"Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism,
and die on euphoria. The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy, and
the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell."
Sir John Templeton
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JW-OTR wrote:
>
> k
Dari perspektif psikologis:
"Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism,
and die on euphoria. The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy, and
the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell."
Sir John Templeton
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogro
Booms, Busts, and Where Opportunities Occur
by Robert Kiyosaki
Tuesday, April 4, 2006
"Is there a real estate bubble?" That's the question I'm asked
repeatedly. When I reply honestly -- "I hope so" -- my questioners' fear
occasionally turns into anger.
"You want the market to crash?" asked one
Kalau pakai dana dingin dan pilih fundamental yang solid rasanya nggak
perlu terlalu khawatir. Secara makro dan mikro (emiten) belum ada
perubahan fundamental yang signifikan. Yang terjadi adalah perubahan
sentimen dan proses akumulasi.
Coba lihat prinsip investasi dari salah satu legenda berikut:
faithful servant."
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=01A81C29-0ABC-49C6-\
9310-A877993D3E18
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Templeton: Lessons from the dean of contrarians
http://www.domain-b.com/people/in_the_news/20080717_john_marks_templeton\
.html
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "alfanendya&
Kalau dibilang lagi switching dari mining dan CPO ke banking rasanya
koq agak aneh. Smart money umumnya sell on tops dan buy on dips. Jadi
kalau big boss jual mining dan CPO seharusnya pas peak kemarin dan
beli banking pas koreksi kemarin2. Sekarang ini saya koq merasa yang
terjadi adalah akumulasi
Charts say stocks near bottom, poised to recover-Fortis
SINGAPORE, April 14 (Reuters) - Equity markets have found a bottom and
are poised to hit new highs in the second half of this year, according
to a senior chartist at Dutch-Belgian bank Fortis.
Paul Nesbitt, London-based technical analysis di
Dikutip dan dirangkai (copy & paste sebetulnya :-)) dari beberapa
sumber:
\
The recent market turmoil is rocking investors around the globe. But it
is raising the stock of one
Seandainya turun terus menuju 2,000, kalau setiap turun 20-25 point
beli secara bertahap, maka didapat harga rata-rata di IHSG 2,100-an.
Ini seandainya. Dan hanya untuk investor.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, agus halim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kalau saya tarik IHSG dari tahun 2006
Small-Cap U.S. Stocks Rally After JPMorgan Predicts 12% Advance
By Lynn Thomasson
Jan. 31 (Bloomberg) -- The Russell 2000 Index gained almost twice as
much as the Standard & Poor's 500 Index after JPMorgan Chase & Co. said
the measure of small U.S. companies will surge because its members are
che
Fed May Cut Rate to Below Inflation, Risking New Asset Bubbles
By Craig Torres and Simon Kennedy
Jan. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve may push interest rates
below the pace of inflation this year to avert the first simultaneous
decline in U.S. household wealth and income since 1974.
The thr
No guts no glory :-). Saham komoditas dan saham CPO turun sangat
tajam. Tapi volume sangat tipis (kecuali BUMI, ANTM, UNSP).
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "James Arifin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hari ini kalau mau barang murah gunakan 50% dari cash yang ada untuk
masuk.
> Volume ng
Tolong Embah nanti kasih tahu kapan kecambah-kecambah mulai tumbuh lagi.
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wrote:
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> Wow...
>
> Embah satu ini bener-bener beda kelas dengan analis yang lain.
>
> Bisa-bisanya membaca gerakan bandar.
>
> Btw..saya jug
John Templeton :
"Look for the point of maximum pessimism and accommodate anxious,
panicky sellers by buying their stocks."
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>
> Mbah, kapan serbu BEJ nih?? Pasukan udah siap dengan perlengkapan
> tempur lengkap. Tingg
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "alfanendya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Oppenheimer Funds Inc. (OFI) dulu adalah salah satu pemegang saham
> ANTM terbesar d samping RI. Di tahun 2005, ketika ANTM masih di harga
> 300-500 (split adjusted), OFI sudah memiliki sekitar 11% s
Oppenheimer Funds Inc. (OFI) dulu adalah salah satu pemegang saham
ANTM terbesar d samping RI. Di tahun 2005, ketika ANTM masih di harga
300-500 (split adjusted), OFI sudah memiliki sekitar 11% saham ANTM.
