Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code instead of implicit

2018-11-29 Thread Dave Tonge
+1 On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 19:06, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Hi all, > > based on your feedback on the list and off list, Daniel and I polished the > text. That’s our proposal: > > — > In order to avoid these issues, clients MUST NOT use the implicit > grant (response type "token") or any other

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Binding Access Tokens is not enough!

2018-11-29 Thread Richard Backman, Annabelle
Sure. But given that TLS token binding is often put forth as a mitigation against token theft and replay, it's worth noting that on its own it does not address this risk when the replay is coming from the same browser, and the RS needs to support CORS. -- Annabelle Richard Backman AWS Identity

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread Richard Backman, Annabelle
> Claimed "https" scheme URIs (RFC 8252, Sec 7.2) can be used to provide some > identity guarantees… Yes, provided that the AS can verify that the claimed URI is a valid URI for the identity being asserted by the client. And this identity guarantee would apply to an public native app client jus

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-10.txt

2018-11-29 Thread Brian Campbell
Big +1 here. I'd be in favor of the document discussing the potential benefits of tying the refresh token to a session in some situations but very much agree that the spectrum of desired behaviors is much too wide to normatively recommend any particular option. On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:19 PM Nei

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code instead of implicit

2018-11-29 Thread n-sakimura
+1 Nat Sakimura / n-sakim...@nri.co.jp / +81-90-6013-6276 このメールには、本来の宛先の方のみに限定された機密情報が含まれている場合がございます。お心あたりのない場合は、誠に申し訳ございませんが、送信者までお知らせ頂き、また受信されたメールは削除してくださいますようお願い申し上げます。 PLEASE READ :This e-mail is confidential and intended for the named recipient only. If you are not an intended recipient, p

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code instead of implicit

2018-11-29 Thread John Bradley
+1 On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 3:06 PM Torsten Lodderstedt Hi all, > > based on your feedback on the list and off list, Daniel and I polished the > text. That’s our proposal: > > — > In order to avoid these issues, clients MUST NOT use the implicit > grant (response type "token") or any other response

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code instead of implicit

2018-11-29 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi all, based on your feedback on the list and off list, Daniel and I polished the text. That’s our proposal: — In order to avoid these issues, clients MUST NOT use the implicit grant (response type "token") or any other response type issuing access tokens in the authorization response, such a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread n-sakimura
In the case of dynamic client registration for apps, I suppose the implementations will use other techniques (many of them are proprietary) to test if the app is the one created by themselves or not. Otherwise, it would not improve the situation very much. Nat Nat Sakimura / n-sakim...@nri.co.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread Joseph Heenan
Hi all, It’s worth adding that a per-instance dynamic registration of a native client can still imply a higher level of trust than a public client and registration isn’t necessarily unauthenticated. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7591 defines an “initial access token”: > OAuth 2.0 access token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code instead of implicit

2018-11-29 Thread John Bradley
I am ok with that. On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 8:03 PM Torsten Lodderstedt > > Am 28.11.2018 um 23:50 schrieb n-sakimura : > > > > That works. > > Good! > > I just realized this text has an issue with „token“ (only). It would allow > „token“ to be used if the token would sender constrained. This comple

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread Christian Mainka
Hi, thanks for pointing this out! This was exactly what confused us during reading *-* the main threat we see and which is not addressed is related to the app impersonation attack. Even PKCE does not help against the app impersonation attack. So a "Native App + Dynamic Client Registration" can be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code instead of implicit

2018-11-29 Thread Petteri Stenius
Hi all, I support this proposal of recommending authorization code grant and advising to not use implicit grant. As a developer we value clean and robust specifications with less opportunity for mistakes. Thank you, Petteri Stenius / Ubisecure -Original Message- From: OAuth On Behalf