I wonder if there's a filter for top-postings in list that have a
bottom-posting rule?
This thread is very operationally interesting to me but I've lost the
plot :(
http://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/listfaqs/generalfaq.php?qt=convent
refers.
PS: I know that some devices actually prevent bottom-po
gord wrote:
I wonder if there's a filter for top-postings in list that have a
bottom-posting rule?
This thread is very operationally interesting to me but I've lost the
plot :(
http://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/listfaqs/generalfaq.php?qt=convent
refers.
PS: I know that some devices actually prev
On 2011/04/09 11:38 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote:
Tim Chown (tjc) writes:
I don't know quite how high a performance you need. If it's just email
spam/viruses you are concerned with, you can run MailScanner for free,
see http://www.mailscanner.info. It's been around for 10 years now and
used by a lot
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Ray Corbin wrote:
I had experience with Barracuda as outbound anti-spam filters for
a very large hosting provider and I won't use Barracuda again. Some of
their methods for blocking spam are a tad extreme. At one point they
decided to block both yahoo.com and google.com in
I don't think they had blocked mail coming/going from yahoo.com/google.com
which would have been more careless to their subscribers (especially when our
outbound units were processing a few million emails a day from our customers).
They blocked the domains so you couldn't have a link to google/y
On 9, Apr, 2011, at 16:00 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 9, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Job Snijders wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:34, Lori Jakab wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/08/2011 06:39 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>
LISP can also be a good option. Comes with s
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 12:10 +0200, Gabriel Marais wrote:
> I have 6 MailScanner servers in production running with Postfix, not
> had any 'real' issues in the last few years.
We have just as many -- and yes, it's great.
The only thing I'd prefer would be Exim over Postfix, but Mailscanner
does ma
> We have just as many -- and yes, it's great.
>
> The only thing I'd prefer would be Exim over Postfix, but Mailscanner
> does make things very pleasant to use.
+1 for Exim, although development stalled for a while when Philip Hazel
retired its now back on track.
Also not happy with Barracud
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>
> On 9, Apr, 2011, at 16:00 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 9, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Job Snijders wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:34, Lori Jakab wrote:
>>>
On 04/08/2011 06:39 PM, Owe
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>>> Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional
>>> prefixes which at this time doesn't seem so practical to me.
>>
>> This is not accurate IMO. To inject prefixes in the BGP is needed only to
>> make non-LISP
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tom Hill wrote:
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 12:10 +0200, Gabriel Marais wrote:
I have 6 MailScanner servers in production running with Postfix, not
had any 'real' issues in the last few years.
We have just as many -- and yes, it's great.
The only thing I'd prefer would be Exim
On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>
> On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> [snip]
Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional
prefixes which at this time doesn't seem so practical to me.
>>>
>>> This is not accurate IMO.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
The deal will combine two unprofitable companies with total revenue of
$6.26 billion as of last year, and cut annualized capital spending by
about $40 million, according to
- Original Message -
> From: "William Allen Simpson"
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
>
> The deal will combine two unprofitable companies with total revenue of
> $6.26 billion as of last year, a
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "William Allen Simpson"
>
> >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
> >
> > The deal will combine two unprofitabl
- Original Message -
> From: "Dorn Hetzel"
> Well, maybe they're just admitting it will slow the rate at which
> prices go down :)
Cause L3 and GBLX are Too Big To Fail, right?
Furrfu.
Cheers,
-- jra
Not an appliance but a really amazing job at stopping spam, www.messagelabs.com
(purchased by Symantec). We went from messagelabs service to barracuda
appliance and the difference is astronomical, whereas before i might get one or
two spams a day using MessageLabs now with the barracuda I get an
I find it amusing that the article says - "The deal will combine two
unprofitable companies...".
So I guess the thinking is that two negatives make a positive?
-Mike
-Original Message-
From: Dorn Hetzel [mailto:d...@hetzel.org]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 AM
To: Jay Ashworth
On 4/11/11 10:41 AM, Mike Walter wrote:
I find it amusing that the article says - "The deal will combine two unprofitable
companies...".
So I guess the thinking is that two negatives make a positive?
-Mike
Since they will be saving a whole $40mm annually, profitability is
pretty much guarante
combining the companies will allow them to maximize efficeinecies by the
elimination
of overlapping functions, hopefully paving the way to profitability.
Job cuts here we come
Mike
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mike Walter wrote:
> I find it amusing that the article says - "The d
All,
One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone know if
Sprint uses LISP? (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation of LISP?
Thank you,
Christina Klam
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 02:41:18PM +, Mike Walter wrote:
> I find it amusing that the article says - "The deal will combine two
> unprofitable companies...".
>
> So I guess the thinking is that two negatives make a positive?
