Hello everyone,
It's been some time since I've been subscribed/replied/posted here (or
on WISPA for that matter). I've been pretty busy running a non profit
startup (protip: don't do that. It's really really terrible) :) I'm
cofounder and CTO of the Free Networking Foundation. Our goal is to
On 2014-04-04 09:08, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
On 4/3/14, 4:52 PM, char...@thefnf.org wrote:
Hello everyone,
It's been some time since I've been subscribed/replied/posted here (or
on WISPA for that matter). I've been pretty busy running a non profit
startup (protip: don't do that. It's really rea
On 2014-05-14 02:04, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
On 14-05-13 22:50, Daniel Staal wrote:
They have the money. They have the ability to get more money. *They
see
no reason to spend money making customers happy.* They can make more
profit without it.
There is the issue of control over the mar
On 2014-05-13 16:37, Kyle Leissner wrote:
I would like recommendations on the following software/hardware
elements required to run an access network. Assume you are building a
greenfield network using a combination of access technologies such as
DSL, GPON, AE, and WiFi.
What a timely thread! W
On 2014-05-30 16:09, Alain Hebert wrote:
Well happy friday.
We're planning to build a MPLS lab this summer.
What's this? Operational related content on a Friday? *angrily hurls
popcorn across the room*. LOL.
MPLS lab sounds cool. For students? Already experienced engineers?
Simulating
On 2014-06-02 07:19, Andrew Latham wrote:
I use OpenVPN to access an Admin/sandboxed network with insecure
portals,
wiki, and ipmi.
Same here. My entire in band management plane (DRAC
(disk/cpu/temperature etc telemetry to my OpenManage/Zenoss server),
OpenSSH and 80/443 for backend stuffs
On 2014-07-10 21:40, Randy Bush wrote:
Trying to play both sides of the issue like that in the same
paragraph is just...dizzying.
if we filtered or otherwise prevented conjecturbation, jumping to
conclusions based on misuse of tools, hyperbole, misinformation, fud,
and downright lying, how woul
e as well, but not the primary purpose of this
message. :)
Thanks!
Charles Wyble
CTO Free Network Foundation
On 2014-07-24 12:04, Valdis Kletnieks wrote:
So the EFF is pushing development of an open CPU router
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/building-open-wireless-router
https://openwireless.org/
It's currently targeting WNDR3800's and based on the CeroWRT software
(which works pretty well in my
On 2014-07-25 00:06, George Herbert wrote:
Any idea how well CeroWRT stands up to nation-state level intrusion
efforts?
Interesting question.
It uses OpenWRT as a base. IPTables for the firewall. So that's a pretty
big code base right there (though certainly a bit less than a comparable
x86
On 2014-07-24 11:39, Josh Baird wrote:
FCC licensing? No licenses as long as you operate in unlicensed
bands (ie, 900mhz/2.4ghz/5).
Yes. This is correct. Also no licensing needed for 24ghz. We are rolling
out a dual uplink 24ghz AirFiber back bone in the next couple of weeks.
The FNF has o
On 2014-07-25 12:22, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:38 -0700, George Herbert said:
Any idea how well CeroWRT stands up to nation-state level intrusion
efforts?
If they are as determined as FBI v Scarfo (the FBI pulled a black bag
job
to install a keystroke logger in
I highly recommend pfsense for a firewall (been using pfsense and
m0n0wall for years), but do have some concerns about using it at scale
for (several) thousands of users.
So far it's gone fairly well for the existing subscriber base. The
current service footprint is ~1k homes. I think it's r
On 2014-07-22 18:20, Nolan Rollo wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a
Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good
selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good
location for a Network Admin and where in the US would yo
On 2014-08-10 10:19, Gabriel Marais wrote:
Hi Nanog
I'm curious.
