Policies from experience

2010-03-10 Thread Djamel Sadok
Hi everyone, I am curious regarding the use of "policies", rules or goals to manage a network at the three levels: business, traffic engineering and routing. I have these questions: 1) What examples of policies could be enforced at each level? (the simplest case being that of routing policies usi

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Jens Link
Owen DeLong writes: >> denial >> anger >> bargaining >> depression > acceptance<--- My dual-stacked network and I are here. So am I. But most IT people I talk to are still at the denial phase. And there is not much one can do about it. Jens, 566 days to go -- -

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Andy Koch
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 04:55, Jens Link wrote: > Owen DeLong writes: > >>> denial >>> anger >>> bargaining >>> depression >> acceptance    <--- My dual-stacked network and I are here. > > So am I. But most IT people I talk to are still at the denial phase. And > there is not much one can do abou

Re: T1 aggregation and data center gateways

2010-03-10 Thread Scott Morris
Isn't that just CYA? Thank the lawyers and "corporate compliance offices" and professional whiners. Scott John Peach wrote: On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:00:45 -0500 Tim Sanderson [1] wrote: [snip] THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL

Re: T1 aggregation and data center gateways

2010-03-10 Thread Tim Franklin
> Isn't that just CYA? Thank the lawyers and "corporate compliance >offices" and professional whiners. The obvious answer is that if your corporate email policy makes you look like an idiot, post to mailing lists from a personal email address that doesn't make you look like an idiot. This

Re: T1 aggregation and data center gateways

2010-03-10 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 14:09:18 Tim Franklin wrote: > > Isn't that just CYA? Thank the lawyers and "corporate compliance > >offices" and professional whiners. > > The obvious answer is that if your corporate email policy makes you look > like an idiot, post to mailing lists from a person

Cisco XR 12000 Series Router demonstration has been delayed...

2010-03-10 Thread Jonathan Bayles
The issue occurred during preventative maintenance of one of our data centers when a human error caused an electrical overload on the systems. This caused Cisco.com and other applications to go down. Because of the severity of the overload, the redundancy measures in some of the applications a

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:55 AM, Jens Link wrote: > Owen DeLong writes: > >>> denial >>> anger >>> bargaining >>> depression >> acceptance<--- My dual-stacked network and I are here. > > So am I. But most IT people I talk to are still at the denial phase. And True > there is not much one can

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Snyder
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Gregory Hicks wrote: > The press release at > http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html states that the > pricing for the CRS-3 STARTS AT $90K... Is that the cost for a nameplate you can stick on an empty rack with dark glass so you can fool people vis

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-10 Thread Huizinga, Rene
Cisco and linerate...if it would be a Juniper I could say OK, on a Cisco, first see then believe. Also, seeing CRS-1's, is the '3' in CRS-3 the multiplier or magnitude of problems to be expected compared to its 'little' buggy sister.. ? :) -Original Message- From: Bob Snyder [mailto:rs

CRS-3 x T1600

2010-03-10 Thread GIULIANO (UOL)
JUNIPER Networks did a press note about the new T-1600 components: http://www.juniper.net/us/en/company/press-center/press-releases/2010/pr_2010_02_04-08_30.html And now CISCO with the new components for the CRS-1 ... to increase it to "new" CRS-3. Both companies looks like want to reach 4 Tbps

Res: CRS-3 x T1600

2010-03-10 Thread GIULIANO (UOL)
JUNIPER Networks did a press note about the new T-1600 components: http://www.juniper.net/us/en/company/press-center/press-releases/2010/pr_2010_02_04-08_30.html And now CISCO with the new components for the CRS-1 ... to increase it to "new" CRS-3. T1600 - 250 Gbps full duplex / slot CRS-3 - 120

MPLS VLAN service

2010-03-10 Thread James Jones
I am looking for MPLS L2 VPN that will let give a ethernet port in springfield, MA @ one federal TO Wellington, NZ @ AT&T House. Can anyone here do this? Also can you provide me with some ball park pricing. Please reply off list. -- James Jones +1-413-667-9199 ja...@freedomnet.co.nz

IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today? I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but anything outside of "testbed environments" and "trials" as in Comcast's recent announcement seems to be all that is available. I'm being tasked with coming up with an

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/10/10 11:00 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today? > > I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but > anything outside of "testbed environments" and "trials" as in > Comcast's recent announcement seems to be all that is

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today? > > I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but > anything outside of "testbed environments" and "trials" as in > Comcast's recent announcement seems to be a

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Chris Grundemann
SixXS maintains a list here: http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ipv6transit. The IPv6 BGP weather map is a good resource: http://bgpmon.net/weathermap.php?inet=6 You can also use Geoff Huston's IPv6 CIDR report: http://www.cidr-report.org/v6/as2.0/ I should also note that my employer, tw t

RE: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Seth Mattinen > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:19 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: IPv6 enabled carriers? > > > VZB - yes, good luck > > ... Not all of Verizon's pops are IPv6 > enabled, which may cause you trouble ordering it. > ~Seth Recent