They may lose on every subscriber, but now they'll make it up i
http://www.lisp4.net/
Mike
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Christina Klam wrote:
> All,
>
> One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone know
> if Sprint uses LISP? (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation
> of LISP?
>
> Thank you,
> Christina Klam
>
>
>
>
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49:25AM -0400,
Christina Klam wrote
a message of 12 lines which said:
> (1) Does anyone know if Sprint uses LISP?
It is too early, IMHO, to have production deployments of LISP (testing
is OK).
> (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation of LISP?
For Ci
On 04/11/2011 05:02 PM, harbor235 wrote:
> http://www.lisp4.net/
Agreed, this is the best starting point.
I'm working on a draft about LISP deployment, feedback is always welcome:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jakab-lisp-deployment
-Lori
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Christina
Hi,
I think that the best repository of documentation is lisp4.net.
I would also have a look to
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jakab-lisp-deployment/
Luigi
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 16:49 , Christina Klam wrote:
> All,
>
> One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyo
Thank you all.
On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think that the best repository of documentation is lisp4.net.
>
> I would also have a look to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jakab-lisp-deployment/
>
> Luigi
>
> On 11, Apr, 2011, at 16:49 , Christina Klam
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:37 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>
>>
>> On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>
> Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional
> prefixes which at this time doesn
> From: "Michael Painter"
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:11:44 -1000
>
> gord wrote:
> > I wonder if there's a filter for top-postings in list that have a
> > bottom-posting rule?
> > This thread is very operationally interesting to me but I've lost the
> > plot :(
> >
> > http://www.nanog.org/maili
On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>
> On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:37 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>
>> Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requi
Dear Christina,
On 11 Apr 2011, at 16:49, Christina Klam wrote:
> One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone know if
> Sprint uses LISP? (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation of
> LISP?
I cannot answer question 1.
But I do work for an ISP that's roll
Well, this will be the third time that Level3 has purchased my primary
upstream provider. Maybe this will be different than with Genuity and
Wiltel, but Level3 needs to either stop using the word "legacy" or
educate their employees so they know that "legacy" is good and not bad.
-mark
> Let me see if I have that straight.
>
> We're *admitting* in public that the result will be to make prices go
> up for
> customers? Wow... Justice is going to have a field day with that.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
I don't think it means so much that prices will go up, just that it will slow
the de
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact I keep thinking I just about
> understand LISP and then get told
> that my understanding is incorrect (repeatedly).
I agree it is not simple.
At a conceptual level, we can think of existing mult
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, David Coulson wrote:
Wasn't there a telco CEO who would blow that much in strip clubs? Savvis
springs to mind, but I don't remember.
I seem to recall several dot-com-era CxOs spending very lavishly on
themselves, or getting their employers to give them large 'loans' that
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:55:05AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> > Let me see if I have that straight.
> >
> > We're *admitting* in public that the result will be to make prices go
> > up for
> > customers? Wow... Justice is going to have a field day with that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
>
> I
On 4/11/11 12:24 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
I seem to recall several dot-com-era CxOs spending very lavishly on
themselves, or getting their employers to give them large 'loans' that
were never paid back. Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, Bernie Ebbers, Gary
Winnick, Joe Nacchio, etc...
This is wh
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact I keep thinking I just about
>> understand LISP and then get told
>> that my understanding is incorrect (repeatedly).
>
> I agree it is not
On Apr 11, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact I keep thinking I just about
>> understand LISP and then get told
>> that my understanding is incorrect (repeatedly).
>
> I agree it is not s
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the person
> who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would post
> however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
My wife complained once that my respo
It's really impressive how insular a bunch of old timers can be.
Coming up next: rants about HTML mail!
R's,
John
In article you write:
>On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>> Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the person
>> who top-posted) saying t
pd-to: rout...@getjive.com
mnt-nfy:rout...@getjive.com
auth: MD5-PW 2a930d2ac634aa45e4224e575d2a1bdb
mnt-by: MAINT-JIVE
changed:rout...@getjive.com 20110411
source: ALTDB
Thanks,
Bret
- Original Message -
> From: "harbor235"
> http://www.lisp4.net/
So, for The Rest Of Us, LISP is an attempt to reduce the impact of PI
space on router tables in the DFZ?
WADR, to hell with them; they have a *lot* more money than I do. :-)
Cheers,
-- jra
- Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Oberman"
> Subject: Re: Top-posting
> Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the person
> who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would post
> however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
>
> I ev
- Original Message -
> From: "John Levine"
> It's really impressive how insular a bunch of old timers can be.
>
> Coming up next: rants about HTML mail!
