NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression that the memory theft problem had been sorted. Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this morning nevertheless reduced available memory from 47028k to 28k. -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel?

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:39:02 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression > that the memory theft problem had been sorted. No. The root cause of the problem is RISC OS's dreadful memory management. NetSurf 2.5 simply has some measures to miti

NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression that the memory theft problem had been sorted. Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this morning nevertheless reduced available memory from 47028k to 28k. And in case it is useful, RPC, Strongarm, RO4.02. -- Russell Hafter - Ma

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On 26 Apr 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:39:02 +0100 > Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: >> Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression >> that the memory theft problem had been sorted. > No. The root cause of the problem is RISC OS's dreadful memory > management.

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:52:42 +0100 Richard Porter wrote: > On 26 Apr 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:39:02 +0100 > > Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > > >> Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression > >> that the memory theft problem had been sorted. > > >

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

In article <20100426104206.287b6...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:39:02 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the > > impression that the memory theft problem had been > > sorted. > No. The root c

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On 26 Apr 2010 Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:52:42 +0100 > Richard Porter wrote: >> Whether or not RISC OS's memory management is dreadful, most tasks >> seem to cope with it. > Most tasks are not handling data structures anywhere near as complex as > NetSurf is. The only other t

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:51:16 +0100 Richard Porter wrote: > > Most tasks are not handling data structures anywhere near as > > complex as NetSurf is. The only other that springs to mind is > > Firefox, and I think we'll all agree that NetSurf is far more > > frugal. > > Firefox isn't really via

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On 25 Apr 2010, Rob Kendrick wrote: [snip] > Currently, the future of the RISC OS front end is still in doubt. It > may continue to be developed, it may not. Is there any point in RISC OS NetSurf users continuing to report bugs? Tony

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:46:32 GMT Tony Moore wrote: > > Currently, the future of the RISC OS front end is still in doubt. > > It may continue to be developed, it may not. > > Is there any point in RISC OS NetSurf users continuing to report bugs? Yes. Why wouldn't there be? As I said, the RIS

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On 26/04/2010 10:39, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression > that the memory theft problem had been sorted. > > Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this morning > nevertheless reduced available memory from 47028k to 28k. 47MB isn't an

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:12:28 +0100 "David J. Ruck" wrote: > 47MB isn't an unreasonable amount of memory for a browser to use. > It's less than 2.5% of the minimum any sensible system will have, and > not worth the developers of any modern application trying to optimise > away. Memory is cheap,

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On 26 Apr 2010, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:46:32 GMT > Tony Moore wrote: > > > > Currently, the future of the RISC OS front end is still in doubt. > > > It may continue to be developed, it may not. > > > > Is there any point in RISC OS NetSurf users continuing to report > > bugs

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:24:33 GMT Tony Moore wrote: > > Yes. Why wouldn't there be? As I said, the RISC OS front end may > > still continue to be supported, or it may not. And if it does stop > > being supported, I suspect it won't simply vanish. > > If development of the RISC OS front end were

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On 26 Apr 2010, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:24:33 GMT > Tony Moore wrote: > > > > Yes. Why wouldn't there be? As I said, the RISC OS front end may > > > still continue to be supported, or it may not. And if it does stop > > > being supported, I suspect it won't simply vanish. > >

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

In message <20100426172843.6ed61...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net> Rob Kendrick wrote: > >If we can find nobody to commit to maintaining the RISC OS front end, >changes in the core will eventually break the RISC OS front end, and >stop it building at all. Existing releases and working

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:21:53 +0100 Kevin Wells wrote: > How easy would the RISC OS front end be to maintain. > > I'm not bad at BASIC know a bit of PHP, so may be able to get to grips > if not to complicated. If you don't already have experience and knowledge of C, it's very very complicated.

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

In article <4bd5ad5c.1070...@druck.org.uk>, David J. Ruck wrote: > Either expand your Risc PC to the maximum amount of > memory it will take (256MB) and put off the problem for > another few hours, or face the fact that an almost 20 > year old computer with a fraction of the processor power > an

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory- but works much better elsewhere

After my problem with www.xe.com on NetSurf 2.5 I thought that I would try and see if another page that has caused problems in the past with older versions of NetSurf was now any better... Some time ago I reported (I think it may well have been on a csa. newsgroup rather than here) about how NetSu

Re: NetSurf 2.5 Released

On 26 Apr, Rob Kendrick wrote in message <20100426192242.34a3d...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:21:53 +0100 Kevin Wells > wrote: > > > How easy would the RISC OS front end be to maintain. > > > > I'm not bad at BASIC know a bit of PHP, so may be able to get to gri

Unknown SSL Protocol

I have been using version 2.1 for most of the year since it was released and have been using it for online banking. I have downloaded all the RISC OS development versions this month (including r10487 26 May 2010) as well as v2.5 and they all report "Unknown SSL Protocol error" when I go to my b