RE: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1. Even if only 1% of us > were > to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1! We > *CAN* win -- wake up, people! Dude. As someone who was personally connected to this (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78088192.html), and this

list archive

2010-12-05 Thread Randy Bush
how do i find archives of this list from the '90s and early '00s? randy

Re: list archive

2010-12-05 Thread Michael Painter
Randy Bush wrote: how do i find archives of this list from the '90s and early '00s? randy Partial list here: http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/historical.html

Warrant Canaries

2010-12-05 Thread Michael DeMan
On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Original Message - >> From: "Adrian Chadd" >> >> On Sat, Dec 04, 2010, Ken Chase wrote: >>> And if they come and ask the same but without a court order is a bit >>> trickier and more confusing, and this list is a good place to track the

(wikileaks) Fwd: [funsec] And Google becomes a DNS..

2010-12-05 Thread Gadi Evron
I withhold comment... "discuss amongst yourselves". Best, Gadi. Original Message Subject:[funsec] And Google becomes a DNS.. Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:34:50 +0200 From: Imri Goldberg To: funsec Found on reddit: http://i.imgur.com/Q5SVu.png -- Imri

Re: (wikileaks) Fwd: [funsec] And Google becomes a DNS..

2010-12-05 Thread Gadi Evron
On 12/5/10 5:50 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: I withhold comment... "discuss amongst yourselves". Found on reddit: http:/ Not sure why the URL didn't go through... http://i.imgur.com/Q5SVu.png Enjoy. Gadi.

RE: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Michael Sokolov
Nathan Eisenberg wrote: > As someone who was personally connected to this (http://www.komonews.com/ne= > ws/local/78088192.html), and this, http://www.komonews.com/news/local/68320= > 537.html I feel pretty justified in telling you to keep this 'shoot a pig' = > crap off the list. To all uniform

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Lynda
On 12/5/2010 11:32 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: Pretty much, I no longer care what you wrote. Go away. Seriously. Just GO AWAY. Alt.politics is -->> thataway. *plonk* -- Die gedanken sind frei.

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread James Hess
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:53:22 GMT, Michael Sokolov said: >> Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1.  Even if only 1% of us were >> to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1!  We >> *CAN* win -- wake up, people! > Yes, but shooting down an RFC1925-compliant porker may r

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread Bill Fehring
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 19:52, Ben Jencks wrote: > DHCPv6-PD (prefix delegation) with the relay installing static routes > is probably the most straightforward way. Apparently that has it's own problems right now actually: http://blog.ioshints.info/2010/10/dhcpv6-relaying-another-trouble-spot.html

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article you write: >On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 19:52, Ben Jencks wrote: >> DHCPv6-PD (prefix delegation) with the relay installing static routes >> is probably the most straightforward way. > >Apparently that has it's own problems right now actually: >http://blog.ioshints.info/2010/10/dhcpv6-rela

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread James Hess
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > of running RIPng.  The thought of letting Belkin routers (if you can call > them that) into the routing table scares me no end. I think that indeed looks scary. I wouldn't be too concerned about the Belkin routers. How many SP routers are re

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-12-05 Thread Vasile Borcan
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote: > Does any one know the NMS (network management software) which can do the > fallowing: > > 1. Monitor on Cisco Routers/Switches interface utilization every 5-10 > seconds and send e-mail alarm when utilization low or high of predefined > th

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread Mark Newton
On 06/12/2010, at 6:54 AM, Bill Fehring wrote: > Apparently that has it's own problems right now actually: > http://blog.ioshints.info/2010/10/dhcpv6-relaying-another-trouble-spot.html In our deployment mode, the CEs are running PPP sessions to the BRAS, so they know when it reboots and can resp

How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ?

2010-12-05 Thread John Levine
I've been pondering IPv6 setups, and I don't understand how IPv6 rDNS is supposed to work. It's clear enough how you look up any particular address, but it's not at all clear to me what you put into an rDNS zone and how you put it there. In IPv4 land, it is standard to assign matching forward and

Ratios & peering [was: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.]

2010-12-05 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Dec 4, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: >> - Ratio needs to be dropped from all peering policies. It made sense >> back when the traffic was two people e-mailing each other. It was >> a measure of "equal value". However the net ha

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article you write: >If there is an inexpensive CPE with an implementation of DHCPv6 PD >that works without issues, >I would love to hear about who makes it, and what the device is... AVM Fritzbox 7270/7340/7390 Draytek Vigor 2130/2750 Those are the ones I tested, there are lots more, but ac

Re: How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ?