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Bob Snyder wrote: Linecards are interesting. We get a 100Gb card, we get a linerate 14-port 10Gb card, but apparently there's still only a single port OC-768 40Gb card. There has been claims that volume for OC-768 is low so no major effort has been seen to reduce OC-768

RE: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread John van Oppen
We have a dual-stack 10G link to XO here in Seattle so they are doing it as well... Savvis is not doing v6 yet either so far as I know, we are going to make that an issue at our next renewal.I am told that level3 is working on a full dual-stack roll-out currently and that it should be availab

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Chris Gotstein
We are getting native IPv6 from HE and Qwest at this time. Qwest was doing a beta of IPv6 that we were (are) a part of. Not sure of they have ended the beta and rolled out to production. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com |

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mercredi 10 mars 2010 à 11:18 -0800, Seth Mattinen a écrit : > On 3/10/10 11:00 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today? > > > > I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but > > anything outside of "testbed environments"

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today? > > I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but > anything outside of "testbed environments" and "trials" as in > Comcast's recent announcement seems to be

ethernet to serial converters with ACLs

2010-03-10 Thread Michael Holstein
Can anyone recommend a cheap Ethernet to Serial (RS232/422/485) converter with functionality like the Lantronix boxes .. except one that supports access lists (nothing complicated .. maybe a list of 5 approved hosts). I need a bunch of single port devices, not an access-server for a rack. I could

RE: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Routing Bits
It looks like Comcast offers IPv6 today. Check the below link out to see if your data center is near any of their POP's. I believe Comcast's trials are for their Docsis products. http://www.comcast.com/dedicatedinternet/default.html

Re: ethernet to serial converters with ACLs

2010-03-10 Thread Caleb Tennis
On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Michael Holstein wrote: > Can anyone recommend a cheap Ethernet to Serial (RS232/422/485) > converter with functionality like the Lantronix boxes .. except one that > supports access lists (nothing complicated .. maybe a list of 5 approved > hosts). I need a bunch of

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 26, Issue 50

2010-03-10 Thread Ralph Wallace
>Message: 13 >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:18:35 -0800 >From: Seth Mattinen >Subject: Re: IPv6 enabled carriers? >To: nanog@nanog.org >Message-ID: <4b97f08b.2070...@rollernet.us> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >On 3/10/10 11:00 AM, Charles Mills wrote: >> Does anyone have a list of carrier

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Owen DeLong wrote: [..] > Hurricane Electric has a full production dual-stack environment. > >> I'm being tasked with coming up with an IPv6 migration plan for a data >> center. >> >> Mostly interested in if ATT, Level3, GLBX, Saavis, Verizon Business >> and Qwest are capable as those are the typ

Signing of the ARPA zone

2010-03-10 Thread Joe Abley
Colleagues, This is a technical, operational announcement regarding changes to the ARPA top-level domain. Apologies in advance for duplicates received through different mailing lists. No specific action is requested of operators. This message is for your information only. The ARPA zone is abo

10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Mirko Maffioli
I'm searching for a switch with at least one 10Gbase-T ethernet port and some gigabit ethernet for lab test. >From cisco web site i've seen for example a 3560 model with X2 module and CX4 port but nothing with 10Gb-T. Unfortunately my budget couldn't arrive to nexus or cat6500 Do you have som

Re: 10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Bill Blackford
You might look at Juniper EX3200 with a EX-UM-2XFP and then optics of your choice (EX-XFP-10GE-SR) -b On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mirko Maffioli wrote: > I'm searching for a switch with at least one 10Gbase-T ethernet port > and some gigabit ethernet for lab test. > >From cisco web site i'v

Wireless Ethernet bridge

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Gridelli
Hi All, I need a wireless bridge solution that allows to pass jumbo frames over a distance of 3 miles, using the 5.8 GHz band. The original solution was a Proxim Tsunami GX 200, but unfortunately it doesn't go beyond an MTU of 1536 bytes: we need at least 1544 bytes, ideally between 4470 and 9212

Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge

2010-03-10 Thread Mike Lyon
Check out DragonWave: http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/ -Mike On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Stefano Gridelli wrote: > Hi All, > > I need a wireless bridge solution that allows to pass jumbo frames over a > distance of 3 miles, using the 5.8 GHz band. The original solution was a > Proxim Tsunam

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Jens Link
Owen DeLong writes: > I spend much of my time talking to groups of people about this. I > have managed to get several members of such groups from denial to > bargaining and sometimes eve depression in a single session. I did several presentations about IPv6 basics myself and there was very posi

Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge

2010-03-10 Thread Scott Brown/Clack/ESD
The Dragonwave would be my first choice too, but they are not in the 5.8GHz band. The Motorola PTP-600 has a 2000 byte MTU, but doesn't do multimode handoff. What radio to get will come down to what you are willing to give up -- if you are willing to drop the 5.8Ghz band and go with 11Ghz then th

