kesimpulan buat senen? ---> SAFE TRADING

2009-05-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Kalau melihat situasi seperti ini mending jadi penonton untuk sementara (bagi trader/investor kecil), sembari baca buku Stephen Jenkinson tentang "MONEY and the SOUL'S DESIRES:. Money is a gift. Not "how much" money. Not "whose" money. Not "having" or "not having" money. The fact of money,

[ob] Is it true that IDX rely-on STI?

2009-05-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mbah, Apakah benar IDX lebih mengikuti (mengekor) STI ???   Secara sepintas saya melihat adanya kemiripan (lebih mirip) pergerakan IDX dengan STI. Sejak peak-nya IDX, perbedaan antara STI dan IDX -/+ 400 points.dan ini berlanjut hingga sekarang. Olehkarena itu apakah "the reall BOZZ " IDX 

Re: [ob] Re: OK, EVRYBODY I'M SELL STARTING NOW......

2009-05-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Jikalau Trader/Insvestor kecil tidak dikasih SPACEoleh BANDAR dan mempertimbangkan juga faktor risk & reward (sesuai saran Mbah) maka untuk sementara kita focus aja dulu ke sektor RILRIL...RIL From: Kabu Nusi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogr

Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.........

2009-06-01 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Ternyata BANDAR mampu menyihir para retailer dengan Bullish Mood. And they will maintain their label as Market Maker (BIG GUYS) no matter how big its cost. From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:45:30 PM Subject:

Re: [ob] masa gak berani beli bumi..?

2009-06-01 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Yang benar Jend Arto? Ane sih berani aja soalnya pernah nyangkut lumayan banyak sebelumnya. Btw, kalau ane beli buat invest apa yakin 10 thn lagi BUMI masih exist?  From: artomoro9 To: ob Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:01:09 PM Subject: [ob] masa gak berani be

Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.........

2009-06-01 Terurut Topik jacob oen
What's wrong (baca right) with ANTM? PER-nya aja sudah 61masih ada yang mau ngejar?   From: Felicia Rumondor To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 3:30:57 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR. wah embah lagi semangat

Re: [ob] SCENARIO BESAR.........Pak Oentoeng, help

2009-06-01 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wah hebat tuh Jend Arto. Cuman kadang kurang jelas kode-nya (apa karena ane baru join OB milis jadi perlu jam terbang dulu). Againstock market sometimes is unbelieavble!!! Probably the best way to please myself is to think that this time (bullish mode) is not my turn.  ___

Re: [ob] Boss DE Lagi Apa?

2009-06-01 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah untuk sementara pak DE blm bisa tampilkan joke2 segar lagi dong. Btw, semoga cepat sembuh ya anaknya. Regards, Jacob Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dean Earwicker Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:14:54 To: Subject: Re: [ob] Boss DE Lagi Apa? Gpp, kata doktr

Re: [ob] Percayakah BUMI ke 3000?

2009-06-02 Terurut Topik jacob oen
k memimpin BUMI (and Share Holders will take necessary actions upon it).    Mudah-mudahan harapan dari para investor kecil yang mungkin sejalan dengan Mr. t_bumi dan Jend. Arto dapat terwujud. Regards, Jacob From: Halim Perdana To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroup

Re: [ob] RE: Cari Duit Di BEI Gampang Apa Susah..??

2009-06-02 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Sebetulnya untuk menghibur diri (kadang2 lucu menurut saya) kita perhatikan saja email name dari teman-teman di OB Milis...sebagai contoh ada:   Cumi2, nyari duit, lucky trader, orang sabar, cleopatras, TJ, PisangRaja, Dukun JSX...dan banyak lagi lainnya...hehehe.. From: Lucky Trader To

Re: [ob] RE: Cari Duit Di BEI Gampang Apa Susah..??

