RE: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Bailey Stephen
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but what about solid state hard drives? Think they are in the high GB capacity now and solves the problem of no moving parts? Although I'm all for hardware based devices, we recently been to Cisco to see the new Cisco ASR1000 switch uses an underlying

Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Nathan Ward
On 20/02/2009, at 9:51 PM, Bailey Stephen wrote: Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but what about solid state hard drives? Think they are in the high GB capacity now and solves the problem of no moving parts? Regular CF works fine. CF's interface is ATA, so you can drop it in

Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread William Hamilton
> > > Steve Bertrand wrote: >> Ryan Harden wrote: >> >>> While you could probably build a linux router that is just as fast as a >>> real hardware router, you're always going to run into the moving pieces >>> part of the equation. >>> >> >> Not if you boot directly from USB key into memory with no

BGP Update Report

2009-02-20 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 19-Jan-09 -to- 19-Feb-09 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS9583 252388 5.4% 168.9 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 2 - AS7643 167194 3.6%

The Cidr Report

2009-02-20 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 20 21:14:44 2009 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Giuliano Peritore
The long (176) AS20912 prepend incident was due to a misconfiguration of a BGP router we were testing. The problem is that differently to Cisco the syntax of the prepend field on thius system is not a string (eg. "20912 20912 20912") but an integer, that the user interface _s

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Tomas Caslavsky
Hi all, I can only cofnirm that AS47868 is using also Mikrotik as their border BGP router Tomas Giuliano Peritore wrote: The long (176) AS20912 prepend incident was due to a misconfiguration of a BGP router we were testing. The problem is that differently to Cisco the sy

Re: do I need to maintain with RADB?

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Provo
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 01:15:40PM -0800, Darren Bolding wrote: > Is there a good source to explain the whole RADB "system", and > tools/processes people use to maintain routing policies/filters based on it? > I'd like to both review and make sure my current understanding is accurate, > and have a

Any twitter admins here?

2009-02-20 Thread ed
Hi All, Does anyone here work for Twitter, or have contact details of anyone who might. We're a large organisation who look after the network for another large organisation who are using Twitter in their broadcast promotions. Unfortunately our network has been blocked from accessing Twitter and

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Giuliano Peritore wrote: The problem is that differently to Cisco the syntax of the prepend field on thius system is not a string (eg. "20912 20912 20912") but an integer, that the user interface _should_ limit to the interval 0-16. ... The producer has been

Re: Any twitter admins here?

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, ed wrote: > Unfortunately our network has been blocked from accessing Twitter and > their support cases require twitter for updates, so any contact details > would be gratefully received. http://twitter.zendesk.com/requests/portal/new ? -- Jeremy L. Gaddis http

Re: Any twitter admins here?

2009-02-20 Thread ed
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:07:24AM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, ed wrote: > > Unfortunately our network has been blocked from accessing Twitter and > > their support cases require twitter for updates, so any contact details > > would be gratefully received. > > h

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Dorn Hetzel
Replacing what is conventially thought to be a string with an integer multiplier seems a massive violation of the principle of least astonishment. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Giuliano Peritore wrote: > >The problem is that differently to Cisco

Re: Any twitter admins here?

2009-02-20 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > > Unfortunately our network has been blocked from accessing Twitter and > > > their support cases require twitter for updates, so any contact details > > > would be gratefully received. We're seeing something similar, started Wednesday afternoon ish It gets used a lot here including on air so

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Dorn Hetzel wrote: Replacing what is conventially thought to be a string with an integer multiplier seems a massive violation of the principle of least astonishment. On a Cisco running 12.0S: route-map test1 set as-path prepend last-as ? <1-10> number of last-AS prepen

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Mathias Sundman
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Dorn Hetzel wrote: Replacing what is conventially thought to be a string with an integer multiplier seems a massive violation of the principle of least astonishment. 3. Prepend number of times entered modulo 256, is just br

Comprehensive community Guideline and Policies for an AS

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Maimon
I am looking to put together a comprehensive BGP communities guideline and policies for an AS starting from a blank slate. When I say comprehensive, I mean covers *everything* that is known to be best practice such as: Route Type Prepends Learned from Peers Learned from Peers Peers Learned fr

external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Maimon
Does anyone have a best practice list of things to disable/filter/turn off on ethernet ports l2 connected to other AS's cdp stp switchport negotiate vtp if trunking, limit vlans, no vlan1 So on so forth. Switches do so many darn things all by themselves, as any packet capture shows. Thanks,

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Dorn Hetzel
It's just a personal opinion, but I would think that if someone is going to make the rest of the net suffer the ugliness of a n n n n n n n n n n n n prepend, then it's not unreasonable they should have to look at the ugliness in their config file as

RE: external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread Paul Stewart
http://www.ams-ix.net/technical/config_guide/ has some great info specific to IX connections.. Paul -Original Message- From: Joe Maimon [mailto:jmai...@ttec.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:42 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: external L2 ethernet connections Does anyone have a bes

Re: external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread isabel dias
Joe, I take credit card payments and we can agree on a daily rate ...as after all you are into "IT Consultancy". Just use the available search engine optimizers to build your knowledge based by performing the "black had v white hat" searches :-) I am here still what is your budget?

