On 28/07/2010 15:17, Tony Finch wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
Weren't the FCC and at&t recently suggesting that VoIP was the future of
telephony?
BT are currently upgrading the UK's phone system to VOIP. But it's running
on a private network.
Aren't BT still failing to trust
On 2010-07-30, at 07:59, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> Hmm. Looks like an RFC, but isn't. Do you know if there are any plans to
> actually publish this ?
The authoritative and current ICANN DPS is published here:
https://www.iana.org/dnssec/
My understanding is that the current copyright and th
On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:55 AM, James Hess wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Franck Martin
wrote:
Hmmm, from the interview of the British guy, the smart card seems
to be in UK (he did a lapsus on it), which differs from what you
describe.
You gotta read up on the whole ceremony and
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Joe Abley wrote:
One observation from a non-crypto operations guy that was drawn into
this project and has learnt a lot from having to implement the
infrastructure designed by real crypto people: security is not always
obvious. What seems like a flaw is often not, and what
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
> Hmmm, from the interview of the British guy, the smart card seems to be in UK
> (he did a lapsus on it), which differs from what you describe.
You gotta read up on the whole ceremony and their statement of
practices: https://www.iana.o
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> From: "Doug Barton"
> To: "Franck Martin"
> Cc: "Joe Abley" , nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Friday, 30 July, 2010 3:49:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Web expert on his 'catastrophe' key for the internet
> On 07/29
On 07/29/10 20:09, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:45 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
>
>> I suggest that it should be seriously considered to revoke the role of
>> RKSH from the person that used that role to obtain publicity and self
>> promotion, and request the immediate retu
On 07/29/10 20:23, Franck Martin wrote:
> I should read the spec
Yes, preferably before commenting on it publicly ...
Doug (... oops)
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> A pretty good article that puts a lot of the rest of it back into perspective:
>
> http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/07/fantasy-role-playing-has-no-place-in-dnssec
Good article indeed.
It is highly unlikely that we will ever need the service of the RKSH,
I agree that a well know public figure
Subject: Re: Web expert on his 'catastrophe' key for the internet
On 2010-07-28, at 18:24, andrew.wallace wrote:
> I think there is a social vulnerability in a group of people who need to
> travel,
> a lot of the time, by plane, to exactly the same location to make new keys to
> r
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:45 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
> I suggest that it should be seriously considered to revoke the role of
> RKSH from the person that used that role to obtain publicity and self
> promotion, and request the immediate return of all cryptographic
> material. This is not something
> By publicising the list of crypto officers ICANN aims to increase
> transparency in the normal process (no drills required). We have no reason to
> think that our last-resort options will ever be exercised, but we have
> planned for them nonetheless because this is an important system and all
On 2010-07-28, at 18:24, andrew.wallace wrote:
> I think there is a social vulnerability in a group of people who need to
> travel,
> a lot of the time, by plane, to exactly the same location to make new keys to
> reset DNSSEC.
Let's try to forget this "reset DNSSEC" meme. This is a technical
The story keeps growing out of proportion and in the wrong direction ...
This one claims that "six" guys hold the keys to bring back porn :
http://indyposted.com/34983/six-guys-have-the-keys-to-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-15785
And ABC is talking about the "brotherhood" :
http://abcnew
On 7/28/2010 1:16 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>> Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
>>> number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
>>> anything by themselves.
>> Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
>>
>> Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
>> number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
>> anything by themselves.
>
> Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
> shares so ICANN can't sign anything without th
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:20:51 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
> Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
> number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
> anything by themselves.
Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
> Obviously you have approximately zero understanding of the crypto community.
> They tend to be the most paranoid people out there - and the *only* way to get
> acceptance of a signed root was to make sure that ICANN is *not* in posession
> of enough keying material to sign a key by itself. In ad
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:24:57 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> What I think is, this is leaving them wide open to attack. If an attack was
> state-sponsored, its likely they would be able to stop those selected people
> reaching the location in the United States by way of operational officers
> inte
> Of course this is just my opinion.
Which is totally unfounded and equivalent to a ton of dung.
Please stop with the non-operational content conspiracy theories, tnx.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com (andrew.wallace) wrote:
>
>> A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
>>help
>> restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
>>
>>
>> Paul Kane talked to Eddie M
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Leen Besselink wrote:
>
> If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
>
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-brit-given-a-key-to-unlock-the-internet
See also the press releases from Bath University:
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/2010/07/26/internet-secur
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
>
> Weren't the FCC and at&t recently suggesting that VoIP was the future of
> telephony?
BT are currently upgrading the UK's phone system to VOIP. But it's running
on a private network.
Tony.
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On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 10:33 +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> One, I do not see the operational relevance of this "news".
The real problem is that articles like this DO get considerable
attention in the UK - a place where "the internet" has yet to gain true
understanding and recognition as a national
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com (andrew.wallace) wrote:
> A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
> help
> restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
>
>
> Paul Kane talked to Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM programme about what he might
> be
> c
Leen Besselink wrote:
> On 07/28/2010 02:21 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>>
>> That plus the phrase "restarting the Internet" is more than a little bit
>> misleading.
>>
>>
>
> If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
>
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-br
On 07/28/2010 02:21 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
That plus the phrase "restarting the Internet" is more than a little bit
misleading.
If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-brit-given-a-key-to-unlock-the-internet
By
On 28 July 2010 04:52, Joe Greco wrote:
> Right, I think I pointed out it was basically SMS, despite being billed
> as "enterprise paging," which brings us back to the previous question
>
> Or are you saying that there are SMS networks out there that aren't part
> of the cellular network? :-)
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:37:57 -0400, Joe Greco wrote:
> > Relatively speaking, at&t's Enterprise Paging (which appears to just be
> > enterprise SMS with a TAP/SNPP gateway) has been a lot more reliable. I
> > have no idea how reliable it'd be in a major telecom crisis, of course.
>
> I'd expec
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:21:56 -0400, Jim Richardson
wrote:
That's already a problem for getting alert pages. Any actual *pager*
companies left? They all seem to have gone to SMS systems.
SkyTel is the only one I remember. Sadly, their coverage is about that of
Cricket or Clearwire. (at leas
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:37:57 CDT, Joe Greco said:
> Aren't there still some satellite pager providers out there? :-)
Works fine till solar flare season. :)
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> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
> > As wonderful as the new communications paradigms are, do we also
> > have a situation now developing where it might eventually become
> > very difficult or even impossible to ensure out-of-band lines of
> > communications remain available?
>
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
>
> As wonderful as the new communications paradigms are, do we also
> have a situation now developing where it might eventually become
> very difficult or even impossible to ensure out-of-band lines of
> communications remain available?
>
That's
> Those of us who lived through the Morris worm fragmenting the Arpa/Milnet in
> 1988 and things like major worm-induced outages remember what a hassle it was
> to *really* restart the net. Calling up your upstream on the phone asking if
> it
> was safe to turn up the link again, or looking for h
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:43:21 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
> help
> restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
You *do* realize this "news" is like two months old, right?
http://www.icann.org/en/announce
Great! So I assume he is an elder of the Internet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmxXp62O8g
On 7/27/10 4:43 PM, "andrew.wallace" wrote:
> A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
> help
> restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
>
>
>
A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
help
restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
Paul Kane talked to Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM programme about what he might be
called upon to do in the event of an international online emergency.
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