Per September 2007 OFI tinggal memiliki sekitar 5% ANTM.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.
http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php?url=http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/11/tgl/16/time/105843/idnews/853405/idkanal/4
SHANGHAI, Nov 12 (Reuters) - China's stock market dropped more than 4
percent in late morning trade on Monday after the central bank
announced at the weekend that it would raise the ratio of bank reserve
requirements, effective from Nov. 26, in its latest monetary tightening.
http://www.reuters.com
Slippery Slope
Daniel Fisher 11.12.07, 12:00 AM ET
Oil at $100 a barrel? No way, says one defiant expert. Expect $60
crude--soon.
War in Iraq, destabilization from Turkey, unquenchable thirst for energy
in Asia, millions of fuel-slurping SUVs still cruising American
highways. No wonder oil pr
IPO 2 milyar lembar @ 700 = 1,4 trilyun. Ritel katanya dapat 50% = 700
milyar. Dalam 2 hari pertama tampil sudah lebih dari 600 milyar
berpindah tangan.
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wrote:
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> tetep aja turun. masih banyak yg belom cut loss. kalau dibawa ke 500
November 6, 2007George Soros warns of 'serious' US correctionOne of the
world's most influential investors has said that America is on course
for a worse-than-expected downturn Marcus Leroux
George Soros, the currency investor who almost single-handedly drove the
pound out of the European exchange-
Ada yang tahu fundamentalnya? Yang jelas "baru" naik 14% :-)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pamudji Rahardjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Klo utk beli dr market kyknya sih utk short term, rasanya udah agak
ketinggalan. Hr ini aja yg jual di 1000 kan udah banyak banget. Dan
highest price
Credit-Card Debt: The Next Subprime Crisis?
This past summer's subprime meltdown involved about $900 billion in
now-suspect securitized debt, reckless lending, and consumers who
buckled under the weight of loans they couldn't afford. Now another
link in the consumer debt chain - credit cards - is
"Sir John Templeton's investment philosophy was to look for what he
calls "the point of maximum pessimism" and accommodate anxious,
panicky sellers by buying their stocks. At the other end of the
market, he aided excited and acquisitive buyers by selling them the
stocks they craved. "Buy low and se
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tbumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pikiri saja bagaimana saham anda besok hari bisa naik
> dan untung besar.
> Pemain tahu saham pertambangan tidak ada hubbungan dengan
> resesi ini, maka saham pertambangan ini sangat kuat sekali
> terhadap sera
Analysts Suggest New Investment Bank Writedowns of More Than $10 Billion
Are Coming Soon
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071102/investment_banks.html
Report: Citigroup CEO Will Offer to Resign Sunday; Board Expected to
Hold Emergency Meeting
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071102/citigroup_board_meeting.html
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Cepat atau lambat WIKA akan menyesuaikan dengan peer. Soal fundamental
bisa diatur oleh pemerintah dengan proyek-proyek yang bagus. Yang
penting bisa nyumbang buat hajatan nanti :-)
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> TBLA ada target ke 1000, seperti t
GET A LIFE...
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "alfanendya"
> wrote:
> >
> > Subprime crisis belum sepenuhnya selesai, sekarang ada China fear
> > factor :-). Nikkei jadi merah sekarang.
> > Tiada hari tanpa kekhawatiran...
> >
> >
&g
Subprime crisis belum sepenuhnya selesai, sekarang ada China fear
factor :-). Nikkei jadi merah sekarang.
Tiada hari tanpa kekhawatiran...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Bettina Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> China drop more than 2 %.. again?
>
Sudah tembus 17 ribu. Bravo buat market makernya...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "alfanendya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Yunnan Tin's profits surge
> Release date: 15 Oct 2007
>
> Yunnan Tin Company reported an almost four-fold increase in p
Orang recapital pernah cerita bahwa BUMI adalah lokomotif bagi
kebangkitan Bakrie. Sekarang BUMI sudah jalan pelan-pelan (walaupun
masih terus naik). Wajar kalau harus ada lokomotif ke dua.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear investors and
Yunnan Tin's profits surge
Release date: 15 Oct 2007
Yunnan Tin Company reported an almost four-fold increase in profits in
the first nine months of 2007. Net income rose to 454 million yuan
($60 million), or 0.85 yuan a share, compared with 120 million yuan,
or 0.22 yuan, a year ago, the Yunnan-b
SYDNEY, Oct 15 (Reuters) - Australian spot thermal coal
prices rose above $76 tonne on Monday to a record, lifted by a
supply crunch as Asian buyers scramble for more coal before the
northern winter. Thermal coal, used in power generation, jumped $4.52
from a
week earlier to $76.16 per tonne, the
"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke pledged Friday that the central
bank will "act as needed" to keep the credit crisis that has unhinged
Wall Street from hurting the national economy."