Re: external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread Adam Davenport
If you're using a Cisco device on your side, you'll likely want to disable MOP as well: http://www.ciscotaccc.com/kaidara-advisor/lanswitching/showcase?case=K20523308 Adam Davenport / a...@choopa.com www.choopa.com / 1.866.2.CHOOPA Joe Maimon wrote: Does anyone have a best practice list of t

Re: external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Maimon
I like your community spirit. Are you a member of the NANOG community because: a) You want to educate yourself b) You want to educate others c) You want to participate in flame wars d) You want to read flame wars e) You want to denigrate those seeking to educate themselves or others You cant ha

Re: external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread isabel dias
I ma not too sure if that is a comment that needs another expert answer .but i can think of a few possible answers YES. "although I'm a little afraid, however I'd like to try it" ."IT Consultancy"? --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Joe Maimon wrote: > From: Joe Maimon > Subject: Re: external L2

RE: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
>From the end-user perspective, it makes sense to make the "prepend" parameter an integer. The only thing an end-user really needs is routing policy (primary/backup selection) and sometimes AS path prepending is the only solution. Allowing them to insert third-party AS numbers into the AS path incr

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Dorn Hetzel
If we really want bgp for idiots, perhaps a checkbox for "make this (slightly,more,greatly) less preferred for incoming traffic" would do the job :) Then again, perhaps people who want the results of their local configuration distributed to the ends of the earth should at least read a book or two.

Re: anyone else seeing very long AS paths?

2009-02-20 Thread Rodney Dunn
Typo in one part so sending to make it accurate. > The workaround is to implement bgp maxas-limit X on the > device that after prepending would need to send an update with over 255 AS > hops. Since IOS limits the inbound prepending value to 10 the most that > could be added iss 11 AS hops (10 o

Re: Comprehensive community Guideline and Policies for an AS

2009-02-20 Thread Charles Gucker
> What I am looking for is a best practice guide on community policy setup. > > Barring that, I plan to continue examining every publicly published > guideline to try to produce one, but likely as not it will suffer from the > all to common human failing of shortsightedness. Feel free to look at o

Weekly Routing Table Report

2009-02-20 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
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Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi, .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Giuliano Peritore wrote: > I think that the case of AS47868 is the same, because I seed the > modulo was involved too. For those interested, I made an overview of longest AS paths observed per day, starting with Febru

Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Leen Besselink
William Warren wrote: > On 2/19/2009 9:37 AM, Ryan Harden wrote: > While you could probably build a linux router that is just as fast as a > real hardware router, you're always going to run into the moving pieces > part of the equation. > > In almost all scenarios, moving parts are more prone to f

Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Leen Besselink
Ray Burkholder wrote: >> In scaling upward. How would a linux router even if a kernel guru were >> to tweak and compile an optimized build, compare to a 7600/RSP720CXL or >> a Juniper PIC in ASIC? At some point packets/sec becomes a limitation I >> would think. >> > > Is anyone building linux/bsd-

sorta-OT graph snmp values

2009-02-20 Thread Scott Weeks
First, please don't respond with "use mrtg, rrdtool, cricket, etc, etc." Silly 'layer 8' reasons are keeping me from being able to utilize these tools at this time. I have a need to graph SNMP values created by using a simple shell script on a Solaris box. I have output like this: 02-20-

Trying to contact MSN/hotmail/microsoft admin

2009-02-20 Thread Dale Rumph
All, Sorry to post this on-list but I am trying to reach anyone that works for or has a contact at the MSN/Hotmail NOC. We have been trying all week to reach someone. Currently a customer (Cable MSO) of ours has a few /24's being dropped at the entry point to that network. If someone could pl

Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Leen Besselink said: > And I had a ticket from a few months ago with one of our transit-providers > because they had a Juniper router reboot, it turned out this was because > a harddisk failure of one of the routing engines. > > So 'real'-routers have those moving parts as well.

Re: sorta-OT graph snmp values

2009-02-20 Thread Ken A
GD::Graph::lines does this easily, and there are plenty of examples to work from. (might be too much a pain if you don't have GD available) Ken Scott Weeks wrote: First, please don't respond with "use mrtg, rrdtool, cricket, etc, etc." Silly 'layer 8' reasons are keeping me from being able

Comcast Abuse Contact

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Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Jack Bates
Leen Besselink wrote: And I had a ticket from a few months ago with one of our transit-providers because they had a Juniper router reboot, it turned out this was because a harddisk failure of one of the routing engines. Given the redundancy capabilities of Juniper M/T series, that actually sc

Re: IPv6 Confusion

2009-02-20 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009, Bob Snyder wrote: > Frank Bulk wrote: > >Considering that the only real IPv6-ready CPE at your favorite N.A. > >electronics store is Apple's AirPort, it seems to me that it will be > >several years before the majority (50% plus 1) of our respective customer > >bases has IPv

Followup: anyone else seeing very long AS paths?