I have been receiving some major ssh brute-force attacks coming from
random
hosts in the 116.8.0.0 - 116.11.255.255 network. I have sent a
complaint to
the e-mail addresses obtained from a whois query on one of the IP
Addresses
On 2014-08-12 09:23, Toney Mareo wrote:
Hello
I think it's kind of an isp secret but I would be curious how do
people distribute modems to pools before they would even reach the
actual IP network so on layer2:
http://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/papers/evaluation/docsis/Service_Distribution.jpg
On 2014-08-12 15:06, me wrote:
Ran across this paper the other day and didn't know how big a problem
it was. Looks like Eduardo's post confirms it.
http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/c51ce4107047eb1b2dc/Ants%20in%20OSP%20Equipment.pdf.pdf
Now that is fascinating. I like how they reprodu
Hi everybody,
It's been a long time since I've kicked up a new thread here on ye ol
nanog.
Recently I've been putting some serious thought into home "budget" data
centers. What started out as a little router/switch/virt server lab by
me/myself/I in 2008, has turned into a multisite (7 points
What's the collective opinion here? Is anyone using them or a similar
service? Are there non-cloud-based alternatives that are relatively
easy
to set up and manage? We've explored Zabbix, Nagios, MRTG and its
various wrappers, and Intermapper. Anything else new on the horizon
that
has a GUI
Consider setting up a separate zone or zones (via VLAN) for devices
with embedded TCP/IP stacks. I have worked in several shops using
switched power units from APC, SynAccess, and TrippLite, and find that
the TCP/IP stacks in those units are a bit fragile when confronted
with a lot of traffic,
On 2015-05-08 13:53, John Levine wrote:
Some people I know (yes really) are building a system that will have
several thousand little computers in some racks.
How many racks?
How many computers per rack unit? How many computers per rack?
(How are you handling power?)
How big is each computer?
On 2015-05-08 18:20, Phil Bedard wrote:
The real answer to this is being able to cram them into a single
chassis which can multiplex the network through a backplane.
Something like the HP Moonshot ARM system or the way others like
Google build high density compute with integrated Ethernet switchi
So I just crunched the numbers. How many pies could I cram in a rack?
Check my numbers?
48U rack budget
6513 15U (48-15) = 33U remaining for pie
6513 max of 576 copper ports
Pi dimensions:
3.37 l (5 front to back)
2.21 w (6 wide)
0.83 h
25 per U (rounding down for Ethernet cable space etc) =
On 2015-05-09 11:57, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
The standard 48 port with 2 port uplink 1U switch is far from full
depth.
You put them in the back of the rack and have the small computers in
the
front. You might even turn the switches around, so the ports face
inwards
into the rack. The network cab
On 2015-05-13 19:42, na...@cdl.asgaard.org wrote:
Greetings,
Do we really need them to be swappable at that point? The reason we
swap HDD's (if we do) is because they are rotational, and mechanical
things break.
Right.
Do we swap CPUs and memory hot?
Nope. Usually just toss the whole thin
On 2015-05-19 14:23, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
Hello!
Somebody definitely should build full feature router with
DPDK/netmap/pf_ring :)
Netmap yes. The rest no. Why? Because netmap supports libpcap, which
means everything just works. Other solutions need porting.
You are going along, someone ment
On 2015-05-20 08:17, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
Hello!
Ray, I could suggest switch from multi physical CPU configuration to
single. Like Intel Xeon E5-1650/1660/1680 or even Xeon E3 platforms.
Because multi processor systems need really huge amount of knowledge
for NUMA configuration and PCI-E device
On 2015-05-21 06:15, Zayed Mahmud wrote:
I've tried cacti but failed to get desired logs. i've also tried bind
graph...but it consumes too much memory in the long run.
How constrained are your servers? What is "too much memory"? What logs
are you looking for?