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is not good for
"Following 50 60% increases in refined tin production and sales in
the first half of this year, Indonesia's state-controlled producer
PT Timah will cut output in the second half."
http://www.itri.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_NEWSART/view.asp?Q=BF_NEWSART_2\
93020
Ini juga dari ITRI:
"A shortage of
Chinese tin prices soar
Release date: 29 Aug 2007
A shortage of tin concentrates and strong demand is resulting in a
surge in Chinese tin prices to levels well above LME prices. Latest
spot prices in the Shanghai area quoted by the Antaike research
company were RMB 149,000 152,000/tonne (US$19,7
Berita resminya belum ada. Tapi manajemen pernah bilang bahwa TINS
akan stock split bila harganya stabil di atas 10 ribu. Sambil menunggu
corporate actionnya, ayo tebak-tebakan berapa rasio splitnya?
a. 1:2, jumlah saham menjadi 1,006 milyar lembar --> sedikit lebih
banyak dari INCO (993,6 juta le
Baron Rothschild, the quintessential banking opportunist, is said to
have advised that the best time to buy is when there is "blood in the
streets."
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, " Marjan Syah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> BEJ banjir darah. Mumpung baru luka ringan saya juga mau keluar
.Kementerian BUMN akan menggenjot setoran dividen interim dari
empat BUMN yang telah go public, yakni PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (Antam),
PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA), PT Bank Mandiri Tbk (BMRI),
dan PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia (Telkom). ..
http://www.investorindonesia.com/i
Menjelang RUPS dan corporate action mengapa bandar harus cuci gudang?
Mungkin ada yg bisa menjelaskan.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo Michel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Semenjak pertengahan April, tampaknya Bandar sudah mulai melepas
barang2 nya (lihat grafik BD 1 Month). Namu
Ada juga kemungkinan ini:
Norilsk Nickel, produsen nickel utama dunia, mengapalkan nickel
melalui Dudinka port. Pada saat musim semi, pelabuhan tsb terendam air
akibat salju yang mencair sehingga harus ditutup untuk jangka waktu
sebulan. Penutupan ini biasanya mulai akhir Mei. Peningkatan inventor
Cuma sedikit jagoan yang bisa buy @ bottom. For the rest of us, we buy
@ top hehe. Yang penting selama ini saham berfundamental bagus, keep
accumulating. Jangan akumulasi saham kolesterol tinggi :-)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, david kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> sekarang kah?t
Belum tahu tuh. Yang jelas JPFA dan CPIN naik. Yang belum SIPD.
Ini keluarga unggas-unggasan kan?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mudah2an ada yang bisa konfirmasi
>
>
> --
> You'll Never Walk Alone
>
Bakrie bergerak !
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "alfanendya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Inikah saatnya bagi penggemar Bakrie?
>
Inikah saatnya bagi penggemar Bakrie?
1:5
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>
> SS 1:3 ? jadi Rp 5000 ?
> - Original Message -
> From: rwnhajiy
> To: ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM
>
>
> Monday, May 14, 2007, 2:28:3
Nickel dan base metal lain (copper, tin) jatuh akibat data US housing
yang lemah. Tunggu di 55 ribu, siapa tahu dapat :-)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 24/4/07: LME nickel hit a new high of $50,200 and was up
1.2 percent at $50,000/50,100. Only 2,958
ws/?s=15> especially
> tin<http://metalsplace.com/metalsnews/?s=15>produced by illegal
> miners.
>
> Large exports of low quality tin
> <http://metalsplace.com/metalsnews/?s=15>produced by illegal miners in
> Bangka and Belitung have previously been
> bla
Koba Tin sudah dapat export license. Hati-hati.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Johand Dimalouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Kalau supply lebih besar dari demand, harga turun dan juga
sebaliknya. Jadi kalau supply naik krn demand yang naik, harga tidak
turun, malahan harga bisa naik kar
Hitungan saya juga sekitar 400. Tapi saya coba cek lagi kemungkinan
salah hitung. Satu-satunya yang mungkin bisa miss jauh adalah cost. Ada
kemungkinan cost/tonne meningkatnya linier dengan harga timah (yang
sebelumnya saya tidak perkirakan). Saya coba lihat data historikal
antara rata-rata harga t
Sekarang sedang isi amunisi ya hehe.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Sudeswanto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> yuppe ^^
> nah, sekarang...
> index berpeluang mencetak rekor tertinggi baru pada bulan Maret dan
April
> ini...alasannya?
> ntar juga tau sendiri, terserah mau percaya atau tid
alan, administrasi etc berapa .. akhirnya operating profit
> > > berapa ?
> > > > Waktu ane masih kerja di prsh sekuritas TINS sempat dikabarkan
> > > mau bangkrut karena harga timah melempem, cost bisa lebih tinggi
> > > dari harga jual pada 3 s/d 5 ribu/ton. (waktu itu
i market.