2009-02-20 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
I know this is getting boring, but I don't want to see information lying around hinting that the ISPs around the world were to blame for the Monday incident due to their sloppy software upgrade policies. That's not the case; a lot of very recent IOS releases were affected. There was lots of confli

Re: Comprehensive community Guideline and Policies for an AS

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Maimon
Charles Gucker wrote: What I am looking for is a best practice guide on community policy setup. Barring that, I plan to continue examining every publicly published guideline to try to produce one, but likely as not it will suffer from the all to common human failing of shortsightedness. Feel

Re: sorta-OT graph snmp values

2009-02-20 Thread Brian Epstein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/20/2009 02:40 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: | a jpeg, gif or png file. I tried using gnuplot, but I can't seem to | make it work on outputting only to a file. Even using "set output | graph.png". Can someone push me in the right direction? Did you:

RESOLVED Re: sorta-OT graph snmp values

2009-02-20 Thread Scott Weeks
Thanks to everyone for the help! :-) Especially to Brian Sherwood who helped me finally figure it out. I didn't "set terminal png" because I didn't have a terminal connected to the Solaris box and wasn't using X. However, this needs to be set anyway. Also, "set output graph.png" needs to

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Re: real hardware router VS linux router

2009-02-20 Thread Eric Gearhart
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Bill Nash wrote: > Having carped, I'm obligated to offer a solution: > The technical discussion is certainly interesting to a small subset of NANOG > participants, I'm sure (I do find it interesting, I promise), but I'm > thinking this conversation is better elsewh

comcast price check

2009-02-20 Thread John Martinez
Does any one here use comcast's ethernet services? If so, what is their price range? Thanks in advance.

Re: comcast price check

2009-02-20 Thread Steven King
Comcast has an Ethernet service? John Martinez wrote: > Does any one here use comcast's ethernet services? > If so, what is their price range? > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- Steve King Network Engineer - Liquid Web, Inc. Cisco Certified Network Associate CompTIA Linux+ Certified Profess

Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)

2009-02-20 Thread Ryan A. Krenzischek
Yes, they do. You can find more information here: http://business.comcast.com/ethernet/dedicated-internet.aspx Although, I'm sufficiently disappointed with Comcast's Business Cable service. I have had them since 6-NOV-2008 and they took 4 months and 1 week to fix a cabling problem at the he

Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)

2009-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Ryan, It's always your equipment. You should know that none of their customers have any clue how to run a network and therefore should remove them immediately. Any customer who is not running Windows and not connected directly to the router is to blame for any problems. Jeff On Sat, Feb 21, 2009

Re: external L2 ethernet connections

2009-02-20 Thread Paul Wall
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Adam Davenport wrote: > If you're using a Cisco device on your side, you'll likely want to disable > MOP as well: > > http://www.ciscotaccc.com/kaidara-advisor/lanswitching/showcase?case=K20523308 > > Adam Davenport / a...@choopa.com > www.choopa.com / 1.866.2.CHOO

Re: do I need to maintain with RADB?

2009-02-20 Thread Paul Wall
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Heather Schiller wrote: > No. Use of a routing registry is not required.. ARIN's, RADB's or > otherwise. It's not required, however it's a good operational best-practice, and it helps with automating prefix-list generation/management. > Check w/ your provider, b

Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)

2009-02-20 Thread Ryan A. Krenzischek
Well that explains it all since we are a *BSD shop. Ryan On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:02:12 -0500 From: Jeffrey Lyon To: Ryan A. Krenzischek Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check) Ryan, It's always your equipme

Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)

2009-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Ryan, Last I talked to Comcast running BSD meant you're a hacker. Jeff On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Ryan A. Krenzischek wrote: > > Well that explains it all since we are a *BSD shop. > > Ryan > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:02:12 -0500 >> From: Je

Re: comcast price check

2009-02-20 Thread Andrew Prowant
Yes, Comcast started providing transit late last year. A couple hosting providers have connectivity to them here in Chicago. FDCServers.net has 30Gbps or 40Gbps to them. http://www.t1r.com/client/view.php?rid=55765 Steven King wrote: Comcast has an Ethernet service? John Martinez wrote:

Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)

2009-02-20 Thread Steve Pirk
Ouch! We have some unsatisfied customers... :-) I have had business class for 1.5 years now, and granted, there have been issues and I usually ask for tier 2 within a few minutes, but I am fairly satisfied. Speed just jumped to say 6-10Mbs down, 2+ up a couple of weeks ago and it works well fo

Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)

2009-02-20 Thread Sharma, Kapeel
This is BS how narrow minded our providers are. -- Sent using BlackBerry - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Lyon To: Ryan A. Krenzischek Cc: NANOG list Sent: Fri Feb 20 22:28:30 2009 Subject: Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check) Ryan, Last I