Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
(see http://tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/charters ) On 1/25/12 1:37 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > Eran, do I then correctly understand that you've changed your mind on > the position you took in > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07698.html, > which was: "All I agree with is to limit t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [apps-discuss] Apps Area review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-threatmodel-01

2012-01-25 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi Tim, thanks again for reviewing the threat model document. We will incorporate your comments into a new revision of our document. This work will take some time. So if anyone else wants to review the document, please wait until we announce availability of the next revision. regards, Torst

Re: [OAUTH-WG] WWW-Authenticate Header (Bearer etc.)

2012-01-25 Thread William Mills
Thanks, that's a good explanation. From: Eran Hammer To: "oauth@ietf.org" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: [OAUTH-WG] WWW-Authenticate Header (Bearer etc.) People seems confused about the issue raised by Julian. It is pretty simple. The

[OAUTH-WG] WWW-Authenticate Header (Bearer etc.)

2012-01-25 Thread Eran Hammer
People seems confused about the issue raised by Julian. It is pretty simple. The HTTP WWW-Authenticate header definition allows each header parameter to have a quoted string or token value. Token values are very restrictive and not suitable for scope (no spaces, etc.). Quoted strings allow a wid

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread William Mills
What I was +1 to there is that it makes sense to limit the character set, and I still think limiting the character set is the right thing to do.  I have said before in other threads, and still believe, that all of the definition for things like scope need to be in the OAuth2 base spec and shou

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread John Bradley
Eran agreed to move the restriction on production rules into the core spec. That was what I was agreeing with. I don't quite understand Eran's new position if he has one. I am in favour of restricting the input, however it is possible I am missing something in this long thread. John B. On 20

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread Eran Hammer
And by 'restrict the encoding' I meant limit the allowed character-set in the value to remove the need for encoding (but encoding which results in a valid value - as unnecessary as it may be - is still allowed). EHL > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread Eran Hammer
Didn't change my view. I'm expanding it to say that we should restrict the encoding but at the same time reuse the exact same syntax as the default header. It's bad for the web if developers write custom parsers just for Bearer that will break on any other scheme. For example: WWW-Authentica

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread Justin Richer
My agreement was, and is, to the *production* rules and not the *parsing* rules. So long as the former is a proper subset of the latter, everything is fine. What's happening here is that the spec is being read -- by experts -- as if it were superceding the latter, and that's not a good thing.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The

2012-01-25 Thread Martin Rex
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > > * Mike Jones wrote: > >Thanks for asking, Martin. That's effectively what the spec does > >already. It restricts the input values of these parameters to be quoted > > the HTTP specification does not give you an interface > that allows you to tell `x`

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The

2012-01-25 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Mike Jones wrote: >Thanks for asking, Martin. That's effectively what the spec does >already. It restricts the input values of these parameters to be quoted >strings containing no backslashes. Most XML parsers do not tell you, and most XML generators do not allow you to control, the difference

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The

2012-01-25 Thread Martin Rex
Mike Jones wrote: > > Per the discussion at >http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg08040.html, > the working group's rationale for supporting quoted-string but > not token syntax for these parameters, and for requiring that > backslash ('\') quoting not be used when producing t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Jones
Eran, do I then correctly understand that you've changed your mind on the position you took in http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07698.html, which was: "All I agree with is to limit the scope character-set in the v2 spec to the subset of ASCII allowed in HTTP header quoted-s

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: (The

2012-01-25 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-01-25 03:14, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: ... +1 > ... If you want to keep the distinction, you should offer an argument why this is something individual schemes should regulate (since having the same rules for all schemes is much simpler). > ... Exactly. I've been asking this many times