Have you tried looking at the s
As someone who is under 35, this comment strikes a chord with me. I
started
self-studying networking when I was 15ish, yet I had to wait until I
was 26
before I could get a full time job in the industry. I even had to move
out
of my home country. Getting a solid start in the industry was
ex
On 2015-06-19 05:01, Bob Evans wrote:
Ubiquiti Networks UniFi UAP-PRO Enterprise WiFi System - hard to
recommend
at this point. We saw people mention this brand here on the list -
people
like them. So what could we have set incorrectly ? They drop link and
re-provision on their own at odd times
On 2015-06-19 08:51, Mel Beckman wrote:
Bob, I've deployed tons of Ubiquiti gear, and have seen this problem
before. It always turns out to be poor quality cable installation. POE
does not tolerate low quality connectors, especially in outdoor
environments. There are many aspects to a quality ca
On 2015-06-19 11:57, Bob Evans wrote:
Thank You Charles,
Been on NANOG a while - all the basic stuff we know well. Like, cables,
cluster occurrences etc. Looking for the UniFi specific experience. Its
not the switches, power, cables, ports show no CRC issues etc.
Sure. I've seen you a
These two issues alone have caused me major issues with the devices
randomly being unable to get new configurations or download firmware
updates.
Question. Once they have connected and are "happy", do they drop off (re
provision) like Bob is mentioning?
I'm still not entirely sure what is m
Twitter URL is an rss feed as well.
--Original Message--
From: JoeSox
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: OOB customer communications (Re: Looking for Support Contact at
Equifax)
Sent: Apr 26, 2009 8:08 PM
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Lewinski wrote:
> We're experimenting with Twi
This has been a fascinating theoritcal discussion.. how do existing providers
hand out space?
Hurricane electric (via its tunnel service) hands out a /64 by default and a
/48 is a click away.
How do other providers handle it? I'm in the us and only have native v4
connectivity :(
Do the vari
Re sending... I know operational content is frowned on :) ... However in an
effort to avoid this thread getting kicked to the curb... we have just seen
days of the same arguments between the same posters over and over. Let's gather
some data on current operational (there's that evil word aga
Thanks for the in depth reply.
There have been many v6 threads and perhaps I haven't paid enough attention or
looked hard enough for the answers. :)
I will send a more detailed reply tomorrow when I'm at a mail client that can
do in line replies. :)
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Hope you did that scan from covad. Lol. *ducks*
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
Um Aren't dsl addresses handed out over ipcp? So perhaps a bit more static
then dhcp?
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-Original Message-
From: Bobby Mac
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:57:56
To:
Subject: Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0?
Just wondering but the knowledge I have of D
Owamp?
--Original Message--
From: Frank Bulk - iName.com
To: 'Steve Bertrand'
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
ReplyTo: frnk...@iname.com
Subject: RE: Gigabit speed test anybody?
Sent: Mar 27, 2009 3:33 PM
I believe there is an ITU standard for testing that could be looked at, but
if you went with th
Netem is a very cool tool! Thanks for mentioning it.
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beros/radius/VPN deployment and how we load test/scale it.
i have yet to see any existing information on the back end components
specifically related to muni wifi.
I would imagine standard documentation/white papers related to scaling a large
enterprise wifi network apply.
Charles
--Ori
What kind of existing connectivity do you have? Who provides your local loop?
Verizon provides ipv6 connectivity according to their website.
At&t most likely does as well.
Charles
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-Original Message-
From: "Mike Linsenmayer" <
La as in Los Angeles? Or Louisiana?
There we're numerous strange issues last night in Los Angeles with T-Mobile
that were caused by att loosing some oc12 circuits.
That could have affected other carriers I'm sure.
--Original Message--
From: ChiYoung Joung
To: nanog
ReplyTo: [EMAIL PRO
When did this become slashdot?
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That is one long protect path. Yikes.
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Have you looked into any cmdb systems?
There are some good open source ones. Opencmdb.org I think.
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I run openvpn on my linux box to do exactly that. Already running
apache/bind/postfix/xmpp with legacy Im bridges so adding openvpn was a logical
next step.
