Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer: Response to an unauthenticated request

2012-05-16 Thread Manger, James H
Bill, >> A WWW-Authenticate response header that identifies an authorization >> server (AS) would be a great hypermedia-driven solution. >> It tells the client app which AS a service trusts. >> The client app can then get a token. ... > Yeah, unfortunately the WWW-Authenticate solution advertisin

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer: Response to an unauthenticated request

2012-05-16 Thread William Mills
The problem is the password grant.  Clients that support it would potentially deliver the username and password without asking the user, or by prompting in the UI itself and not through a web interaction with the AS. > > From: "Manger, James H" >To: William Mi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-16 Thread Eliot Lear
Stephen, Hannes, Given the intent to re-run LC, counsel need about 2-3 weeks to answer the questions you've asked. Had the patent been disclosed in a timely fashion they would have had that time long before LC. Having some questions answered I believe will help LC discussion. I hope this doesn'

Re: [OAUTH-WG] MAC Token draft

2012-05-16 Thread William Mills
I think there is a need for a signed token style OAuth 2 scheme, and MAC fills this niche, although holder-of-key (as yet un-drafted) would also do this nicely.  Is MAC going to get picked up and driven to completion?  Do others feel this token style (and security properties) are needed?  Or a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] MAC Token draft

2012-05-16 Thread Justin Richer
I also think it's worthwhile. OAuth2 doesn't provide a way to do a signed-http-request in the way that OAuth1 does. I would definitely like to see this draft make its way to completion, but I don't have the crypto expertise to pick up editing it myself. -- Justin On 05/16/2012 11:51 AM, Will

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-16 Thread Dick Hardt
3) I have read the IPR and I believe I could deploy this specification. NOTE: I am not a legal expert, but I do have extensive experience with identity related patents and after reviewing the claims, I do not believe that the OAuth 2.0 or OAuth bearer specifications infringe on patent 7272639.

[OAUTH-WG] dynamic client registration without redirect_url for mobile?

2012-05-16 Thread Tom Brown
for draft-hardjono-oauth-dynreg, would it make sense to have a type where no redirect_url is passed and instead the client registration endpoint assigns the redirect uri itself? for instance, a mobile app might request this type of registration and the client registration endpoint could assign the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer: Response to an unauthenticated request

2012-05-16 Thread Manger, James H
> The problem is the password grant. This doesn’t sound like a good reason to ditch AS discovery via an WWW-Authenticate response header. Client apps using the password grant are only a subset of OAuth clients, and a specialized subset at that. The spec [draft-ietf-oauth-v2-26#section-4.3] says

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Bearer: Response to an unauthenticated request

2012-05-16 Thread William Mills
The problem is not with the auth servers, it's with clients that support password grant.  If they trust info sent to them by a resource server they will give up the goods. > > From: "Manger, James H" >To: William Mills ; "oauth@ietf.org" >Sent: Wednesday, Ma