AfriNIC did not put them on the stage. AIS was not convened by AfriNIC. It is
very much like holding APNIC responsible for the content of other parts of an
APRICOT meeting. It just doesn't reflect the facts.
I agree that these TLD sellers are rather silly, but the organizers of the
conference c
On 2013-06-19 12:14, Owen DeLong wrote:
> You are, of course, free to criticize as you wish, but ideally, you
> should at least direct your criticism at those responsible.
Indeed, you should point out the simple fact that anybody with a budget
can simply buy their time to sound like they belong so
> How is AFRINIC responsible of that?
>> AfriNIC put these wonderful people on stage at the African Internet
>> Summit.
afrinic put them on the stage. it is said because you needed to fill
slots in the program, but i really do not know why or care.
randy
On 6/19/13, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I agree that these TLD sellers are rather silly, but the organizers of the
> conference chose to allow free speech.
I'm not sure it matters. Besides, you can always ignore their
presentation, abstain from the meeting, go home, or bitch on NANOG;
I'll agree TLD
On 06/18/2013 11:51 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Arista is rock solid they have both an IOS like cli and a standard
unix shell you can even run tcpdump on their switches.
Arista claim to fame came about 3-4 years back when they had at the
time one of the fastest non-blocking cut though 10Gbe switche
As stated, every vendor has its merits. If you really put some time into
developing a list of requirements and then structure a bakeoff that tests
those, you will learn a lot.
Some things to think about:
* don't let JUNOS or any other CLI deter you. You just need to factor in
training and hirin
Radio Free Asia, Washington DC.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=485799631503312&set=gm.536342003094118&type=1
Just remember, you're probably in better shape than them. If you look
carefully on the right side you can see where some cables were left
abandoned in place because they'd become u
*shrug*
Enh.. Looks pretty much like any colo site I've ever been in that's
been maintained by nothing but remote hands for the previous 4
years... (equinix, are you paying attention?)
-Wayne
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:04:17PM -0400, Tom Morris wrote:
> Radio Free Asia, Washington DC.
> https://
That's nothing.
I was in a business office colo facility in San Jose in the 2001 timeframe,
that had a (as I recall) 12-rack long patch panel setup for the 2 or 3
floors they occupied. All the phones and LANs used the same panels.
They'd used red cable for everything. There was no - zero - cabl
good article by Stacey Higginbotham
http://gigaom.com/2013/06/19/peering-pressure-the-secret-battle-to-control-the-future-of-the-internet/
Even better by Verizon -
http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/unbalanced-peering-and-the-real-story-behind-the-verizon-cogent-dispute
Some may recognize the name of the author for the WSJ article given
she attended NANOG in Orlando -
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424127887323836
> Even better by Verizon -
> http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/unbalanced-peering-and-the-real-story-behind-the-verizon-cogent-dispute
>
> Some may recognize the name of the author for the WSJ article given
> she attended NANOG in Orlando -
> http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424
Or alternately:
Verizon wishes money to accept data it requested from other vendors, film
at 11.
It's all in the application of the angular momentum...
-Blake
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> > Even better by Verizon -
> >
> http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/unba
On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> as someone who does not really buy the balanced traffic story, some are
> eyeballs and some are eye candy and that's just life, seems like a lot
> of words to justify various attempts at control, higgenbottom's point.
I agree with Randy, but will
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Blake Dunlap wrote:
> Verizon wishes money to accept data it requested from other vendors, film
> at 11.
The phrase you're looking for is, "double billing." Same byte, two payers.
-Bill
--
William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 06:39:48PM -0500, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> > as someone who does not really buy the balanced traffic story, some are
> > eyeballs and some are eye candy and that's just life, seems like a lot
> > of words to justify variou
On a recent IPv6 providers call, there was a desire for participants
to share information with each other on what works and what breaks in
an IPv6-only environment. I offered to set that up. It was further
suggested I should share this with more than just that small
community; to anyone who migh
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 07:44:15PM -0400, Dorian Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 06:39:48PM -0500, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> >
> > > as someone who does not really buy the balanced traffic story, some are
> > > eyeballs and some are eye can
Hi Wayne,
Another important point not to be missed is that these days, thanks to CDN
technology, a heavy inbound ratio does not necessarily indicate a high cost
burden like it did pre-CDN tech. Even more ironically, the unwillingness of a
peer to upgrade connections due to the ratio excuse re
On 2013-06-19 7:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
as someone who does not really buy the balanced traffic story, some
are eyeballs and some are eye candy and that's just life, seems like a
lot of words to justify various attempts at control, higgenbottom's
point. randy
What do you mean "not really bu
On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
> What do you mean "not really buy the balanced traffic story"? Ratio can
> matter when routing is asymmetric. (If costs can be approximated as distance
> x volume, forwarding hot-potato places a higher burden on the recipient...)
