Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-30 Thread John Bradley
The "jwks" meta-data parameter may also be required for some of the Proof of Possession flows. Allowing a client to register its public key is important for reducing the number of long term symetric keys that need to be maintained. On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > As Mike

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-30 Thread Brian Campbell
Somewhat related is the client_secret_expires_at parameter. It seems a little odd to have that in this protocol that offers no way to deal with the expiration other than a completely new reregistration. It also seems like it should be more general than just the expiration of the secret and apply to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-30 Thread Brian Campbell
As Mike and Torsten have said, and for the same reasons, I would also like to see the "jwks" metadata parameter added. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt < tors...@lodderstedt.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I also believe both documents should be merged. > > Nevertheless, here are

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-20 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi all, I also believe both documents should be merged. Nevertheless, here are my comments on the current drafts: * OAuth 2.0 Dynamic Client Registration Core Protocol http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-16 1.2. Terminology " Multiple instances of the same piece of client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-06 Thread Mike Jones
April 06, 2014 12:59 AM To: Bill Mills Cc: oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents I think it is at the discretion of the actual deployment whether clients may dynamically register or not (meaning the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-06 Thread Phil Hunt
lationship with. > > -- Mike > > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:59 AM > To: Bill Mills > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-06 Thread Mike Jones
pre-existing relationship with. -- Mike From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:59 AM To: Bill Mills Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-06 Thread Phil Hunt
Hmm. I think this issue is self evident to the developer If they have obtained a client id through developer registration (current typical oauth) they are good to go. IOW If you have a client id issued out of band you are good to go. Otherwise look for dyn reg or some other method. This likel

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-06 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
I think it is at the discretion of the actual deployment whether clients may dynamically register or not (meaning they need to go through some oob mechanism). Protocols utilizing OAuth could make it part of their mandatory to implement features - in the same way OIDC does. Best regards, Torsten

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-05 Thread Mike Jones
annes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents If these are going to be combined then a draft should be produced and then a decision should be made once everyone has a chance to review -Original Message- From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-05 Thread Mike Jones
heers, -- Mike From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:13 PM To: Torsten Lodderstedt Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents To me the fundamental questi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-05 Thread Bill Mills
To me the fundamental question of whether a client has to be registered in each place it is used is quite significant.  We don't address the problem and have not discussed it enough. -bill On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:39 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: Hi Bill, which scalability problem are y

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-05 Thread Anthony Nadalin
; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents I would combine these two documents, with no normative changes. This would be a convenience for implementers. And the metadata values that are currently optional would remain optional. I would

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-05 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Bill, I believe Torsten is right. Most of the discussion in London was focused on the management API rather than the core/meta-data docs. Unfortunately, in our agenda we lumped both of these topics together. There wasn't much disagreement on the core/meta-data docs. As I wrote on the mailing l

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-04 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi Bill, which scalability problem are you referring to? As far as I remember there were issues around the management API but not the core protocol. regards, Torsten. > Am 04.04.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Bill Mills : > > Given the fundamental scalability problem we discussed in London do we really

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-04 Thread Mike Jones
I would combine these two documents, with no normative changes. This would be a convenience for implementers. And the metadata values that are currently optional would remain optional. I would also add an optional "jwks" metadata member, paralleling this addition in OpenID Connect Registratio

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-04 Thread Bill Mills
Given the fundamental scalability problem we discussed in London do we really feel we're ready? On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:07 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, This is a Last Call for comments on the dynamic client registration documents: * OAuth 2.0 Dynamic Client Registration Core Proto

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Working Group Last Call on Dynamic Client Registration Documents

2014-04-04 Thread Justin Richer
I believe the two documents should be merged back into one, keeping the same functionality. It doesn't help developers to split them out like this and it doesn't change the modularity of the implementation at all to have things listed in separate documents. I would really like to see actual co