RE: [NMusers] Ordinal data model: Incorporation of variability & assessment of predictive performance

2019-02-05 Thread Mats Karlsson
Hi Eduard, If you want to have a minimalistic model, with respect to both fixed effects and random effects, but still incorporate all 4 categories as well as the Markov element, you can try the minimal Continuous-Time Markov Model (mCTMM) described in "A Minimal Continuous-Time Markov Pharmacom

Re: [NMusers] Ordinal data model: Incorporation of variability & assessment of predictive performance

2019-02-05 Thread Wilbert de Witte
Dear Eduard, Did you check the distribution of the number of transitions per individual? If this number is low, IIV is difficult to estimate and high shrinkage is expected, as well as a non-normal distribution of the post-hoc estimates. With respect to your second question, you can obtain a rough

RE: [NMusers] Why should we avoid using micro rate constants?

2019-02-05 Thread STANDING, Joseph (GREAT ORMOND STREET HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)
Dear Sumeet, Actually please ignore my last remark, and thanks to Jonathan French for pointing out to me that, the ratio of two log-Normals is indeed log-Normal. I should have deferred to statistical theory rather than fuzzy memory of Normal/Normal being Cauchy so must somehow extend to log-No

Re: [NMusers] Why should we avoid using micro rate constants?

2019-02-05 Thread Singla, Sumeet K
Thank you so much!! These are all wonderful insights and replies and I am definitely going to ponder over it today. Regards, Sumeet Singla On Feb 5, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Saeheum Song mailto:ss.pkpdmo...@gmail.com>> wrote: The input data are composed of amount as dosing and concentration in plasm

Re: [NMusers] Mailing list about pharmacometrics

2019-02-05 Thread Sebastien Bihorel
Thanks Bill - Original Message - From: "Bill Denney" To: "Sebastien Bihorel" , nmusers@globomaxnm.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 11:16:08 AM Subject: RE: [NMusers] Mailing list about pharmacometrics Hi Sebastien, The best I know for general PMx questions is the ISoP message board

Re: [NMusers] Why should we avoid using micro rate constants?

2019-02-05 Thread Saeheum Song
The input data are composed of amount as dosing and concentration in plasma. Concentration is expressed as amount divided by volume of distribution. The rate constant is movement of either amount or concentration pending on modelers intention. Whence, in the modeling fitting, dosing amount needs t

Re: [NMusers] Ordinal data model: Incorporation of variability & assessment of predictive performance

2019-02-05 Thread Girard Pascal
Dear Eduard, Have you tried SAEM or IMP methods to estimate the variability ? Also did you check how good are your population predictions when compared to individual observations? I'm curious to see whether your model with the Markovian and time components would not be capturing all the variabili

RE: [NMusers] Why should we avoid using micro rate constants?

2019-02-05 Thread STANDING, Joseph (GREAT ORMOND STREET HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)
Dear Sumeet, If you are assuming a distribution for your parameters (e.g. log-Normal p = theta * exp(eta)) then it might matter if you use rate constants versus clearances and volumes. In general, if you want to make the log-Normal assumption you should use clearances and volumes as there is r

[NMusers] Ordinal data model: Incorporation of variability & assessment of predictive performance

2019-02-05 Thread Eduard Schmulenson
Dear all, I am currently trying to model the transitions between four adverse event grades (0-3) using a continuous-time Markov modeling approach. I have included a dose effect as well as a time effect on the transition constants. Overall, the parameters are well estimated and the VPC looks als