> And we
On 2013-06-19 8:46 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
That was a great argument in 1993, and was in fact largely true in system that
existed at that time. However today what you describe no longer really makes
any sense.
While it is technically true that the protocols favor asymmetric routing, your
t
Well, with net flow Analytics, it's not really the case that we don't have a
way of evaluating the relative burdens. Every major net flow Analytics vendor
is implementing some type of distance measurement capability so that each party
can calculate not only how much traffic they carry for each
Reaching out to DNS operators around the globe. Linkedin.com has had some
issues with DNS and would like DNS operators to flush their DNS. If you see
www.linkedin.com resolving NS to ns1617.ztomy.com or ns2617.ztomy.com then
please flush your DNS.
Any other info please reach out to me off-list.
Let's not kid ourselves, the transit providers are just as greedy. Even the
tier 2 ones (minus HE). My favorite is when they turn down your request
because you have an out of band circuit in a remote pop with them. As if
we're stuffing 800G of traffic down a 1G circuit that's never seen 100K of
tra
>Reaching out to DNS operators around the globe. Linkedin.com has had some
>issues with DNS
>and would like DNS operators to flush their DNS. If you see www.linkedin.com
>resolving NS to
>ns1617.ztomy.com or ns2617.ztomy.com then please flush your DNS.
>
>Any other info please reach out to me off
Yelp is evidently also affected
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:19 PM, John Levine wrote:
> >Reaching out to DNS operators around the globe. Linkedin.com has had some
> issues with DNS
> >and would like DNS operators to flush their DNS. If you see
> www.linkedin.com resolving NS to
> >ns1617.ztomy.co
On Jun 20, 2013, at 01:30 , Grant Ridder wrote:
> Yelp is evidently also affected
Not from here.
If the NS or www points to 204.11.56.0/24 for a production domain/hostname,
that's "bad". Yelp seems to be resolving normally for me.
--
TTFN,
patrick
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:19 PM, John L
Sure enough:
; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @localhost yelp.com A
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53267
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;yelp.com. IN A
;; ANS
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 01:30 , Grant Ridder wrote:
>
> > Yelp is evidently also affected
>
> Not from here.
>
Patrick:
$ dig NS yelp.com @8.8.8.8 +short
ns1620.ztomy.com.
ns2620.ztomy.com.
Some DNS servers have the bad records - TLD fo
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Tom Paseka wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
>> On Jun 20, 2013, at 01:30 , Grant Ridder wrote:
>>
>> > Yelp is evidently also affected
>>
>> Not from here.
>>
>
> Patrick:
>
> $ dig NS yelp.com @8.8.8.8 +short
> ns1620.ztomy
Anyone have news/explanation about what's happening/happened?
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> Sure enough:
>
>
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @localhost yelp.com A
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NO
The only apparent link is registration thru network solutions
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Alex Buie wrote:
> Anyone have news/explanation about what's happening/happened?
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Paul Ferguson >wrote:
>
> > Sure enough:
> >
> >
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>>
Hanlon's razor? Misconfiguration. Perhaps not done in malice, but I
have no idea where the poison leaked in, or why. :-)
- ferg
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Alex Buie wrote:
> Anyone have news/explanation about what's happening/happened?
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Paul Ferguso
On 6/20/13, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Tom Paseka wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore
I think "ztomy.com" smells really bad for some reason, looks like
100% advertising;
sure doesn't "appear" to be a DNS hosting provider, I sure can't
i
On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On 6/20/13, Paul Ferguson wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Tom Paseka wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore
> I think "ztomy.com" smells really bad for some reason, looks like
> 100% advertising;
IIRC, Conf
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