#protip run it on port 443. :) makes it much easier to get around firewalls.
Even with deep packet inspection, SSL traffic is expected o
l its vital for folks to have a deep familiarity with
openvpn and best practices etc.
--Original Message--
From: Randy Bush
To: Charles Wyble
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: dns interceptors
Sent: Feb 14, 2010 7:10 PM
> I run openvpn on my linux box to do exactly that.
i am in the
Yes. Easy rsa is the way to go.
They are normal certs. Check the scripts if you want to roll your own openssl
wrapper scripts.
--Original Message--
From: Larry Brower
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: dns interceptors
Sent: Feb 14, 2010 7:44 PM
Randy Bush wrote:
> end user to network
Alright can someone moderate this thread and shut it down please?
--Original Message--
From: Tomas L. Byrnes
To: andrew.wallace
To: Randy Bush
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
Sent: Feb 20, 2010 7:49 PM
Right, because GCHQ doesn't/hasn't/never would do such a th
Does it work with IPv6?
--Original Message--
From: Marshall Eubanks
To: nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: FCC releases Internet speed test tool
Sent: Mar 12, 2010 5:43 AM
This might be useful to some.
Article :
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62B08720100312
site :
http://www.broadb
Mods,
Can we get the spam off the list? Its getting old.
--Original Message--
From: Guillaume FORTAINE
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: CSIRT - Backbone Security : Runtime Monitoring and
DynamicReconfiguration for Intrusion Detection Systems
Sent: Mar 17, 2010 5:14 PM
Misses, Misters,
Le
On 4/5/21 10:23 PM, Robert Brockway wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote:
What happened is that it would create a kind of internal DDoS and
they would all timed out and give a weird error message. Something
very useful like Error Code 0x8098808 Please call our support l
Not Perl, though this may be useful depending on your environment:
https://github.com/rus-cert/compress-cidr
The examples are for IPv6, though I use it to consolidate lists of IPv4 in a
variety of jobs/scripts without issue. YMMV.
From: NANOG on behalf of John Von Essen
This sounds like something BMP might be useful for. I haven't used it, but
I would look at OpenBMP (https://github.com/SNAS/openbmp) as a starting
point. I'm not familiar with what commercial offerings are out there, but
I'm sure there are some.
On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Sandoiu Mihai wrote:
lt;https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7942>
RFC 8142: GeoJSON Text Sequences
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8142>
RFC 8805: A Format for Self-Published IP Geolocation Feeds
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8805>
RFC 9092: Finding and Using Geofeed Dat
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:05 AM Kevin McCormick wrote:
>
> IRR Explorer is showing RPKI-Invalid. Maybe RPKI is causing the issue or
> there is an issue with IRR Explorer?
>
> https://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/prefix/86.104.228.0/24
>
> I do see RIPE and Cloudflare are showing RPKI as valid.
>
> https
along!
>#TooBigToFail.
>
>
>C.
I may be wrong and if so, I am happy to be corrected, but I don't think that
statement is entirely true. The certificate not only encrypts the connection,
it also verifies that you are connecting to the server you intend to. That
second component is a security measure.
Charles Bronson
saw it down as well. came back for me in < 5 minutes.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> Web interface is broken, downdetector sure sees activity. This attempt is
> from mobile.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> T
s.com).
I have NO idea who to discuss this with. I could not even find a "Contact
Us" to use on their website.
Regards,
--
Charles Gagnon
http://unixrealm.com
The reports I've seen showing it as a worldwide outage.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:14 PM Nathan Brookfield <
nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au> wrote:
> Australia too….
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG *On Behalf Of *Oliver O'Boyle
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:08 PM
> *To:* marshall.euba...@gma
ens would have been well tolerated, even
welcomed, in the "C Suite" anyways.
--
Charles Polisher
I'm seeing an uptick from Apple's AS6185, along with the usual CDNs,
all around that time. Looks like there is a new iOS update (17.3).