2009-06-02 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mudah-mudahan ada hubungan! Tetapi saya baru tau beliau sejak join di milis ini sebulan yang lalu. From: "CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)" To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:42:16 PMSubject: Re: [ob] RE: Cari Duit Di BEI Gampang Apa Susah..?? jacob oen ada hubunga

Re: [ob] OOT : NEWS UPDATE : PRITA HARI INI BEBAS

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Ini salah satu bukti bahwa peran Pers, Milis, Face Book, Media electronic, Media On Line dan para pencinta kebenaran sangat bermanfaat dan effective dalam menyuarakan dan memperjuangkan kebenaran. Semoga keadilan dan kebenaran terus terpelihara di Bumi Indonesia tercinta ini.   _

Re: [ob] 09:15 Milis ada gangguan ?

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Woow, is this time to buy? At least BOZZ start giving a little space for small trader/investor to accumulate the most appealing stocks. Hehehe... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Ricky Wakiman" Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:08:40 To: Milis OB Subject: Re: [ob] 0

Re: [ob] Bernanke Warns Long-Term Deficits Threaten Financial Stability

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
“Unless we demonstrate a strong commitment to fiscal sustainability in the longer term, we will have neither financial stability nor healthy economic growth,” Bernanke’s comments signal that the central bank sees risks of a relapse into financial turmoil even as credit markets show signs of s

Re: [ob] FastNet + Indicator BD

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mbah, Kebetulan saya menggunakan fasnet dan sejak pagi OK-OK aja (alias reliable). Pengalaman saya biasanya kalau ada gangguan dan complain ke CS mereka cukup responsive. From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:1

Re: [ob] CS top seller BUMI n ADRO

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wah, kesempatan beli BUMI < Rp.2000. Not too bad.!!! From: Vernichtung To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:25:35 AM Subject: Re: [ob] CS top seller BUMI n ADRO BUMI n ADRO lagi didump? On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matt

[ob] Harapan Rakyat Kecil bagi ketiga Pasang CAPRES-CAWAPRES

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Munculnya kasus ibu Prita mendapat perhatian khalayak ramai termasuk ketiga CAPRES, olehkarena itu saya coba menyampaikan aspirasi atau harapan saya (yang mungkin juga harapan dari masyarakat luas) melaui OB milis (thanks mbah untuk kesempatan ini): 1. Perhatian dari ketiga CAPRES ini diharapka

[ob] Harapan Rakyat Kecil bagi ketiga Pasang CAPRES-CAWAPRES

2009-06-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Munculnya kasus ibu Prita mendapat perhatian khalayak ramai termasuk ketiga CAPRES, olehkarena itu saya coba menyampaikan aspirasi atau harapan saya (yang mungkin juga harapan dari masyarakat luas) melaui OB milis (thanks mbah untuk kesempatan ini): 1. Perhatian dari ketiga CAPRES ini diharapka

Re: [ob] Re: HONESTLY : I AM NOT A BD or Bandar

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ini mirip dgn analysis JP. Morgan ttg PGAS, begitu TP dinaikan menjadi 4ribu hampir semua org percaya dan berlomba-lomba beli sehingga harganya naik. It's a matter of demand and supply. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "elis_wahyu" Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:

Re: [ob] Re: .....U R THE BOZZ ......... !!!!!

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sorry Mbah, klu boleh tanya "who is the BOZZ" and what's his ultimate motive behind his actions? Not to the point answer is acceptable. Thanks, Dari Pemula yg mencoba peruntungan di stock market. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "jsx_consultant" Date: Thu,

Re: [ob] Re: .....U R THE BOZZ ......... !!!!!

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Thanks mbah atas penjelasannya. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "jsx_consultant" Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:50:50 To: Subject: [ob] Re: .U R THE BOZZ . ! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob Oen" wrote: > &

Re: [ob] tanya Cum date PTBA kapan,??