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Jens Link wrote: > Owen DeLong writes: > >> I spend much of my time talking to groups of people about this. I >> have managed to get several members of such groups from denial to >> bargaining and sometimes eve depression in a single session. > > I did several pre

Re: 10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron Porter
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mirko Maffioli wrote: > I'm searching for a switch with at least one 10Gbase-T ethernet port > and some gigabit ethernet for lab test. We're looking at Arista for this kind of config http://www.aristanetworks.com/en/products/7100t

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Jim Burwell
On 3/10/2010 05:06, Andy Koch wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 04:55, Jens Link wrote: > >> Owen DeLong writes: >> >> denial anger bargaining depression >>> acceptance<--- My dual-stacked network and I are here. >>> >> So am I. But most IT peop

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Owen DeLong
IMHO, only personally experienced pain is going to push a lot of these sorts of people into ipv6. By pain, I mean things such as not being able to deploy their new service (web site, email server, VPN box, whatever) on the internet due to lack of ipv4 addresses, having to implement double NAT, C

Re: 10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
arista 7120t-4s... On 03/10/2010 02:04 PM, Bill Blackford wrote: > You might look at Juniper EX3200 with a EX-UM-2XFP and then optics of your > choice (EX-XFP-10GE-SR) > > -b > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mirko Maffioli > wrote: > >> I'm searching for a switch with at least one 10Gbase-

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Jim Burwell
On 3/10/2010 16:57, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> IMHO, only personally experienced pain is going to push a lot of these >> sorts of people into ipv6. By pain, I mean things such as not being >> able to deploy their new service (web site, email server, VPN box, >> whatever) on the internet due to lack

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Daniel Senie
Well, it's like this... there's still no native IPv6 connectivity in most data centers, residences, businesses or wireless, most vendors of networking equipment have not had a lot of mileage on their IPv6 code if they even have it fully working, and, frankly, the IPv6 community has been predicti

RE: ethernet to serial converters with ACLs

2010-03-10 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
>On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Michael Holstein wrote: >> Can anyone recommend a cheap Ethernet to Serial (RS232/422/485) >> converter with functionality like the Lantronix boxes .. except one that >> supports access lists (nothing complicated .. maybe a list of 5 approved >> hosts). I need a bunc

Re: 10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Randy Bush
> arista 7120t-4s... hot box. but you are giving away the secret sauce! randy

Qwest DNS Problems?

2010-03-10 Thread Daniel
Did anyone notice any issues with Qwest DNS the past hour or two? We've had users with intermittent issues and the weird thing is while they can't resolve certain domains within Qwest's network I can query the same DNS servers from outside of Qwest's network and the names resolve just fine. Dan

Re: Qwest DNS Problems?

2010-03-10 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 3/10/2010 9:40 PM, Daniel wrote: > Did anyone notice any issues with Qwest DNS the past hour or two? We've had > users with intermittent issues and the weird thing is while they can't > resolve certain domains within Qwest's network I can query the same DNS > servers from outside of Qwest's netw

RE: 10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Joe Goldberg
I have to agree the Arista is a great box at a great price (comparatively). I was really impressed with the performance in our testing for top of rack switches. The Juniper EX3200 with 10GigE uplink card works really well too but you are limited to 2x10GE ports per switch. We have a couple of th

Re: ethernet to serial converters with ACLs

2010-03-10 Thread Jon Meek
Avocent / Cyclades boxes have ACL capability (they run Linux) and can be used with EV-DO/GSM modems. They may not be the lowest cost solution, but there is a central management system and a wide range of serial interface units from single port to at least 32 ports. Jon Full disclosure: I was a mem

RE: ethernet to serial converters with ACLs

2010-03-10 Thread Uri Joskovitch
What would be there cost in qty of hundreds? Thanks Uri

Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge

2010-03-10 Thread Ryan Wilkins
Instead of the PTP600, you might try looking at the PTP800. Again, not 5.8 GHz but does up to 368 Mbps full duplex over the air interface, jumbo frames up to 9600 bytes, AES 128 or 256 bit encryption, 11, 18, 23, or 26 GHz depending on what regulatory agency you fall under. Will do fiber

Re: 10GBase-t switch

2010-03-10 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:26:16 +0900 > From: Randy Bush > > > arista 7120t-4s... > > hot box. but you are giving away the secret sauce! Hot box for the datacenter, but small buffers make it unsuited for long distances. In the right place, this box can't be beaten in the price/performance re

Re: IPv6 enabled carriers?

2010-03-10 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Chris Grundemann wrote: SixXS maintains a list here: http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ipv6transit. I think that list should also include TeliaSonera. TSIC does offer v6 transit, although their product sheet only mentions IPv4. -- Pekka Savola "Y

Re: FW: ethernet to serial converters with ACLs

2010-03-10 Thread Express Networks
We've used mikrotik routerboards that support ev-do as wireless serial adapters..It is only good for a single port application.. but it works.. and at a price of $99.. it would certainly support access lists.. we have them dial back to a pptp concentrator...just a thought.. > > -