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 9:19 AM Aaron Gould wrote:
>
> Anyone else see a lot of traffic inbound from the Internet last night
> (early this morning) at ~3:00 a.m.
On 4/1/24 07:14, chris wrote:
ROFL. networking is a stream of zeros and one's. You are either 0 or 1 :))
Completely ignoring the real hardware layer where
it's all about eye diagrams, transitioning constantly.
Between voltage levels. Or I guess lumens. Or phase
shifts. Pick your poison^H^H^H
loor were often available during the show as resources to
answer questions or help with issues.
As a result of Dan's efforts the Interop conferences were a very
valuable resource both for attendees and vendors for a number of
years.
-Charles
--
Charles Spurgeon
c.spurg...@austin.utexas.e
On 4/18/24 11:45, Aaron Gould wrote:
Thanks. What "all the ethernet control frame juju" might you be
referring to? I don't recall Ethernet, in and of itself, just sending
stuff back and forth. Does anyone know if this FEC stuff I see
concurring is actually contained in Ethernet Frames?
If this isn't pertinent to the list, feel free to answer privately. How did you
implement the server that got rid of ARP storms?
Charles Bronson
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Satchell
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:31
Can anyone from these areas recommend someone? I know Expedient is in
Cleveland but would like others to look at as well.
Feel free to contact me off list.
Chuck
some sort of
> way I can help get it processed?
I submitted one over a year ago. Still not sure who's running it these days.
charles
ice,
would love to see the authentication enhanced, but otherwise I don't
have any complaints.I encourage others to use the service
regularly and am glad to see it getting some attention, we just need
to make sure to channel the attention into enhancements and not
limitations.
thanks,
charles
Does anybody have a technical contact for United Airlines? I can't seem to
get in touch with any of the phone numbers or email addresses listed in
whois.
Regards,
Nathan Charles
Does anybody have a technical contact for United Airlines? I can't seem to
get in touch with any of the phone numbers or email addresses listed in
whois.
Regards,
Nathan Charles
address this on a daily basis until resolved.
Our peering folks will continue to pester Verizon's non-commercial
folks by requesting settlement free peers but until enough people
complain to Verizon the requests will fall on deaf ears.
thanks,
charles
percent are just whoopsies that should be re-aggregated?
>
And of those TE routes, how many can be suppressed by way of BGP
Communities with their respective upstream providers ...
charles
and Netflix is
temporary, much like what happened between Comcast and Level(3).
charles
> But regardless of the financial arrangements, such a connection doesn't
> require an ASN or BGP. In fact, it doesn't even require a registered IP
> address at either end! A simple Ethernet connection (or a leased line of any
> kind, in fact; it could just as well be a virtual circuit) and a stati
numbers business, let them do it as it's their
business, not yours. I will not respond further and we can let
this thread finally die.
- charles
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 05:17:55PM -0700, George Herbert wrote:
>
>> Micron has some large-cap SLC drives in the chain for
>> September/October/ish timeframes.
>>
>> Ramdisk with rsync or rdiffbackup to spinning storage will do just fine.
>
> O
Could be something related to the earlier cookie controversy that was
discussed.
I did dig too deeply into exactly what they were doing however.
Chuck
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Glen Kent wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see that i have multiple TCP sessions established with facebook.
> They come up e
+1
On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
> > What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core
> > switch". I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
> > I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environme
Cogent had some planned maintenance during the 2-4a timeframe.
Furthermore there was some sluggishness and packet loss for some of my
customers that *seemed* to be centered around Ashburn, VA around 9-9:30 but
cleared up before I could get a good look at it or even before where it was
situated.
goes
over gblx or cogent. Has anyone heard of problem with these carriers
out of Texas?
--
Charles Gagnon
charlesg at unixrealm.com
t;
> http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass
> http://www.globalcrossing.com/network/network_looking_glass.aspx
>
> We are connected to both providers, so everything is looking clean for us.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric Tykwinski
> TrueNet, Inc.