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Cum date PTBA 18 June, 2009. From: Rei To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 10:08:39 AM Subject: Re: [ob] tanya Cum date PTBA kapan,?? Nah itu blm tahu...ntar saya cari info dulu. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:02 AM, B_ND wrote:

Re: [ob] Grup BG dikacangin zzz

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mungkin saja ini strategy_nya BD Bumi membuat investor/trader kecil tdk sabar dan akhirnya CL. Dan switch ke antm/tins yg naiknya tinggi stlh itu harga antm/tins dibanting dan Bumi dinaikan. Mudah-mudahan. Stock market is full of tricky movement. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Origi

[ob] USD/IDR Falls Below 10,000 On Fund Inflows

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik jacob oen
FYI... DJ MARKET TALK: USD/IDR Falls Below 10,000 On Fund Inflows 0425 GMT [Dow Jones] USD/IDR for 1st time since Oct. 28 falls below 10,000, amid strong capital inflows; now at 9,980 vs 10,125 last close. "After the dollar's break of 10,000 I think it will stay below there for the rest of the

RE: [ob] PGAS

2009-04-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Hi Pak,   Kalau boleh ikut nimbrung, mau nanya Pgas secara fundamental OK ngga? soalnya hingga sekarang financial report thn 2008 aja belum keluar, klu untuk long-term layak di-collect?   Thanks. --- On Thu, 4/30/09, JsxTrader wrote: From: JsxTrader Subject: RE: [ob] PGAS To: obrolan-bandar@

Re: [ob] PGAS: A Powerful Gas Transmission and Distribution Company

2009-05-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
  Mungkin yg dimaksud oleh article di bawah ini bahwa "Pgas" memiliki "comparative advantage" dibandingkan dengan Turki dan Ukraina.     Apa yang terjadi pada Ukraina dan Turki menunjukkan bahwa > posisi sebagai perantara yang seolah-olah kuat dan tidak tergantikan > itu ternyata bisa dengan mudah

Re: [ob] Yaaahhh...koq BUMI kalah ma ANTM seeehhh???

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mudah2an Bumi ditutup di 2025. BUMI's victory will be back soon. From: Yanuar Mustofa To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:25:55 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Yaaahhh...koq BUMI kalah ma ANTM seeehhh???   Udah dijawab doanya tuhh Bu... noc

Re: Bls: [ob] hajar kanan BUMI...!

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
This is GREAT General!!!. At least, lessen my potential loss...hehehe.. From: artomoro9 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:07:05 PM Subject: Bls: [ob] hajar kanan BUMI...!   ihsg +40 (2146) bumi close 2050 ( naik 9%) lumay

Re: [ob] BBKP... CnH bukan... ?

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Time to invest. PER is still < 6, while other Banks are much higher (expensive). From: Hans Kwee To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:35:04 AM Subject: [ob] BBKP... CnH bukan... ?   Cakep pak sy lihat ini pola C& H kita harus tu

Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Since you can't control the market (except BIG BOZZ probably) why should the crowd be following you?   Market are now more "LOGICAL". They've got the important lesson that "FEAR" is only creating more suffering. To be greedy...of course is not wise enough.     Let's keep the optimism ALIVE since we

Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Pak G-Man, Ulasan Anda menarik dan sangat rasional. Sekecil apapun kalau digabung/disatukan dan bergerak ke satu arah pasti memiliki daya (Power) yang luar biasa. Sebagai contoh: kumpulan semut sekalipun dapat memindahkan Bola atau kumpulan titik-titik air bisa menjadi sebuah Danau/Sungai. Be

[ob] Stocks Are Cheap! Bull Sees Dow 10,000 By Year-End

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Stocks Are Cheap! Bull Sees Dow 10,000 By Year-EndPosted Jul 22, 2009 12:00pm EDT by Peter Gorenstein in Investing Related: ^dji, ^GSPC, , kre, xlf, skf Stocks are cheap -- very cheap, says Brian Wesbury, chief economist with First Trust Advisors. In fact, Wesbury says the market is trading

[ob] The Economy Is Much Stronger Than the Media Says

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wesbury: The Economy Is Much Stronger Than the Media SaysPosted Jul 22, 2009 09:51am EDT by Aaron Task Related: ^DJI, ^GSPC, SPY, DIA, TLT, XLF, TBT There's a growing consensus the economy will start growing again later this year but 2010 will be characterized by subpar growth. That consensus is

Re: [ob] gantian. ngomongin artomoro aja..

