I have been following this thread for a while and I will have to say I am a tad 
confused.

Remote wipe has been in the iPhone since iOS3.1.3 And if your phone is locked 
it will wipe after 10 (if I remember correctly) failed unlock attempts.

My iPhone communicates completely encrypted. It is set to VPN back to our 
office.   And if we didn't wan't to do that we could could use TLS on our mail 
to keep that traffic encrypted. But encrypt all is the best approach for us.

Personally, I hate mail push. I watch folks in meetings constantly looking down 
or typing some response and never fully listening to the speakers and not fully 
engaged in the meeting. Additionally, mail push is indiscriminate and just 
interrupts my train of thought when I am working. If a communique is truly 
important whomever can iMessage,SMS,jabber/POTS me; otherwise the mail can just 
wait till I check my inbox. I understand others feel differently.  

On an iPhone today you can get push from exchange, iCloud/iMap, Gmail/GCloud, 
Yahoo, OSX Server (I believe) or set your phone the check every x minutes 
(after all what could be so important that 15 latency minutes would cause a 
catastrophe? (During many catastrophe situations sms could take hours or the 
voice cell network could be tied up and are you that close to whatever to be 
able to react). If you need instant response... script it.

As for filtering, its one of my issues about my iPhone.  However, iOS5 supports 
message flagging and a filter script back on your desktop (where Mail does 
accept/process message push via IDLE) can flag a message which will sync to 
your iPhone.

Lastly I have never liked RIM's model. It basically inculcates the idea that 
"man in the middle" is a good thing which it is not.

Just my 2ยข

Tom


On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Erik Soosalu wrote:

> Any idea of when Apple's ActiveSync Implementation will close the gap
> with what BES does?
> 
> Like maybe having Important message notifications? Categories? Filters?
> 
> I use an iPhone, but mail handling on it is lacking.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:44 AM
> To: 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
> Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> 
> It's called Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync :) 
> 
> It works with Android, Apple and Microsoft devices. I believe both Lotus
> and Groupwise have licensed and support it as well. We have a few (but
> now, very few) blackberry users remaining. They won't let it go until we
> rip it out of their hands.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:ja...@photon.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:36 AM
>> To: Joe Abley
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>> 
>> You are correct.  The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which
> then
>> uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks.  All of
> this
>> was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears
> to
>> have all started flowing again.  Someday either Google or Apple will
> get
>> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
>> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
>> gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins where they
>> belong.
>> 
>> Jamie
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe Abley [mailto:jab...@hopcount.ca]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
>>> To: Phil Regnauld
>>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of
>>> processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the
>>> core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to
>> the
>>> edge have different, less-dramatic failure modes.
>>>> 
>>>>    This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated
>>> servers,
>>>>    AFAIU.
>>> 
>>> I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic
>>> between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device
> through
>> a
>>> cellular network, still flows through RIM.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 


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