> P: 610-429-8300
>
Against my better judgment to get in the middle of this classic
discussion, two points...
One, many firewalls have fail-safe capabilities, in addition to fail-secure;
even if they didn't it could be trivially programmed, or configured to
do so in series,
and as configuration is fairly arbitrary t
Having worked on plenty of industrial and other control systems I can
safely say security on the systems is generally very poor. The
vulnerabilities have existed for years but are just now getting attention.
This is a problem that doesn't really need a bunch of new legislation.
It's an educati
I've used Kiwi Cattools as well as some homegrown perl and shell script
stuff for versioning / audit trails.
Cattools works OK and scales. Unsure of pricing structure though.
I never liked Ciscoworks for doing it even though it will manage your
devices that way.
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:51 A
remote
personnel in a non bgp enabled sp).
Would love to hear what you folks think.
--
Charles Wyble
char...@thefnf.org / 818 280 7059
CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org)
t node I'm using.
charles
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-02, at 11:51, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
>> But since Perry's problem is *inability to resolve names in google's
>> public zones*, the *path to the ZONE servers* is the thi
>More on the same topic.
>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/05/ragebooter-legit-ddos-service-or-fed-backdoor/#more-19475
>
>Maybe the FBI use this to commit crimes in USA using a foreign company
>as proxy so nothing dirty show on the books. That way the FBI can
>avoid respecting USA laws
y
kind of retaliation. They don't need to hide.
Mike Hale wrote:
>"Sue them?"
>Uhm...yes? That's why we have courts that we can sue federal agencies
>in.
>
>On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Charles Wyble
> wrote:
>> No proxy needed. No need to hide
al
>> lawyers salivate.
>>
>> I'm not trying to call you out, btw. I'm genuinely curious why the
>> hosting company itself didn't file suit. You've got a US Government
>> agency abusing your resources and acting in a blatantly illegal
>> manner.
1/ps9670/C07-572829-01_Design_N5K_N2K_vPC_DG.pdf
-Charles
Charles E. Spurgeon / UTnet
UT Austin ITS / Networking
c.spurg...@its.utexas.edu / 512.475.9265
www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps9441/ps9670/C07-572832-00_VMware_ESX4_Nexus_DG.pdf
-Charles
Charles E. Spurgeon / UTnet
UT Austin ITS / Networking
c.spurg...@its.utexas.edu / 512.475.9265
e supplied to them globally on every server.
So they use unicast servers behind a DNS based geo load balancer
configuration. As for DNS, every anycasted node is expected to be
able to resolve any DNS request that is made.
It's all a matter of disk and acceptable delay in providing the data
from the "closest" disk.
charles
Not understanding RFC1918. Actually got read the riot act by someone
because I worked for an organization that used 10.0.0.0/8 and that was
"their" network and "they" owned it.
Chuck
2012/2/15 Masataka Ohta
> Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> > This doesn't prove that IPv6 is not operational. All it pr
I didn't even respond. I think many of these
high-pressure-aggressive-types always have an answer like that conveniently
vague enough as to give them an "out".
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
>
> \o/ i got one too, i'l
I've been getting voicemails from someone, leaving a first name only saying
they have question that only I can answer. Dangling bait like that is a
big red flag so they don't get a callback.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Justin M. Streiner <
strei...@cluebyfour.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2
Original poster who started thread said he would.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:51 AM, -Hammer- wrote:
> If you do, please share it. Thank you.
>
>
> -Hammer-
>
> "I was a normal American nerd"
> -Jack Herer
>
>
>
> On 2/17/2012 9:36 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, -Hammer-
Municipalities and Telco's were written back
in the 20's and 30's.So, the "restriction" would have to be put
into terms of that agreement.
But in the end, it's up to the Municipality to set the guidelines (as
with any local law) within the borders of their Municipality.
charles
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