Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:05:45AM -1000, Paul wrote: > There are a fair number of reports of Apple's update servers being > down/intermittent. I imagine that's probably fairly inevitable on > launch day. If people haven't already updated and are thinking about > doing it, it's probably worth

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Jamie Bowden
You are correct. The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which then uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks. All of this was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears to have all started flowing again. Someday either Google or Apple will get off the

Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-13 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
He will be sadly missed. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Fred Heutte wrote: > > The UNIX Time-Sharing System > http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol57-1978/articles/bstj57-6-1905.pdf > > UNIX Time-Sharing System: A Retrospective > http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol57-1978/articles/bstj57-6-

Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-13 Thread Andrew Gallo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/12/2011 5:41 PM, Chad Burnham wrote: > HI, > > Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic > jumped significantly today. The theory (no data) is the Apple updates > released today. > > Chad Burnham > University o

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Matthew Huff
It's called Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync :) It works with Android, Apple and Microsoft devices. I believe both Lotus and Groupwise have licensed and support it as well. We have a few (but now, very few) blackberry users remaining. They won't let it go until we rip it out of their hands. >

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Erik Soosalu
Any idea of when Apple's ActiveSync Implementation will close the gap with what BES does? Like maybe having Important message notifications? Categories? Filters? I use an iPhone, but mail handling on it is lacking. -Original Message- From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com] Sent: Thurs

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
Agreed. Had a customer during the timeframe of this week ditch 90 blackberries for iPhone/android devices. He actually sent me a video after BES finished uninstalling and he shut the server down "so help me I'm never getting another one of these damn coasters." One user said when they got the

Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Thomas
> I started with UNIX back when it arrived at school, on reel to reel > tapes, and it was loaded on to the PDP 11/45. I learned to write C from > the original K&R (which I still have, of course). Same here! > Dennis was one of the good ones. A kind and generous person, who changed > all our worl

Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-13 Thread Matt Taylor
Would love to see some bandwidth graphs. :) Matt. On 13/10/2011 11:42 PM, Andrew Gallo wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/12/2011 5:41 PM, Chad Burnham wrote: HI, Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic jumped significantly today.

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Pierce Lynch
Like Blake mentioned, I for one will also be ditching Blackberry devices due to the poor, irregular service which Blackberry users continue to be subject to due to RIM's inability to provide a stable and reliable service. To add further insult to injury, it just simply is unacceptable to be subj

Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-13 Thread Adam Rothschild
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > Isn't it just more of the same, or am I brainnumb today? What's changed is the introduction of "bit miles" as a means of calculating equality, where traffic ratios might previously have been used. Explained further, as pointed out on-list ear

Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Fred Heutte" > The UNIX Time-Sharing System > http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol57-1978/articles/bstj57-6-1905.pdf > > UNIX Time-Sharing System: A Retrospective > http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol57-1978/articles/bstj57-6-1947.pdf > > UNIX Time-Sha

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jamie Bowden" > Someday either Google or Apple will get > off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that > plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all > gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bi

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Jamie Bowden" > >> Someday either Google or Apple will get >> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that >> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can a

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > It's possible that the 'encryption' comment from Jamie is really about > encrypting the actual device... which I believe Android[0] will do, I > don't know if idevices do though. I think the big problem is that rev1 of iDevice did not inc

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Jamie Bowden
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:36 AM > To: Jay Ashworth > Cc: NANOG > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
Pierce, Actually with Windows Mobile and Exchange Enterprise, you can force handheld encryption :) -Original Message- From: Pierce Lynch [mailto:p.ly...@netappliant.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:35 AM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry se

Re: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Andrea Gozzi
Can't but agree with Jamie. The ability to centralize management for all Blackberry users and _force_ them to comply with company policy (it's an investment bank) saved us lot of hassle when, and it happens regularly, people lose their handsets. Otherwise, it would be all unencrypted, unmonitored a

Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Weeks
--- a...@latency.net wrote: From: Adam Rothschild On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > Isn't it just more of the same, or am I brainnumb today? What's changed is the introduction of "bit miles" as a means of calculating equality, where traffic ratios might previously have been

Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-13 Thread Tom Vest
Note the distinction in the new peering relationship requirement -- only direct adjacencies with other transit-providing ASes count. ...or did that change happen some time ago and I'm just noticing it now (?) TV On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > --- a...@latency.net wrote: > F

Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Tom Vest wrote: > Note the distinction in the new peering relationship requirement -- only > direct adjacencies with other transit-providing ASes count. > > ...or did that change happen some time ago and I'm just noticing it now (?) It is new. I'm unclear how that

OT: ISPs in Brazil and Chile

2011-10-13 Thread Jeff Cartier
Hi Group, A little off topic, but I was looking for a recommendation on an ISP in both Brazil and Chile. Thanks!! __ DISCLAIMER: This e-mail contains proprietary information some or all of which may be legally privileged. It is f

NANOG Website and ARO Maintenance

2011-10-13 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello All: There will be maintenance performed to the NANOG Website and ARO system on Saturday, October 22, 2011, starting at 4 PM Pacific (2300 GMT) and lasting approximately 4 hours. During the window there will be brief periods where the website and ARO system are unavailable. Please note

Re: OT: ISPs in Brazil and Chile

2011-10-13 Thread Luis Palma
I work in Claro. Claro has ISP in both countries. If you need more information contact me off list. Regards 2011/10/13, Jeff Cartier : > Hi Group, > > A little off topic, but I was looking for a recommendation on an ISP in both > Brazil and Chile. > > Thanks!! > >

Re: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread McCall, Gabriel
ActiveSync on Android allows corporate to force compliance with security policy and allow remote wipe. User cannot complete the exchange account setup without permitting the controls. If the user doesn't agree their sync isn't enabled. Moreover, if corporate requirements change sync is disabled

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:21 PM, McCall, Gabriel wrote: > ActiveSync on Android allows corporate to force compliance with security > policy and allow remote wipe. User cannot complete the exchange account setup > without permitting the controls. If the user doesn't agree their sync isn't > enabled.

Re: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Howard
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:21 PM, McCall, Gabriel < gabriel.mcc...@thyssenkrupp.com> wrote: > ActiveSync on Android allows corporate to force compliance with security > policy and allow remote wipe. User cannot complete the exchange account > setup without permitting the controls. If the user does

RE: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Vinny_Abello
Exchange administration is not my primary job, but in my past experience on Exchange and the iPhone, if I enforced a security policy that the phone could not meet then the user would not be able to sync with the server and setup their account. I remember having to tone back the security policy t

[OT] Overture's Ethernet over bonded Copper products

2011-10-13 Thread Graham Wooden
HI operators, Been looking at Overture¹s ŒEthernet over Copper¹ product line; any you folks have any real world experience with them? Would love to hear off-line the good, bad, ugly stories ­ if you are willing to share. Much appreciated. -graham

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread TR Shaw
I have been following this thread for a while and I will have to say I am a tad confused. Remote wipe has been in the iPhone since iOS3.1.3 And if your phone is locked it will wipe after 10 (if I remember correctly) failed unlock attempts. My iPhone communicates completely encrypted. It is set

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-13 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 10/13/11 3:30 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: In fact, Skype, just as a for instance, is worse on hotel wifi as launching the app on a laptop makes you a middle node for some conversations. Per the Skype IT administrator guide, a Skype node will not become a supernode unless it has a public

Re: [OT] Overture's Ethernet over bonded Copper products

2011-10-13 Thread Raul Rodriguez
Can't speak to Overture, but at my last gig, Aktino/Positron gear worked well for us. -RR On 10/13/11, Graham Wooden wrote: > HI operators, > > Been looking at Overture¹s ŒEthernet over Copper¹ product line; any you > folks have any real world experience with them? > Would love to hear off-line