Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

2010-07-02 Thread Scott Amyoony
_ From: [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:23 AM To: Subject: The results of your email commands The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Unprocessed: move me.

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-02 Thread Net
Thanks for the detailed feedback stefan. Its very much appreciated. I'd also like to say thanks for all the private replies. This will certainly go a long way in helping us decide who we end up going with. Best, On 7/1/10, Stefan Molnar wrote: > > XO has many downs than ups. I am a current XO

Re: Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

2010-07-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
At the very bottom of each message, you will see https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog If you go there, you can unsubscribe. Regards Marshall On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Scott Amyoony wrote: _ From: [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] S

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-02 Thread Net
Thanks for reaching out Brian. We'll certainly keep Saavis in mind and advise as deemed fit. Regards, On 7/1/10, Bellis, Brian wrote: > Dear Funky Fun, > > Have you consider Savvis for IP transit. We are a Tier 1 IP backbone > provider operating AS-3561. We announce approximately 23% of all >

Re: Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

2010-07-02 Thread William Hamilton
On 02/07/2010 13:20, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > At the very bottom of each message, you will see > > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > > If you go there, you can unsubscribe. > > Regards > Marshall > > Was it really necessary to quote the entirety of the digest when responding? B

Re: Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

2010-07-02 Thread Bret Clark
On 07/02/2010 08:28 AM, William Hamilton wrote: On 02/07/2010 13:20, Marshall Eubanks wrote: At the very bottom of each message, you will see https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog If you go there, you can unsubscribe. Regards Marshall Was it really necessary to quote t

Re: Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

2010-07-02 Thread Fearghas McKay
On 2 Jul 2010, at 13:34, Bret Clark wrote: 28.8k Modem users... AT&T iPhone users... the new 14.4 modem of the internet.

Re: Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

2010-07-02 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/2/2010 07:28, William Hamilton wrote: > On 02/07/2010 13:20, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> At the very bottom of each message, you will see >> >> https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog >> >> If you go there, you can unsubscribe. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> > > Was it really necessa

I went so you don't have to -- ICANN Bruxelles pour les nuls

2010-07-02 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
There are a few people who have some passing interest in ICANN so I will inflict upon the list my few paragraph summary of things that matter. All the past large dragons appear to have been killed or reduced to largish lizards. The Four Over Arching Issues, of which only one was real, protecti

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 In the US, the Communications Act of 1934 brought about the creation of the "Universal Service Fund." The idea, more or le

RE: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Holmes,David A
Does a "... certain inventor of the Internet ..." refer to the High Performance and Communications Act of 1991, also known as the "Gore Act"? The 1991 Act, based on a study by Dr. Leonard Kleinrock ("Towards a National Research Network") created the commercial Internet that we know and work with to

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Holmes,David A wrote: Does a "... certain inventor of the Internet ..." refer to the High Performance and Communications Act of 1991, also known as the "Gore Act"? The 1991 Act, based on a study by Dr. Leonard Kleinrock ("Towards a National Research Network") cre

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:51 13AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Holmes,David A wrote: > >> Does a "... certain inventor of the Internet ..." refer to the High >> Performance and Communications Act of 1991, also known as the "Gore >> Act"? The 1991 Act, based on a study b

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Barry Shein
Around 1991 I offered (dial-up) internet to the school district offices in Boston for $1/month/office, 10 districts, $10/month, $120/year, shareable accounts. The person from the board of ed I was talking to said free would be a problem as it might be seen as some sort of graft etc. and might be c

Re: I went so you don't have to -- ICANN Bruxelles pour les nuls

2010-07-02 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 7/2/10 10:00 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: There are a few people who have some passing interest in ICANN so I will inflict upon the list my few paragraph summary of things that matter. I thank you! And I'm sure others here do too The ISPSG (that's the ISP -- Internet.Service.Pro

recommendations on fiber jumper diameter

2010-07-02 Thread Chuck Anderson
Does anyone have any pros/cons with using duplex 2-fiber zipcord jumpers with 2.9mm vs. 2.0mm vs. 1.6mm exterior jacket diameters? Thanks.

