Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Gabriel Marais
Hi Nanog I'm curious. I have been receiving some major ssh brute-force attacks coming from random hosts in the 116.8.0.0 - 116.11.255.255 network. I have sent a complaint to the e-mail addresses obtained from a whois query on one of the IP Addresses. My e-mail bounced back from both recipients.

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Paul S.
It would appear you've done your part in trying to reach out (and subsequently failed), so the next step to go is dropping all traffic from it. Nothing wrong with trying to protect your own customer from people who cannot be bothered to do their own due diligence. On 8/11/2014 午前 12:19, Gabr

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 08/10/2014 08:19 AM, Gabriel Marais wrote: > Hi Nanog > > I'm curious. > > I have been receiving some major ssh brute-force attacks coming from random > hosts in the 116.8.0.0 - 116.11.255.255 network. I have sent a complaint to > the e-mail addresses obtained from a whois query on one of the

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread John Levine
>My e-mail bounced back from both recipients. Once being rejected by filter >and the other because the e-mail address doesn't exist. I would have >thought that contact details are rather important to be up to date, or not? Opinions vary. Some providers would rather just cash the customers' checks

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Gabriel Marais wrote: I have been receiving some major ssh brute-force attacks coming from random hosts in the 116.8.0.0 - 116.11.255.255 network. I have sent a complaint to the e-mail addresses obtained from a whois query on one of the IP Addresses. My e-mail bounced back

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Christopher Rogers
http://www.fail2ban.org/ 2014-08-10 10:18 GMT-07:00 Jon Lewis : > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Gabriel Marais wrote: > > I have been receiving some major ssh brute-force attacks coming from >> random >> hosts in the 116.8.0.0 - 116.11.255.255 network. I have sent a complaint >> to >> the e-mail addre

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Alexander Merniy
Move ssh to a non-standart port + fail2ban - best solution. On 10 Aug 2014, at 22:20, Christopher Rogers wrote: > http://www.fail2ban.org/ > > > > > 2014-08-10 10:18 GMT-07:00 Jon Lewis : > >> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Gabriel Marais wrote: >> >> I have been receiving some major ssh brute-forc

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Mike Hale
Well...is it really a problem though? I mean, a good password will require how many centuries of effort to brute force? I've never seen a single IP (or even a range of IPs) trying to brute force the same user account over more than a day, much less the huge amount of time required the crack the p

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread goemon
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Paul S. wrote: It would appear you've done your part in trying to reach out (and subsequently failed), so the next step to go is dropping all traffic from it. Nothing wrong with trying to protect your own customer from people who cannot be bothered to do their own due dili

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Aug 10, 2014, at 1:28 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Paul S. wrote: >> It would appear you've done your part in trying to reach out (and >> subsequently failed), so the next step to go is dropping all traffic from it. >> >> Nothing wrong with trying to protect your own cu

New ARIN Remittance Address

2014-08-10 Thread John Curran
Folks - ARIN recently changed its lockbox service provider, and hence now has a new mailing address for payments. If you coordinate the registration services payments for your organization, it is worth confirming that payments are now going to the new address (per attached). FYI, /John

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread David Conrad
On Aug 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: >> It would be nice if allocations would be revoked due to invalid/fake contact >> info. > > That’s been debated many times, in most of the RIRs, and has not resulted in > any persistent policies that I remember offhand. The tide may turn, as i

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 10, 2014, at 1:28 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Paul S. wrote: >> It would appear you've done your part in trying to reach out (and >> subsequently failed), so the next step to go is dropping all traffic from it. >> >> Nothing wrong with trying to protect your own cu

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Owen DeLong writes: > > On Aug 10, 2014, at 1:28 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Paul S. wrote: > >> It would appear you've done your part in trying to reach out (and > >> subsequently failed), so the next step to go is dropping all traffic from > >> it. > >> >

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread goemon
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, David Conrad wrote: On Aug 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: It would be nice if allocations would be revoked due to invalid/fake contact info. That?s been debated many times, in most of the RIRs, and has not resulted in any persistent policies that I remember o

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread David Ford
i have numerous servers that must have open ssh access to everyone in multiple datacenters for several hundred users from many different and varying origins that change frequently. whitelist/blacklisting would be a nightmare. i use a PAM module that automatically adds every new ssh connection

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Good luck getting action from foreign LE through the mlat system You might get a response, oh, in the next two years or so. IF you can find local LE willing to push the case forward. Beyond that while RIRs are not the internet police they do owe it to the community to be more vigilant on dud cont

RE: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Tony Hain
I have found the scaling is better if you make it the abusing providers problem to contact you. Whenever a range gets blocked, the bounce message tells the mail originator to take their money and find a new hosting provider that does not support/tolerate spam. When legitimate originators have co

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Tony Hain wrote: > I have found the scaling is better if you make it the abusing providers > problem to contact you. It scales BEAUTIFULLY .. until your peer in support starts to yell at you about the off the scale ticket volume you've managed to dump on him with

2015 NANOG Election Announcement

2014-08-10 Thread Michael Smith
Hello NANOGers! We are once again approaching the annual NANOG election and appointment time. In addition to the Call for Nominations message, the following is an overview and timeline of the actual election process. We encourage those in the community who are not currently NANOG Members to con

Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts

2014-08-10 Thread Gabriel Marais