Re: Google news down

2013-06-24 Thread Joly MacFie
Maybe they are adjusting in preparation for Aug 1. http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/google-makes-google-news-in-germany-opt-in-only-to-avoid-paying-fees-under-new-copyright-law/ On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Warren Bailey wrote: > Seems to be isolated to the mobile site, if anyone finds it of

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Andra Lutu
Hi, From public routing data we can see a total of 2,419 /25s prefixes announced from at least one of the monitors active in RIPE RIS and RouteViews. None of the /25s are actually advertised by all these monitors i.e. the /25s reach some but not all the ASes which take part in these projects.

Re: Google news down

2013-06-24 Thread Grant Ridder
Mobile page works fine via the same comcast circuit as previously mentioned On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > Maybe they are adjusting in preparation for Aug 1. > > > http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/google-makes-google-news-in-germany-opt-in-only-to-avoid-paying-fees-under-

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 09:32:00PM -0400 Quoting shawn wilson (ag4ve...@gmail.com): > So, that's not a very good endorsement :) > > Idk why you'd use a fuse in a PDU. MCB units age. Especially with vibration. A 10A MCB becomes a 9A MCB after some miles. F

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Masataka Ohta
John Levine wrote: > I realize it's not quite that simple due to issues of longer prefixes > taking precedence over shorter ones, but it is my impression that > there's a lot of sloppiness. 16M /24 is just a cheap 16M entry SRAM. However, 16M /32 means 4G entry SRAM or 16M entry CAM. 16M entry

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Masataka Ohta
Daniel Suchy wrote: >> There are techniques to fix that. For example, Simple Virtual Aggregation >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6769 > I'm not sure, if hardware vendors will implement something like this. I > expect they'll sell you router with larger hardware FIB instead. As the RFC says:

RE: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-24 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
> route reflectors should be in the data plane, ... I believe in modern networks data-plane and control-plane(s) should be separated as it provides for great scalability and versatility the drawback of course is a more complex system to manage. adam

Re: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-24 Thread Randy Bush
>> route reflectors should be in the data plane, ... > I believe in modern networks data-plane and control-plane(s) should be > separated as it provides for great scalability and versatility the > drawback of course is a more complex system to manage. more complex systems scale poorly, break easil

Re: IPv6 adoption in the past few days

2013-06-24 Thread Randy Bush
> there is massive increase in IPv6 adoption (from 1.5% to 1.7%) in the > past few days. luckily i had my seatbelt fastened randy

Re: Network diagnostics for the end user

2013-06-24 Thread Eric
+1. It's especially helpful for wireless troubleshooting in a campus environment. You can get a lot of info from the AP, but tend not to know what the client is seeing and it's great for catching transient events (oh, whenever the elevator goes by...) Eric On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:29 AM, "Carl

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
Le 22/06/2013 00:27, Jakob Heitz a écrit : > There are techniques to fix that. For example, Simple Virtual Aggregation > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6769 The principle behind this RFC is that RAM (RIB) is cheap, CAM (FIB) is not. But it's mostly intended for SDN developpments. You need a full R

RE: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-24 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
-Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:32 PM To: Adam Vitkovsky Cc: 'John van Oppen'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering >>> route reflectors should be in the data plane, ... >> I believe in modern

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 22, 2013, at 16:16 , Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > On 22-06-13 17:30, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Looking at the number of autonomous systems in the IPv6 routing table and >> the total number of routes, it looks like it will shake out somewhere in the >> neighborhood of 3-5 prefixes/ASN. Since th

Contact at GoGo Internet?

2013-06-24 Thread Matt Simmons
For a reason that I'm unable to ascertain, GoGo In-Flight Internet can route to my university's network blog, but not to my specific college's. Does anyone have a contact there that I could reach out to and work to figure this out with? Thanks! --Matt Simmons -- LITTLE GIRL: But which cookie

Re: Contact at GoGo Internet?

2013-06-24 Thread Matt Simmons
And by "blog", of course I meant "block". Sorry! On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Matt Simmons < standalone.sysad...@gmail.com> wrote: > For a reason that I'm unable to ascertain, GoGo In-Flight Internet can > route to my university's network blog, but not to my specific college's. > > Does any

Re: Yahoo Postmaster

2013-06-24 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Andy B. wrote: > If there is a YAHOO! Postmaster contact available, can you please > contact me off list? > > I need to investigate a customer's "TS03" listing of a very large > netblock (/16) and I'm afraid regular Yahoo! forms are leading me > nowhere but frustr

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread ポール・ロラン
Hello, On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:56:02 -0600 Michael McConnell wrote: > As the IPv4 space get smaller and smaller, does anyone think we'll see a > time when /25's will be accepted for global BGP prefix announcement. The > current smallest size is a /24 and generally ok for most people, but the > cr

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread jim deleskie
I'm not going to even ask or look at who is accepting /26's -jim On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Paul Rolland wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:56:02 -0600 > Michael McConnell wrote: > > > As the IPv4 space get smaller and smaller, does anyone think we'll see a > > time when /25's w