Re: I went so you don't have to -- ICANN Bruxelles pour les nuls

2010-07-02 Thread Barry Shein
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. -- -Barry Shein The World | b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD| Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die| Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *o

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-02 Thread andrew.wallace
Why hasn't Gadi left a comment on the article? Andrew - Original Message From: Randy Bush To: andrew.wallace Cc: Jeroen van Aart ; nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, 1 July, 2010 23:01:02 Subject: Re: The Economist, cyber war issue > There is a part 2 as well and this is a bug or a feature

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-02 Thread Randy Bush
> Why hasn't Gadi left a comment on the article? who gives a damn? and if he did, i would not see it. and i'm now plonking you. kiddies! randy

Re: recommendations on fiber jumper diameter

2010-07-02 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Chuck Anderson wrote: Does anyone have any pros/cons with using duplex 2-fiber zipcord jumpers with 2.9mm vs. 2.0mm vs. 1.6mm exterior jacket diameters? It really depends on what you need, intended applications, etc. A thicker jacket will provide a little more protection,

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, July 02, 2010 11:23:21 am Barry Shein wrote: > The Boston education budget is about $800M today, so maybe it was > $500M back then? Whatever, hundreds of millions. But they fight over > the [$120] crumbs! "If you mind the pennies, the dollars will follow."

IPV4/6 Playing together in the same sandbox?

2010-07-02 Thread Wade Blackwell
Good morning from the West coast, I have done a fair bit of reading on IPV4/6 co-existence, from what I have read these two can live together and function totally independent of one another. I have a large QA environment where they would like DHCPv6 deployed in an environment where all ser

Weekly Routing Table Report

2010-07-02 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For historical

Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Crist Clark
We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, > Hello, > > According to Whois data, you company owns the following > IP address space: > > 206.220.220.0/24 > > We would like to get this block of IP addresses for our business > needs

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/2/2010 11:46, Crist Clark wrote: > We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone > wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, > >> Hello, >> >> According to Whois data, you company owns the following >> IP address space: >> >> 206.220.220.0/24 >> >> We would like to get

RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks)
+2 so far here.. Same email, same guy, different netblocks. Spamming for IP's to spam with? --heather ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Heather Schiller Network Security - Verizon Business 1.800.900.0241secur...@verizonbusiness.com -Original Message- From: Crist Clar

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 2, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Crist Clark wrote: > We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone > wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, > >> Hello, >> >> According to Whois data, you company owns the following >> IP address space: >> >> 206.220.220.0/24 >> >> We wo

RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Smith
Feel free to share the sender's "identity" in case they happen to actually be a paying customer of any of us on the list... -Original Message- From: Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks) [mailto:heather.schil...@verizonbusiness.com] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:09 PM To: Crist Clark; Nano

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Thomas
Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks) wrote: +2 so far here.. Same email, same guy, different netblocks. Spamming for IP's to spam with? $5k payable in faked viagra, no doubt. Mike

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Oscar Ricardo Silva
On 07/02/2010 01:46 PM, Crist Clark wrote: We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, Hello, According to Whois data, you company owns the following IP address space: 206.220.220.0/24 We would like to get this block of IP a

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Stange
On 07/02/2010 02:22 PM, Oscar Ricardo Silva wrote: > On 07/02/2010 01:46 PM, Crist Clark wrote: >> We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone >> wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> According to Whois data, you company owns the following >>> IP

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Crist Clark
Bingo! >From an off list response, it looks like this is someone searching for "memorable" (note the range he inquired about with us has the repeated 220 octets in the middle) IP addresses for some project. The email we received was apparently from the same Sergey Gotsulyak of Ideco sent this to a

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Oscar Ricardo Silva wrote: > On 07/02/2010 01:46 PM, Crist Clark wrote: >> >> We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone >> wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> According to Whois data, you company owns the follo

