Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back

2013-09-07 Thread Sam Moats
I'm sorry if you don't share my view. Personally I think the Patriot Act is unconsitutional and CALEA is a tool to enable the total invasion of privacy. I think the laws need changed, I want to change. That said I will not break them and neither will you. How would/does your company respond to

Re: AlbertaIX - no longer a Cybera project?

2013-09-07 Thread Mike Leber
On 9/5/13 1:47 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: The last six months in AlbertaIX saw no discussions (or approval) for any action plan. Without votes, nothing can be built. This is probably the key ideological problem and a good example not to follow if you are trying to start an exchange. Do first,

Re: AlbertaIX - no longer a Cybera project?

2013-09-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
Mike Leber wrote: > Facility and parties willing, hopefully there will be a YYCIX switch in > Cybera. Interesting idea, how the heck did I miss that. It would depend on Cybera being open to the idea, which starts off with a reevaluation of the following "not-for-profit acting as an ISP of last re

Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Paul Ferguson
A Canadian ISP colleague of mine suggested that the NANOG constituency might be interested in this, given some recent 'revelations', so I forward it here for you perusal. "Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a phenomenon we call ‘boomerang routing’ whereby Canadian-

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Aaron Wendel
Not just a Canadian issue but one we should look at in the US as well. Deploying more IXs and routing our traffic direct instead of through the "big guys" can secure our own communications from our own government until we change who we have in office. Aaron On 9/7/2013 4:08 PM, Paul Ferguson

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread jim deleskie
Paul, I agree this is a problem, but its been a problem since at least 1994 ( my first exposure ) and I suspect longer, the issue is east we capacity in Canada is very $$, pushing traffic from Toronto east to points south to get it to Vancouver is much more cost effective. -jim On Sat, Sep 7

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Jorge Amodio
You have to change way more than that. BTW the one in office didn't start this. -Jorge On Sep 7, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Aaron Wendel wrote: > Not just a Canadian issue but one we should look at in the US as well. > Deploying more IXs and routing our traffic direct instead of through the "big > g

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Aaron Wendel wrote: > Not just a Canadian issue... Nor even a North American one. -Jim P.

RE: Yahoo is now recycling handles

2013-09-07 Thread Keith Medcalf
> > There's still the much more minor point that when I tried to "self > > serve" I ended up at a blank page on the Yahoo! web site, hopefully > > they will figure that out as well. > I'm continually amazed at the number of web designers that don't test > their pages with NoScript enabled. Just s

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
It's a good point to consider however that omits the probabilty that Canada is doing exactly the same thing as the U.S. and thus this may free you from certain legalities but does not actually ensure privacy. The other fact of this is that we are well aware that the NSA's database is being accessed

RE: Yahoo is now recycling handles

2013-09-07 Thread Keith Medcalf
The appropriate party to inform would be the FBI ... The word fraud comes to mind, and millions of 50 centses puts company officers in prison for a long long long time. > -Original Message- > From: Kee Hinckley [mailto:naz...@marrowbones.com] > Sent: Thursday, 5 September, 2013 11:28 >

RE: MTR for Android?

2013-09-07 Thread Keith Medcalf
Look for TRACEROUTE by SRCGUARDIAN in the Play Store. It needs network access only... Doesn't do TCP but does ICMP and UDP traceroutes and displays ASN as well ...

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Harald Koch
On 7 September 2013 17:08, Paul Ferguson wrote: > "Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a > phenomenon we call ‘boomerang routing’ whereby Canadian-to-Canadian > internet transmissions are routinely routed through the United States. > I sincerely hope that nobody in Canad

Re: MTR for Android?

2013-09-07 Thread Randy Bush
> Look for TRACEROUTE by SRCGUARDIAN in the Play Store. thanks. works.

RE: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back

2013-09-07 Thread Keith Medcalf
Sure it does. You have confidentiality between the parties who are speaking together against third-parties merely passively intercepting the communication. Authentication and Confidentiality are two completely separate things and can (and are) implemented separately. The only Authentication w

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 8, 2013, at 4:08 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > As a result, these transmissions expose Canadians to potential U.S. > surveillance activities – a violation of Canadian network sovereignty." Yes, far better to keep those communications within Canada - where CSEC can hand them over to GCHQ, w

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 8, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > There are no technical solutions to purely social ills. That should read, 'There are no purely technical solutions to social ills.' ;> --- Roland Dobbins //

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-07 Thread <<"tei''>>>
On 7 September 2013 18:09, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2013, at 4:08 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> As a result, these transmissions expose Canadians to potential U.S. >> surveillance activities – a violation of Canadian network sovereignty." > > Yes, far better to keep those communicatio