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan - Lists
Does anyone on list have experience with the APC AP7920 switched rack PDU, or any of the horizontal rack mountables with management? We're looking at these for our remote sites. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Måns Nilsson wrote: > Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Date: Sun,

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Warren Bailey
We seem to always get calls from uplogix.. Check them out if you are considering managing pdu's etc. Their gear is pretty stout, and they have good to great support. Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Ryan - Lists Date: 06/24/2013 11:43 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Må

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 24, 2013, at 13:29 , Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:56:02 -0600 Michael McConnell > wrote: >> As the IPv4 space get smaller and smaller, does anyone think we'll see a >> time when /25's will be accepted for global BGP prefix announcement. The >> current smallest s

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Alain Hebert
Hi, Yes. They are good. Nothing I would deploy in a large data center but for a few racks they are perfect. Beware that they are not built to be connected straight to the internet =D. The management module can reset depending on packet payload and overall traffic. They

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread shawn wilson
Heh, I wouldn't dream of putting this type of device on the net - nothing good can come from that. On Jun 24, 2013 3:04 PM, "Alain Hebert" wrote: > Hi, > > Yes. > > They are good. > > Nothing I would deploy in a large data center but for a few racks > they are perfect. > > Bew

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan - Lists
Oh, absolutely. These would be secured on a separate, private network with very specific access controls. These remote sites are more "branch" than data center. Looking at a very limited amount of equipment (1-2 open telco racks/site). Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Alain Heb

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Scott Weeks
- william.allen.simpson wrote: - And at $189,950 MSRP, obviously every ISP is dashing out the door for a pair for each and every long haul fiber link. ;-) It's the same as buying, say, .nanog... >;-) --- g...@gdt.id.au wrote: From: Glen Turne

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/24/13 12:55 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: - william.allen.simpson wrote: - And at $189,950 MSRP, obviously every ISP is dashing out the door for a pair for each and every long haul fiber link. ;-) It's the same as buying, say, .nanog... >;-) -

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Ricky Beam
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:37:43 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: However, I figured I'd see if there was a better brand / specific model recommendations for quality or bang / buck? On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:02:27 -0400, Michael Loftis wrote: (knock on wood) nothing in the last 6-7 years has caused an

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Scott Weeks
joe...@bogus.com wrote: From: joel jaeggli > That's why I'm trying to follow up on the original question. Is > there something similar the global public can use to secure their > connections that is not government designed. This is even more > important on microwave

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Mark Keymer
I was wondering if anyone had experience with Geist's outlet monitoring product? I recently started using there basic PDU's and so far so good. But am wondering if anyone has feed back on Geist's outlet monitoring product. Mark Keymer

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 24/06/2013 19:29, Paul Rolland (???) a écrit : > Well, /25 are already in the routing table. I can even find a few > /26 !! So did I : http://lg.ring.nlnog.net/adv/lg02+lg01/ipv4?q=where%20net.len=26 But guess what ? They didn't stop there !

RE: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Jamie Bowden
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Weeks [mailto:sur...@mauigateway.com] > joe...@bogus.com wrote: > From: joel jaeggli > > > That's why I'm trying to follow up on the original question. Is > > there something similar the global public can use to secure their >

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Jamie Bowden wrote: > Actually, you CAN do that, but you have to apply for ITAR exceptions. EXIM > is complex and you really want a good legal team who are familiar with it > hand holding you through it (and on extended retainer going forward...). We used

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Mike A
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:14:19PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > Actually, you CAN do that, but you have to apply for ITAR exceptions. EXIM > > is complex and you really want a good legal team who are familiar with it > > hand ho

IANA Reference to hopopt as a protocol

2013-06-24 Thread David Edelman
Does anyone have an explanation for the IPv6 hopopt appearing as protocol value 0 in http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers? --Dave

Re: IANA Reference to hopopt as a protocol

2013-06-24 Thread Tore Anderson
* David Edelman > Does anyone have an explanation for the IPv6 hopopt appearing as protocol > value 0 in http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers? It's defined in RFC 2460, section 4.3. Which is linked to from the reference column of the page you linked to... Tore

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/24/13 1:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: joe...@bogus.com wrote: From: joel jaeggli That's why I'm trying to follow up on the original question. Is there something similar the global public can use to secure their connections that is not government designed. This is

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Michael McConnell
How do I convince my peers to accept /25's ?? :D -- Michael McConnell WINK Streaming; email: mich...@winkstreaming.com phone: +1 312 281-5433 x 7400 cell: +506 8706-2389 skype: wink-michael web: http://winkstreaming.com On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Jun 24, 2013,

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:25 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > Securing the link layer however is not a replacement for an end to end > solution so just because it's protecting the air interface(s) doesn't really > mean somebody not looking at the traffic elsewhere. it's fair to say, I think, that if yo

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread Philip Dorr
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > it's fair to say, I think, that if you want to say something on the > network it's best that you consider: > 1) is the communication something private between you and another party(s) > 2) is the communication going to be seen by ot