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
This is a good idea Jenderall.!!! Kalau harga Bumi bisa 3000 sebelum 16 Aug, 5(*) Bintang buat Jend. Arto. Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:01:42 To: ob Subject: [ob] gantian. ngomongin artomoro aja.. gan

[ob] To Jend. Arto => BUMI, 3 hari Yang MemBOSANkan ???

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bumi, 3 hari yang membosankan (2050, 2025, 2050). Naik nggak, turun tidak. Panas nggak, dingin tidak. Maju ngga, Mundur tidak. Jalan di tempat, atau sideways, atau konsolidasiatau mungkin-kah situasi ini merupakan gambaran yang tersamar dari apa yang disebut "OPortunis Tulen"??? hehehe.

Re: [ob] Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Jend Arto, If no one knows what will happen tomorrow? So, just enjoy the game, live the life to the fullest and embrace what the universe will present to us.    Sometimes, we are more than enough to what we need necessarily, but we're always deficient to what we desire for... hehehe. 

Re: [ob] Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jika boleh saya tambahkan, yang perlu masuk dalam list Mbah atau boyz's list adalah "Data Saham" dan "Bandar Bola" karena mereka mampu memberi peringatan dini ke OBers agar tidak menjadi korban dari gerombolan liar (memijam istilah pak Jack Cowok). Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® Whether ther

Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Judge knowledge by how effective it is, not by how difficult it is to acquire. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®. Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpetuates suffering. -Original Message- From: "VF ™" vnnfortuna...@rocketmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Jul

Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%). Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®. Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpet

Re: [ob] Mengapa berfikir akan terjadi crash/rally down/big koreksi ?

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Below is a provocative question!!! Jend. Arto, Keep it simplecan you drive BUMI price up to 3000 before Aug 17, 2009? ASII, BBRI, PGAS, all have been back to its price before crisis!!! Jangan kan 1/2 dari harga tertinggi BUMI(8500), 30% saja belum juga tercapai. BUMI is the most liquid sto

Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Tunggu 3000. Jend. Arto and the honored group will make it happen before Aug 17, 2009. Will see it. From: JT To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:55:41 AM Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???   Al

Re: [ob] bad joke..!

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto could be wrong, and no one is free from making mistake. But what matter most is no hidden agenda when doing it for the sake of personal best interest. Just a thought. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpetuates suffering.

Re: [ob] Haruskah Jualan Hari ini?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Menurut Jend. Arto, yang tertinggi sedang menunggu (even IDX can make a new high by end of this year). So..invest!. Invest!, And Invest!. From: "mail.lieferd...@yahoo.com" To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:24:48 PM Subject: [ob

Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto, Kalau berkenan, bisa kasih bocoran saham2 mana saja yang jadi JAGOAN BOZZ (except Indomie) dan PTBA ? Appreciate your response. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpetuates suffering. -Original Message- From: ar

Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto, Kalau baca tulisan Anda tampak sekali bahwa Anda contra dengan pak Oentoeng apalagi dengan EL. Just curious, bukankah Anda bertiga seperguruan ? Atau setidak-tidaknya Anda dan pak Oentoeng? What a strategy do you apply? Hehehe. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.

Re: [ob] Re: Haruskah Jualan Hari ini?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Obers, DID YOU NOTICE WHAT MBAH ALREADY SAID below? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: "jsx_consultant" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:09:50 T

Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto, ENTE bikin offer di 2325 dulu baru ane bantu hajar kanan, OK? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009

Re: Bls: [ob] ML: BUY BUMI, TP 4000

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau ngga salah ML juga pernah mengeluarkan analisa ttg INDF sekitar Feb, 2009 dgn TP < 900, tetapi sekarang INDF sudah > 2ribu. Dan juga banyak analyst dari sekuritas lain yg memberi TP yang sangat PESIMISTIC bagi TINS, ANTM dan INCO. Ternyata hampir semua kurang tepat. Dan yang benar, tepat

Re: [ob] TERMINAL 2325 ???