>
> Menurut ogut, saat ini sepertinya Bandar2 yg ngumpulin di harga 2000
dan 4000 lagi pingin pelesiran, so muatan harus di turunkan dulu biar
agak ringan. Nunggu lapkeu 4Q, seberapa effisien PT Timah beroperasi,
thus dari situ baru ketahuan going NORTH or SOUTH...
>
&
Menurut PT Timah, para penambang inkonvensional (TI) masih bisa untung
walau mereka jual tin ore ke PT Timah seharga 4 ribu $/MT. Jadi tin
ore memang akan mengarah ke situ harganya.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "HERDIYANTO WIJAYA"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Kalau di pasaran waktu it
Tinggal tunggu riset ANTM. 14 ribu ?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "power2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> --
> Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen!
> Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer
>
Strong global demand further drives up steel
By Hanim Adnan
PETALING JAYA: Strong global demand for steel continues to drive the
price of the commodity, which will in turn support the bottom line
growth of local steel players this year.
Most steel players expect steel prices to escalate further
Dari TA memang overbought, tapi dari EA (event analysis) masih ada
beberapa acara yang perlu diperhatikan:
- BI Rate mungkin turun lagi (rapat BI 7 Desember)
- Window dressing akhir tahun 2006
Just a matter of timing?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
Toge-toge nan mungil.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 13:00 WIB
>
> Coba lihat grafik regional yang embah kirim, TERLIHAT gerakan para
> BAKAL REGIONAL searah dengan HASIL analisa bandarmologi embah
>
> Coba click URL ini:
>
> http://finan
Gak usah tunjukkan darah segala lah. Tunjukkin aja actionnya gitu loh.
Reputasi neh he3x.
Hope is not a method Boss.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bozz tunjukkan DARAHMU yang NINGRAT
> Entah darah biru, kuning, hijau,biar RAINBOW STIL
Gambling is taking risk when the odds are against you.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, budi suryono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Kalau dari opini saya ,gambling adalah mempertaruhkan untuk suatu
event/probability
> jauh melebihi kemampuan modal, jika salah langsung bangkrut.Petani
Tahun lalu juga ceritanya sama. Tapi kenyataannya pertumbuhan ekonomi
China masih berlanjut meroket. Ngapain slow down kalau kurs dan suku
bunga under control. Lagipula China butuh otot besar untuk jadi negara
super power. Harus banyak makan yg bergizi hehe.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.c
Sudah kumpul sampai 1 juta lot belum?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bukan pak
> Sahamnya masih NGENDOG di bawah...
> Tapi SETIAP HARI kelihatan DIGERILYA terus ama BOZZ
> Satu saat nanti akan saya bilang...
> Ini juga salah satu ekspe
Pak Eka, berapa bottom line ANTM & PTBA di 2008? Berapa proyeksi EPS
masing2? Secara historis, berapa dividend payout ratio ANTM & PTBA?
Thanks.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Target PTBA utk tahun 2007-2008 minimal sampai 7000, kalian harus
California fund sees gold in Indonesia
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/18/bloomberg/sxcalpers.php
CalPERS adds Indonesia to investment list
http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2006/04/17/daily10.html
Dow Ends Up 195 at 11,269 on News That Fed Thinks Run of Interest Rate
Hikes Is Lik
Kalau nggak salah deal tsb termasuk "assumed debt". Dalam hal ini
mungkin notes-nya Indocoal Resources sebagai akibat jual-beli batubara
ke Indocoal Export sebesar USD 600 juta. Di lapkeu dicatat sebagai
uang muka pelanggan. Per September 2005 masih ada kewajiban ke
Indocoal Export sekitar Rp. 4,7
Market maker (bandar) pasti juga ngerti fundamental ANTM.
Pertanyaannya: Kalau memang bagus secara fundamental, kenapa bandar
berani-beraninya turunin? Gak takut ilang barang dia? Pasti ada hidden
agenda. Apa ritel berani nangkep pisau jatuh ? He 3x
Si OD rekomen sell sampe 2700 perak.
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untuk bentuk new
> high,
> selain dua saham itu, bapak punya jagoan baru apa neh?
>
> anyway thank you pak,
>
>
> michael
>
>
>
> __
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>
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antm saya
> lihat membentuk CwH
> tapi sangat lebar sekali, all time high (thn
> 1998-an) di harga 2925,
> apakah
> bisa kita akumulasi lagi bila tembus di level itu?
> dikuatirkan spt bumi
> yang banyak musuhnya di 950-an.
>
> salut pak!
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