Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/23/22 12:00 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: On 5/23/22 11:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote: The Fiber Broadband Association estimates that the average US household will need more than a gig within 5 years.  Why not just jump it to a gig or more? Really? What is the average household doing to use up

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
That’s true of every large game I play these days as well. Obviously there may be game developers that remain stupid and I suggest that’s an issue to take up with them rather than an issue that is relevant to this debate. Owen > On May 31, 2022, at 08:06 , Mike Hammett wrote: > > "However, t

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 1:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 5/23/22 12:00 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > > > > On 5/23/22 11:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote: > >> The Fiber Broadband Association estimates that the average US > >> household will need more than a gig within 5 years. Why not just jump > >> it

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/1/22 10:10 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 5/23/22 12:00 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: On 5/23/22 11:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote: The Fiber Broadband Association estimates that the average US household will need more than a gig within 5 years.  Why not just jump it to a gig or more? Really? W

Comcast: "Reloading Statics" today

2022-06-01 Thread Aaron de Bruyn via NANOG
Just a heads-up for the Comcast crew lurking here... I've had 3 different cable connections (Oregon and Washington State) go down in the last ~1.5 hours. Staff on-site have tried rebooting the modem with no success. When we call support, they say something along the lines of "huh, that's odd...you

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
>> Saying most people don't need more than 25 Mbps is like saying 640k is >> enough for anybody. The challenge is any definition of capacity (speed) requirements is only a point-in-time gauge of sufficiency given the mix of apps popular at the time & any such point-in-time gauge will look silly

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread John Schiel
Terrain has a lot to do with the service you can get. Twenty five miles west of Denver are technically foothills but it is a lot of mountainous terrain. No company wants to run any cable up there. --John On 5/24/22 09:48, Mitchell Tanenbaum via NANOG wrote: I have two fixed wireless Internet

RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Mitchell Tanenbaum via NANOG
Believe it or not, there is cable within 500 yards, but they won’t extend it. (: Mitch From: NANOG On Behalf Of John Schiel Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 8:42 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Terrain has a lot to do wi

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/1/22 8:12 PM, Mitchell Tanenbaum via NANOG wrote: Believe it or not, there is cable within 500 yards, but they won’t extend it. (: 50 feet across the street from me on the east side of the road is AT&T FTTH territory. My side of the street is not. F the west side apparently.