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Baru sempat baca e-mail di bawah ini. Ane jadi tertawa..wkwkwkwkwsoalnya ada nama kucing liar segala. Emang warungnya Mbah OK punya!!! (minjam istilah jend.Arto)...full of fun.full of stock market knowledge, and full of Bandarmology. hehehe  From:

Re: [ob] Fwd: (BN) Oil Will Reach $85 a Barrel, Decline Is Temporary,

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Hukum Penawaran dan Permintaan (the law of supply and demand) will be a key driver in determining the price. Karena Minyak Bumi bukan merupakan energy terbarukan maka stocknya pasti akan menyusut dan permintaan akan terus bertambah sejalan dengan pertumbuhan penduduk Dunia (kecuali jika Air den

Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
: Subject: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..? deal...! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob Oen" wrote: > > Jend. Arto, > > ENTE bikin offer di 2325 dulu baru ane bantu hajar kanan, OK? > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.

[ob] "BUMI-unbelievable"

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
21:06:01 To: Subject: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..? entar kaya kemaren lagi ane di ledekin. deal or no deal ane yakin ke 3000. DISCLAIMER ON --- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, Jacob Oen menulis: Dari: Jacob Oen Judul: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..? Kepada: obrolan

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: Setan Gundul Beraksi Lagi

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik jacob oen
wah ini kayaknya bukan statement dari Jend. Arto yang asli (yang bakal masuk majalah "FORBES" ???). hehehe.. From: artomoro9 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:47:26 AM Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: Setan Gundul Beraksi Lagi  

Re: [ob] BUMI - PROJECT CANCEL

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
OK, will do. Really appreciate this kind of info. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: Jack Cowok Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:23:20 To: Subject:

[ob] Wijaya Karya Incar Pasar Properti

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wijaya Karya Incar Pasar Properti Kamis, 30 Juli 2009 | 03:51 WIBJakarta, Kompas - Badan usaha milik negara PT Wijaya Karya Tbk mengincar pasar properti swasta pada semester II-2009. Wika menargetkan Rp 100 miliar-Rp 150 miliar dari pasar properti yang ditawarkan swasta pada semester mendatang.

Re: [ob] Attention Please

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak JT, Untung banyak sih nggak! Cuman balik modal yg sudah dikeluarkan sejak October 2007 tanpa memperhitungkan bunga. (karena nyangkut di Bumi dan nggak berani C/L karena baru join OB akhir April). Btw, I've bought 100 lot BNBR at 100, will donate it to OB milis 20 lot by end of this year.

Re: [ob] Attention Please

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
- From: Heru Susanto Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:54:11 To: Subject: Re: [ob] Attention Please Bos kalo BNBR nya jadi 120 minggu depan boleh minta 10 perak aja nggak? hue he he. GO BNBR 120... On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jacob Oen wrote: > > > Pak JT, > > Untung b

Re: [ob] Google finance tidak efektif

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Hari ini mungkin bisa disebut sebagai "ANOMALY Day". Hanya Big BOZZ yang tau jawabannya. Isn't it? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: Dean Earwi

Re: [ob] Mbah, sebenernya apa si yang mentrigger kenaikan hari ini?

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ya mungkin benar juga bahwa kenaikan ini untuk mendapatkan kepercayaan investor karena kalau ngga salah mereka (BG) mau menerbitkan OBLIGASI. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -

Re: [ob] Please deh, jangan lebay..

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
It's now the turn for younger generation to lead a political party. the reason is very simple: Energetic, Committed, Adaptable and Capable person as well as relatively free from vested interest is a best choice.    From: Henry Liem To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogro

Re: [ob] BUMI 3000 was Please deh, jangan lebay..

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ane NGGAK ikut2an lagi. Biarkan Jend.Arto and his followers ENJOY the game to 3000. It's probably full of ENGINEERING. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message

Re: [ob] bumi 3000 done...!!!

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
PLEASE GO AHEAD and ENJOY the GAME. FOR ME THE SHOW HAS BEEN TOO RUDE. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:

Re: [ob] bumi 3000 done...!!!

