Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 10:56:48AM +, Gerrit Renker wrote: > > | - InDatagrams: Total number of received datagrams. > | + InDatagrams: The total number of UDP datagrams delivered to UDP > users. > You are in the UDP-Lite documentation -- it should read "UDP-Lite", not UDP. We coul

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Gerrit Renker
Thank you for doing this work, there is a small comment below. | --- linux-2.6.24.rc3.org/Documentation/networking/udplite.txt 2007-11-19 12:37:40.0 +0800 | +++ linux-2.6.24.rc3/Documentation/networking/udplite.txt 2007-11-28 18:35:29.0 +0800 | @@ -236,7 +236,7 @@ | |Th

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 06:33:01PM +0800, Wang Chen wrote: > > I cooked the patch based on Andi's and left the new counter. > Frankly, I don't like the EarlyDatagrams too. > So, I will remove it and resubmit. Sounds good. Thanks for all your efforts on this problem! -- Visit Openswan at http://w

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Wang Chen
Herbert Xu said the following on 2007-11-29 18:21: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 06:08:30PM +0800, Wang Chen wrote: >> Add a new UdpInEarlyDatagrams counter to count datagrams received early, >> but which might be dropped later. > > Could you please split this into two patches? Have one do the > UdpIn

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 06:08:30PM +0800, Wang Chen wrote: > > Add a new UdpInEarlyDatagrams counter to count datagrams received early, > but which might be dropped later. Could you please split this into two patches? Have one do the UdpInDatagrams change and the other to introduce the EarlyDatag

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Wang Chen
Herbert Xu said the following on 2007-11-29 17:21: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 03:55:38PM +0800, Wang Chen wrote: > > Excellent. They now do a recvmsg first with no buffer to get > meta-information, which just happens to increment the counters. > > Could you please resubmit the patch then? > [SN

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-29 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 03:55:38PM +0800, Wang Chen wrote: > > I tested nfsv3 & nfsv4. It seems that nfs calls recvmsg() like > following:nfsd()->svc_recv()->svc_udp_recvfrom()->udp_recvmsg(). > So, I think putting the udpInDatagrams increment in udp_recvmsg() > is enough. > > FYI: > http://www.m

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-28 Thread Wang Chen
David Miller said the following on 2007-11-21 9:39: > From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:05:18 +0100 > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 12:29:45AM -0500, Bill Fink wrote: >>> While I agree with your analysis that it could be worked around, >>> who knows how all the various

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-20 Thread David Miller
From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:05:18 +0100 > On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 12:29:45AM -0500, Bill Fink wrote: > > While I agree with your analysis that it could be worked around, > > who knows how all the various SNMP monitoring applications out there > > would interpret

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-20 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 12:29:45AM -0500, Bill Fink wrote: > While I agree with your analysis that it could be worked around, > who knows how all the various SNMP monitoring applications out there > would interpret such an unusual event. I liked Stephen's suggestion > of a deferred decrement that

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread Herbert Xu
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 02:25:23PM +0800, Wang Chen wrote: > > I want to wait for more suggestions until make such patch. > Because this solution leads to troubles with some apps, such as NFS. > (http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6660#c2) Well that's easy. Just get NFS to increment the c

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread Wang Chen
David Miller said the following on 2007-11-20 14:15: > From: Bill Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:29:45 -0500 > >> But the best approach seems to be just not to count >> it in the first place until tha application has actually received >> the packet, since as Herbert pointed o

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread David Miller
From: Bill Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:29:45 -0500 > But the best approach seems to be just not to count > it in the first place until tha application has actually received > the packet, since as Herbert pointed out, that's what the RFC > actually specifies for the meaning o

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread Bill Fink
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, David Miller wrote: > From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:29:33 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > All of our options suck, we just have to choose the least sucking one > > > > > and right now to me that's decrementing the counter as much as I > > > > >

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread David Miller
From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:29:33 +0100 > > > > > > > > All of our options suck, we just have to choose the least sucking one > > > > and right now to me that's decrementing the counter as much as I > > > > empathize with the SNMP application overflow detection

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread Andi Kleen
> > > > > > All of our options suck, we just have to choose the least sucking one > > > and right now to me that's decrementing the counter as much as I > > > empathize with the SNMP application overflow detection issue. > > > > If the SNMP monitor detects an false overflow the error it reports

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Em Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 12:41:17PM +0800, Herbert Xu escreveu: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:40:10PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > > > This can be fixed, the above cannot. > > That's a good point. Perhaps one way of getting that info to > the user without putting it in UDPInDatagrams is to create

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread David Miller
From: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:17 +0800 > On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:40:10PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > > > This can be fixed, the above cannot. > > That's a good point. Perhaps one way of getting that info to > the user without putting it in UDPInDatagrams