I never thought I'd say this about John, but PDFTT, folks. :-)
Cheers,
-- jra
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20336-internet-probe-can-track-you-down-to-within-690-metres.html
"The new method zooms in through three stages to locate a target
computer. The first stage measures the time it takes to send a data
packet to the target and converts it into a distance – a co
Aren't they already confused enough when any time I use my EVDO or 3G
Tether that someone believes I've been magically transported to New
Jersey or wherever the handoff is? ;)
Understand the logic behind it, but you probably statistically have
just as much chance of being correct a
Anyone with a Technical Contact for Bharti Airtel kindly contact me off list.
I have been having BGP flaps for much of the day on a link to London.
Regards,
Jacob
On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Scott Morris wrote:
> Aren't they already confused enough when any time I use my EVDO or 3G
> Tether that someone believes I've been magically transported to New
> Jersey or wherever the handoff is? ;)
> Understand the logic behind it, but you probably statis
On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20336-internet-probe-can-track-you-down-to-within-690-metres.html
> "The new method zooms in through three stages to locate a target computer.
> The first stage measures the time it takes to send a data p
Don't forget the use for 911 type services.
On 4/12/11 8:10 , "Jeroen van Aart" wrote:
>http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20336-internet-probe-can-track-you-d
>own-to-within-690-metres.html
>"The new method zooms in through three stages to locate a target
>computer. The first stage measures
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I do tend to think that any technology sufficiently confusing that I cannot
> understand it well after reasonable effort is of questionable value
> for wide deployment.
The secret is to ignore all the crazy acronyms and boil it down to
this --
Is there a limit of 8 characters for the CRYPT-PW?
-Bret
TR Shaw wrote:
Get a linux box or whatever and roll your own. ASSP, DSPAM, Spamassin, or other
open source
ASSP + exim, on Debian, for sure.
BUT, ASSP as of now does not support IPv6 so I am not able to hang my
spamfilter on an IPv6 address. :-( Contacting the maintainers is met
with utter
"Way too many players ..." means that the telecom marketplace is good for the
consumer, with competition keeping prices low. Many network users feel that
prices are still way too high, particularly for high speed circuits and dark
fiber, areas in which Level 3 and Global Crossing have specialize
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
...
> It would also be easy to institute something like the old GPS selective
> availability, with a software tunnel randomly adding a variable
> delay (say, varying by up to 50 msec every 100 seconds).
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
Heck...wi
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 03:49:43PM -0700, Holmes,David A wrote:
> "Way too many players ..." means that the telecom marketplace is good
> for the consumer, with competition keeping prices low. Many network
> users feel that prices are still way too high, particularly for high
> speed circuits an
Just wanted to thank everyone who replied to my question on the list and
off-list.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Paul W. Roach III wrote:
> The downside of anycast for TCP services require state to be replicated in
> realtime across all app servers to prevent crappy user experien
--As of April 11, 2011 3:11:15 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to have
said:
Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the person
who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would post
however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
I even manage t
If I were a large tier-2 with SFI to one, but not both, of Level3 and
GBLX, I would see this acquisition as an opportunity to squeeze
peering out of the other network, or eventual combination of both, in
trade for not stirring the pot with regulators. Perhaps AS3356 will
carry AS6939 IPv6 routes s
FYI
Just weeks before switching on a massive, super-efficient data center in
rural Oregon, Facebook is giving away the designs and specifications to the
whole thing online. In doing so, the company is breaking a long-established
unwritten rule for Web companies: don't share the secrets of your
ser
- Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Staal"
> --As of April 11, 2011 3:11:15 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to
> have said:
Nope; I really said it. :-)
> > Standard threaded (IE: not top-posted) replies have been the standard for
> > technical mailing lists on the net since I first
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On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:02 AM, harbor235 wrote:
> http://www.lisp4.net/
This sounds a lot like LNP in the telco world. Is the goal here to make IP's
"portable" ? Or is this a viable way to access IPv6
interleaved posting is considered harmful.
/bill
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:05:51PM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Daniel Staal"
>
> > --As of April 11, 2011 3:11:15 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to
> > have said:
>
> Nope; I really said it. :-)
>
Yep! It sure did. Phew I don't need to re-submit.
Thanks guys! I received many responses.
-Bret
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Andrew Jones wrote:
> My understanding is that the implementation of the DES algorithm used
> ignores any characters after the first 8, so basically yes.
> -Jonesy
>
>
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:27:44 EDT, Jay Ashworth said:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Dorn Hetzel"
>
> > Well, maybe they're just admitting it will slow the rate at which
> > prices go down :)
>
> Cause L3 and GBLX are Too Big To Fail, right?
Yes, but the *real* question is - will they
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 19:39 -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
> Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the
> person
> >> who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would
> post
> >> however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
Too many Outlook use
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:15:33 -, John Levine said:
> It's really impressive how insular a bunch of old timers can be.