2010-12-05 Thread Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
Hi John, On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:13 PM, John Levine wrote: > I've been pondering IPv6 setups, and I don't understand how IPv6 rDNS > is supposed to work. It's clear enough how you look up any particular > address, but it's not at all clear to me what you put into an rDNS > zone and how you put

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:32 PM, James Hess wrote: > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >> of running RIPng. The thought of letting Belkin routers (if you can call >> them that) into the routing table scares me no end. > > I think that indeed looks scary. I wouldn't be too concer

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-12-05 Thread James Hess
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Brandon Ross wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Nick Hilliard wrote: > least once a second.  Perhaps you are thinking about the rate counters that > are often _configured_ to use the last 30 seconds of data to compute the > average but also update much more often than e

Re: How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ?

2010-12-05 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, John Levine wrote: > I've been pondering IPv6 setups, and I don't understand how IPv6 rDNS > is supposed to work. It's clear enough how you look up any particular > address, but it's not at all clear to me what you put into an rDNS > zone and how you put it there. >

Re: How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ?

2010-12-05 Thread George Michaelson
On 06/12/2010, at 8:25 AM, Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin wrote: > Hi John, > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:13 PM, John Levine wrote: > >> I've been pondering IPv6 setups, and I don't understand how IPv6 rDNS >> is supposed to work. It's clear enough how you look up any particular >> address, but it'

Re: list archive

2010-12-05 Thread Randy Bush
>> how do i find archives of this list from the '90s and early '00s? > http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/historical.html how did you find that? the link labeled "Historical NANOG List Archive" on the page http://nanog.org/mailinglist/mailarchives/ got me to this month's archive. randy

Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

2010-12-05 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> Just how much free time do you have? :) 1 minute to google the capacity of a 747-400F. 1 minute to google the dimensions and weight of an lto-4 cartridge. 1 minute to punch the numbers into bc(1). --lyndon

Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6

2010-12-05 Thread MarcoH - lists
On 5 dec 2010, at 23:19, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article > you > write: >> If there is an inexpensive CPE with an implementation of DHCPv6 PD >> that works without issues, >> I would love to hear about who makes it, and what the device is... > > AVM Fritzbox 7270/7340/7390 > Drayt

RE: list archive

2010-12-05 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:57 PM > To: Michael Painter > Cc: North American Network Operators Group > Subject: Re: list archive > > >> how do i find archives of this list from the '90s and early '00s? > > http://www.me

Re: list archive

2010-12-05 Thread Michael Costello
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:56:30 +0900 Randy Bush wrote: > >> how do i find archives of this list from the '90s and early '00s? > > http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/historical.html > > how did you find that? the link labeled "Historical NANOG List > Archive" on the page http://nanog.org/mai

Impact of Attacks and Outages

2010-12-05 Thread Glen Kent
Hi, Is there any paper/link that discusses the financial repercussions when an ISP's network goes down because of an attack/outage? What i am looking at is something that i can explain to a lay person, about why the networks need to remain secure so that they cant be hacked into, as once it comes

Re: list archive

2010-12-05 Thread Randy Bush
>>> http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/historical.html >> how did you find that? the link labeled "Historical NANOG List >> Archive" on the page http://nanog.org/mailinglist/mailarchives/ got >> me to this month's archive. > After following the the "Historical NANOG List Archive" link, there

Re: How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ?

2010-12-05 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - > From: "Owen DeLong" > To: "John Levine" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Sunday, 5 December, 2010 2:54:43 PM > Subject: Re: How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ? > On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, John Levine wrote: > > > When hosts self-configure their low 64 bits, do you inst

Re: Impact of Attacks and Outages

2010-12-05 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Dec 6, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Glen Kent wrote: > Any help in this regard would be really appreciated. This 2009 report (and reports from previous years) may be of interest: The 2010 report is in process right now, FYI. Here're some additional presentations

Re: How do you do rDNS for IPv6 ?

2010-12-05 Thread Jima
On 12/5/2010 4:13 PM, John Levine wrote: In IPv4 land, it is standard to assign matching forward and reverse DNS for every live IP, and a fair number of services treat requests from hosts without rDNS with added scepticism. For consumer networks, it's often something like 12-34-56-78.adsl.incompe

Re: list archive

2010-12-05 Thread Randy Bush
> This one goes back to April 1994: before then, the opsish list was com-priv randy

Over a decade of DDOS--any progress yet?

2010-12-05 Thread Sean Donelan
February 2000 weren't the first DDOS attacks, but the attacks on multiple well-known sites did raise DDOS' visibility. What progress has been made during the last decade at stopping DDOS attacks? SMURF attacks creating a DDOS from directed broadcast replies seems to have been mostly mitiga