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread David Miller
From: Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:02:03 +0800 > So if "udp_queue_rcv_skb() doing sucessfully" means "a UDP > datagrams delivered to UDP users", the InDatagrams should be > increased in udp_queue_rcv_skb(). > Otherwise it should be increased until the UDP datagrams is >

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-19 Thread David Miller
From: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:09:29 +0800 > In any case, I just looked up RFC1213 and it says: > > udpInDatagrams OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX Counter > ACCESS read-only > STATUS mandatory > DESCRIPTION

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-18 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:40:10PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > This can be fixed, the above cannot. That's a good point. Perhaps one way of getting that info to the user without putting it in UDPInDatagrams is to create an inet_diag interface for UDP and put the number of queued packets for ea

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-18 Thread Wang Chen
David Miller said the following on 2007-11-19 6:40: > We could defer the increment until we check the checksum, > but that is likely to break even more things because people > (as Wang Chen did initially) will send a packet to some > port with an app that doesn't eat the packets, and expect the > I

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-18 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:40:10PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > The networking stack DID receive the packet. Just because a socket > owner is busy doing something else or blocked on some other event > is no excuse not to bump the InDataGgrams counter. Actually if we ever implement the memory re

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-18 Thread David Miller
From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:45:15 +0100 > > We could defer the increment until we check the checksum, > > but that is likely to break even more things because people > > (as Wang Chen did initially) will send a packet to some > > port with an app that doesn't eat

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-18 Thread Stephen Hemminger
David Miller wrote: From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:18:46 +0100 Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert Xu said the following on 2007-11-16 12:11: Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I think the checksum in udp_queue_rcv_skb(

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-18 Thread Andi Kleen
> We could defer the increment until we check the checksum, > but that is likely to break even more things because people > (as Wang Chen did initially) will send a packet to some > port with an app that doesn't eat the packets, and expect the > InDatagrams counter to increase once the stack eats t

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-17 Thread David Miller
From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:18:46 +0100 > Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Herbert Xu said the following on 2007-11-16 12:11: > >> Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> So, I think the checksum in udp_queue_rcv_skb() actually does > >>> the work,

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-17 Thread Andi Kleen
Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Herbert Xu said the following on 2007-11-16 12:11: >> Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> So, I think the checksum in udp_queue_rcv_skb() actually does >>> the work, not that in udp_recvmsg() and udp_poll(). >>> >>> If I am wrong, please point out. >>

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-16 Thread Benny Amorsen
> "DM" == David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DM> When the user does a recvmsg() or a poll() on the socket, we will DM> notice the bad checksum then and increment InErrors. We could in DM> this case correct the InDatagrams counter by decrementing it in DM> this case. Does that mean that

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread Wang Chen
Herbert Xu said the following on 2007-11-16 12:11: > Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So, I think the checksum in udp_queue_rcv_skb() actually does >> the work, not that in udp_recvmsg() and udp_poll(). >> >> If I am wrong, please point out. > > We may have a bug in the accounting area. Ch

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread Wang Chen
David Miller said the following on 2007-11-16 12:04: > From: Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:18:16 +0800 > > That's right, InDataGrams will increase even if we haven't > verified the checksum yet. > > When the user does a recvmsg() or a poll() on the socket, > we will no

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread Herbert Xu
Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I think the checksum in udp_queue_rcv_skb() actually does > the work, not that in udp_recvmsg() and udp_poll(). > > If I am wrong, please point out. We may have a bug in the accounting area. Check the recent patch made to UDP/IPv6 which is probably ne

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread David Miller
From: Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:18:16 +0800 > Actually, I tested and found this issue. > I sent 50 udp packets, which have wrong checksum, to my > machine. > Before the patch being applied, /proc/net/snmp's udp > InDatagrams increased, and InErrors didn't increase. >

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread Wang Chen
David Miller said the following on 2007-11-16 10:54: > From: Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:46:26 +0800 > >> The current kernel doesn't verify the udp checksum if user doesn't set a >> socket filter.It's fine for LAN. But for WAN, it's not a good option. >> Shall we fix

[PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread Wang Chen
Dave, The current kernel doesn't verify the udp checksum if user doesn't set a socket filter.It's fine for LAN. But for WAN, it's not a good option. Shall we fix it? Below is the patch to make udp checksum be always available. [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter Make udp c

Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IPV4] UDP: Always checksum even if without socket filter

2007-11-15 Thread David Miller
From: Wang Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:46:26 +0800 > The current kernel doesn't verify the udp checksum if user doesn't set a > socket filter.It's fine for LAN. But for WAN, it's not a good option. > Shall we fix it? Below is the patch to make udp checksum be always > avail