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Apparently ICHING has been NOT OBJECTIVE anymore. Be careful, don't be too enthusiast. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: "ichingprediction" Da

Re: [ob] Re: Ahli Corporate Action tolong donk jelasin Convertible Bond...

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
I absolutely AGREE. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: "cipto_jh" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:34:38 To: Subject: [ob] Re: Ahli Corporate Action

[ob] Don’t Invest In The Stock Market

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bukan BOZZ aja bisa Contrarian .below opinion is against to what many people belief that Stock Market can make them "RICH".      Today’s Devil’s Advocate post is going to hit at the very heart of the financial sector. The stock market is one of the cornerstones of the American economy and on

[ob] Euro-Zone Prices Sink as Jobless Rate Ticks Up

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Articles from The Wall Street Journal.   By JOE PARKINSON and NICHOLAS WINNING JULY 31, 2009, 11:04 A.M. ET   LONDON-- The annual contraction in euro-zone consumer prices accelerated in July, increasing the risk of deflation as the 16-country region works to emerge from recession. Meanwhile, the

Re: [ob] Re: Ciputra aneh .....Research pak Yuga.....

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Memang cukup memprihatinkan LK beberapa Emiten BEI. Bahkan ada yang hingga sekarang LK Q1 belum juga dipublish. Kalau ngga salah CTRP termasuk salah satu emiten bersama INCO yang tidak membagi Dividen. Jadi selama ini investor hanya digerakan berdasarkan sentiment dan data Macro Economyseb

Re: [ob] 31 july.

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Namanya Humankind hampir jarang benar2 bisa objective. Karena proses progamming and conditioning yang dialami sejak kecil hingga dewasa baik dari lingkungan keluarga, pergaulan, kerja dan society (both domestic and international) dan juga the nature of human being itself. Orientasi pribadi ses

Re: [ob] [oot] KIAMAT 2012

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ini namanya DELUSION, atau contaminated thought,,they've been occupied by the very ordinary things outside themselves. So just go back to ourselves, try to balance the lives of ours with the UNIVERSE, with the reality and with the OTHERS. THERE IS NO END ONLY A TRANSFORMATION. Powere

Re: [ob] Re: Ciputra aneh .....Research pak Yuga.....

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
ANG. Management yg mewakili dan bekerja untuk kepentingan investor publik http://www.investdata.net/QWINCO.TXT http://www.investdata.net/QWSGRO.TXT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jacob oen wrote: > > Memang cukup memprihatinkan LK beberapa Emiten BEI. > > Bahkan ada yang

Re: [ob] tools sederhana

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau boleh ane kasih comment, hanya "Data Sahamku" dan "Bandar Bola" yang berani secara jelas merekomendasikan "Sell" atau "Buy" kalau yang lain CMIIAW serba tersamar + Discl ON lagi. Bisa Anda bayangkan berapa banyak email yg beredar di Milis Tercinta ini. Kalau bukan yg benar2 obvious, lucu

Re: [ob] Bandarmologi: Apakah segala galanya DIATUR ?

2009-08-01 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, TERNYATA di stock market lebih khusus lagi di BEI penuh dengan trick-trick yang mencengankan dan SHOW of FORCES dari para Bandar. Jadi teringat statement EL ...if you think that stock market is friendly, you are wrong. Mudah2an Algo trading kreasinya pak DE bisa membantu Trader kecil dan

[ob] To Mbah: KENAPA BUMI (BG) begitu diminati?

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Mbah, Di bawah ini Pertanyaan dari seorang amatir di stock market: 1. Kenapa BUMI begitu diminati sehingga menjadi saham yang paling besar nilai transaksinya? Apakah karena floating share terbesar? Apakah karena most volatile sehingga potensi Gain (loss) juga begitu besar? Atau apakah kare

Re: [ob] yakin minggu ini market masih naik...?

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
YAKIN? Any clue?...BHSH? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER AWAKE. TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVEN IF WE ARE ASLEEP. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:15 To: ob Subj

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