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/2/2010 12:07, Owen DeLong wrote: > > They would have to justify their need with ARIN prior to the transfer > actually taking effect, but, this is now allowed for /22 and shorter > under NRPM 8.3 (for better or worse). > My gut tells me they aren't looking for a transfer. I've been through

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Jess Kitchen
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Kevin Stange wrote: Hello, According to Whois data, you company owns the following IP address space: 206.220.220.0/24 146.6.6.0/24 Anyone else notice they seem to be looking for IP blocks where the middle octets are the same? How could that specific quality be worth $

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Richard Barnes
Maybe APNIC should give him 1.1.1.1 and see how he likes it! On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Jess Kitchen wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Kevin Stange wrote: > > Hello, > > According to Whois data, you company owns the following > IP address space: > > 206.220.220.0/24 >> >

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Rob Evans
I saw a few reports of those today and wrote a short note to forewarn some other European R&E networks, plus our customers. http://webmedia.company.ja.net/edlabblogs/developmenteye/2010/07/03/wanted-memorable-24-for-us5k/ Yup, I know the date on the blog is off by one. :) Cheers, Rob

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Loftis
Makes one wonder what dead:beef::/32 and c0ff:ee00::/32 will go for? :) --On Friday, July 02, 2010 9:48 PM +0100 Rob Evans wrote: I saw a few reports of those today and wrote a short note to forewarn some other European R&E networks, plus our customers. http://webmedia.company.ja.net/edlabb

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Dan White
On 02/07/10 15:21 -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: Makes one wonder what dead:beef::/32 and c0ff:ee00::/32 will go for? :) Even more off topic: No match found for cafe:d00d:4:cafe:babe::/32 -- Dan White

RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Kurt Anderson
Did someone say they had fake viagera? -Original Message- From: Michael Loftis [mailto:mlof...@wgops.com] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:21 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Makes one wonder what dead:beef::/32 and c0ff:ee00::/32 will go for? :) --On Friday, Ju

RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Aaron Wendel
I sent an inquiry in to ARIN yesterday for a certain ASN that was available and was told that management won't allow them to issue requested numbers. :( Aaron -Original Message- From: Dan White [mailto:dwh...@olp.net] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:36 PM To: Michael Loftis Cc: nanog@nanog

BGP Update Report

2010-07-02 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 24-Jun-10 -to- 01-Jul-10 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS6298 105080 6.2% 39.2 -- ASN-CXA-PH-6298-CBS - Cox Communications Inc. 2 - AS9808

The Cidr Report

2010-07-02 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 2 21:11:38 2010 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:40:07PM -0500, Aaron Wendel wrote: > I sent an inquiry in to ARIN yesterday for a certain ASN that was available > and was told that management won't allow them to issue requested numbers. :( That's easy, then... "Can I have any of ASN 0 to $DESIRED-1 or $DESIRED+1 to 65

OT: Career Advice

2010-07-02 Thread Gerren Murphy
Hello All, Anyone out there willing to entertain a few career advice-related questions off list? Nothing too deep, I promise, just a little advice from those of you who have been in the industry a bit longer than I have? Thanks for any and all assistance, and have a great weekend.

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-02 Thread Adam Rothschild
Here in the New York Metro, XO's collocation offering is pretty solid. No frills, but competently managed, and offered under a reasonable pricing model for retail collocation. I've had similarly positive experiences with their transport side of the house. I've not looked at the IP product... I c

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:51 13AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Holmes,David A wrote: Does a "... certain inventor of the Internet ..." refer to the High Performance and Communications Act of 1991, also known as the "Gore Act"? The

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread James Hess
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > Crist Clark wrote: An interesting if disturbing thing to see... I suppose there is a possibility that some IP address speculator is trying to er, acquire interesting /24s in anticipation of RIR address exhaustion. I have doubts that an uns

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-02 Thread Jared Geiger
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Adam Rothschild > wrote: > Here in the New York Metro, XO's collocation offering is pretty solid. > No frills, but competently managed, and offered under a reasonable > pricing model for retail collocation. > > I've had similarly positive experiences with their tra