>
> Coming up next: rants about HTML mail!
Vern Schryver once pointed out that a multipart/alternative with a
text/plain and text/html was *always* incorrect - if the semantic
Hi All,
Is there by any chance a Yahoo! Mail Technical Contact is subscribed in
this mailing list? Please reply directly to my email.
Thank you very much.
-nathan
On 4/11/2011 21:22, Richard Golodner wrote:
> Too many Outlook users. With just about any other email client it is
> very easy to bottom post.
> To those who wish to post as they want demonstrates a certain something
> about being a professional and an additional personality component
On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
> On 4/11/2011 21:22, Richard Golodner wrote:
>>Too many Outlook users. With just about any other email client it is
>> very easy to bottom post.
>>To those who wish to post as they want demonstrates a certain something
>> about being a pro
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:58:11 EDT, Bryan Fields said:
> The issue with outlook/exchange is there is no way to use another client with
> it. I cannot even force plain text to the internet, the server send it as
> quoted printable even if I strip all formatting.
If the entire body part is expressible
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is there by any chance a Yahoo! Mail Technical Contact is subscribed in this
> mailing list? Please reply directly to my email.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> -nathan
Aww...now see, this is the North American *NETWORK* ope
Hi All,
It seems that we're having some problems receiving emails from selected
Yahoo! Mail Accounts. I noticed that there is a commonality between the
accounts that fails when sending an email to our domain (see email
header below)
From: "mailer-dae...@nm1.bullet.mail.sg1.yahoo.com"
To:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It seems that we're having some problems receiving emails from selected
> Yahoo! Mail Accounts. I noticed that there is a commonality between the
> accounts that fails when sending an email to our domain (see email header
On 4/11/11 10:47 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
mpetach@opstools1:~> telnet 219.90.94.56 25
Trying 219.90.94.56...
Connected to static-host-219-90-94-56.tri.ph.
Escape character is '^]'.
ehlo yahoo.com
554 SMTP synchronization error
Connection closed by foreign host.
mpetach@opstools1:~>
I imagin
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
> On 4/11/11 10:47 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
>> mpetach@opstools1:~> telnet 219.90.94.56 25
>> Trying 219.90.94.56...
>> Connected to static-host-219-90-94-56.tri.ph.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> ehlo yahoo.com
>> 554 SMTP synchronization e
Thanks anyway. I just find this issue intriguing since not all Yahoo
mail accounts are affected. In addition, incoming mails from other
domain doesn't seem to be affected. That is why I want to check if it
is a network issue :)
-nathan
On 4/12/2011 1:17 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
On Mon, A
I sincerely
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:12 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> interleaved posting is considered harmful.
>
Disagree.
Owen
> /bill
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:05:51PM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Daniel Staal"
>>
>>> --As of A
On Apr 11, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
> On 4/11/2011 21:22, Richard Golodner wrote:
>> Too many Outlook users. With just about any other email client it is
>> very easy to bottom post.
>> To those who wish to post as they want demonstrates a certain something
>> about being
On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I have used Evolution and IMAP with exchange servers in the past, so, I'm not
> convinced this is an entirely accurate statement.
And in fact, I'm posting this message in plain-text via the OSX Mail.app
connected via native Exchange protocols
I am top-posting to show that this entire thread is retarded.
I certainly could have bottom-posted, because I don't use Outlook for
this list, but the point here is -- is this what the NANOG list has
really become? Really?
So sad.
- ferg
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote
Call me and old 'hard case' - but I prefer that when I get information via
email, that if possible, the relevant information show up immediately.
Call me lazy I guess - but I would expect that most folks on this list have
also understood good user interface design, and that the least amount of w
Well yahoo's mx tend to do that a lot. i used to have a lot of bounced
emails to yahoo until i implemented dkim, domainkeys and spf then all my
yahoo problems disappeared ,
I just want to know if you have implemented any of
these technologies dkim,domainkeys and spf, other wise you would have all
Hi Paul,
Your point is taken - but actually this is a bit of a conundrum, at least for
me.
Generally what I see is that younger people who grew up using email when they
were children desire to bottom post or post inline whereas folks that
originally utilized email primarily to communicate tech
On 12 Apr 2011, at 07:33, Michael DeMan wrote:
> Call me and old 'hard case' - but I prefer that when I get information via
> email, that if possible, the relevant information show up immediately.
>
> Call me lazy I guess - but I would expect that most folks on this list have
> also understood
Just to clarify, the problem we are encountering is that emails sent
from yahoo does not seem to reach our mail server (even any of our MX
records / anti-spam servers).
We have neither implemented any of the items you have said (still in the
process of doing so). I tried to interview our emai
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