Call for Presentations - CHI-NOG 10 - (Chicago Network Operators Group) - May 28th, 2020

2020-02-17 Thread Tom Kacprzynski
*CHI-NOG 10 - (Chicago Network Operators Group)May 28th, 2020, Chicago, IL* The Chicago Network Operators Group (CHI-NOG) is a vendor neutral organization. Our goal is to create a regional community of network professionals by presenting the latest technology trends, enabling collaboration and pro

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Gene LeDuc
I was a student worker at a computer lab at USC in the 70s and a buddy had a system operator job at ISI in Marina Del Rey. One day he connected to his office from my lab via a 300baud acoustic modem and then got on the ARPA-NET. From there he connected to a system called ATLAS in the UK. I h

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Gene LeDuc wrote: > > I was a student worker at a computer lab at USC in the 70s and a buddy had a > system operator job at ISI in Marina Del Rey. One day he connected to his > office from my lab via a 300baud acoustic modem and then got on the ARPA-NET. >

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Clayton Zekelman
So it was YOUR fault the phone at the Fotomat was always busy when I tried calling to check if my prints were done? At 01:20 PM 17/02/2020, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: When I got my next computer (and first portable) shortly thereafter (a TRS Model 100) I got acoustic cups for it, and su

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread nanog08
Back in 1973 I was hired by Tymshare to "hack" Tymnet and some of the various systems (XDS 940, PDP-10s) - I was 15.  Tymshare provided me with a Teletype ASR-33 (with the built in tape punch and reader).  I had an AJ 300 baud acoustic coupler.  We had a second phone line installed, 'cause my d

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Tom Beecher
Wasn’t that CNID where PRIs ignored the flag set not to present the data? On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 15:01 wrote: > > On January 27, 2020 at 22:57 ma...@isc.org (Mark Andrews) wrote: > > The hardware support was 2B+D but you could definitely just use a > single B. 56k vs 64k depended on where yo

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Gene LeDuc
I remember that TI luggable - that sucker weighed a ton! I dragged it from the lab to my dorm a few times to log in remotely, but carrying it on a bicycle was a dicey deal and I got over the novelty pretty quickly. I'd forgotten who made it until you mentioned it - good memories! Gene On 2/

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Paul Ebersman
gleduc> I remember that TI luggable - that sucker weighed a ton! U of I used those in the libraries. I remember looking up books for inter-library/lincoln trail and handing the printout to students. Problem was that clay or whatever it was that made the paper worked didn't last for more than a mon

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Clayton Zekelman
A PRI was and still is 23B+D, not 24 2B+D lines. 23B+D (ISDN PRI or Primary Rate Interface) is 23x64 kbps bearer channels and a 64 kbps Delta channel carried on a B8ZS T1 You could carry additional groups of 24 B channels using NFAS, or Non-Facility Associated Signalling where the D channe

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Feb/20 22:43, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > A PRI was and still is 23B+D, not 24 2B+D lines. In Africa (and much of Europe and Asia, I believe), our PRI's were E1's, which was 30B+2D (CCS and CAS protocols), for a total carriage bandwidth of 2.048Mbps. For E1, timeslot 0 is used for clocki

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Brian
> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Gene LeDuc wrote: Does this thread make me not only think about the days of old, but also makes me feel older! Not going back as far as some here but around 1993ish... My first connection back in the day was a shell account I was given as consultant and reseller f

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Ben Cannon
First non-POTS was an Ascend Pipeline 50. I may even still have it somewhere. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Feb 17, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Brian wrote: > >> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Gene LeDuc wrote: > > Does this thread make m

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
I can't help myself... :) My mother in the 1980s: "no one can ever call us because the phone line is always busy" Me with an Osborne 1 and a 300 baud modem: "We need a second phone line!" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1) My mother: "That's too expensive. Quit clogging up the ph

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Mike Lyon
Then call waiting came out and would disconnect the session sometimes. That sucked ass. > On Feb 17, 2020, at 16:37, Scott Weeks wrote: > >  > > I can't help myself... :) > > > > My mother in the 1980s: "no one can ever call us because the phone line is > always busy" > > Me with an Osbo

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread nanog08
Speaking of dial up... I remember on a trip I got the hotel sometime after 2am (bad weather, bad flight). I was trying to dial out from hotel - 9 to get an outside line, then "pause" and then 1 for long distance and 202 for the area code. I mistyped the phone number or something, and I was no