Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-28 Thread Nick
Thanks for all the ideas. Right now, Im talking with Maxwifi. Go the route of letting them deal with everything. Im still exploring other cheaper options: A) 3G/4G wireless service. A Orange rep is building a data plan to support 160 devices and to find out data usage in the area and availa

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27/03/14 14:04, Dustin Jurman wrote: > There are plenty of Microwave products that produce that type of > bandwidth and more, LOS and NLOS. I do not know if there is a > WISPA counterpart in Scotland but you may want to reach out to > WISPA to see

RE: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread Dustin Jurman
partners are in the area. Dustin Jurman -Original Message- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:35 PM To: Nick; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: WISP or other options 20-60mbps is a tall order. I¹d say cellular.. Maybe you can

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread Alex Howells
On 27 March 2014 05:09, Warren Bailey < wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote: > I think the real problem here is the event is for 2 days and he requires > a metric shxt ton of data (for wireless anyways..). Sure you could get all > kinds of COOL solutions together, but do you think the (

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread Alex Howells
I think the AF5 should be legal over here, at least, the lower bands are license free up to 1W transmit power. Not used the AF5 at all yet, it's quite new, and the only AF24 experience I have is only ~1000m worth of distance so comparatively easy to make work. Either way you latched onto the poin

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread Alex Howells
Pay someone to worry about all this stuff, MaxWiFi has a good reputation in the UK at least. Stuff like the Ubiquiti Networks AirFiber can be good for getting from A-B over "relatively short" distances if you've identified another place which has really good connectivity which you can use, and if

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread William Waites
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 05:09:05AM +, Warren Bailey wrote: > It's not 802.11 and it doesn't act that way. Actually most of the installations I've seen -- and my day job is working with community networks around Scotland that have built all manner of strange things -- the problems most often ha

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread William Waites
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:02:30AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Laser link, and pray for clear weather? You'll have to pray really hard around here, especially in South Queensferry down by the water... We actually have an FSO link between two tall buildings in South Edinburgh. Only about 500m.

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread William Waites
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:35:20AM +, Warren Bailey wrote: > > You are screwed for LOS microwave, 60mbps on a microwave hope requires > real life engineering to function correctly. Well now, really. Yes it needs engineering, but nothing spectacularly difficult. The upper bound on distance the

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-27 Thread William Waites
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:30:27PM -0500, Nick wrote: > > Does any have contacts in Edinburgh Scotland who can provide WISP > service at the Hopetoun House and Dundas Castle. I would like to > have 20-60mpbs to for 2 days of services. There is a *chance* that we (http://hubs.net.uk/) can help. Ou

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-26 Thread Warren Bailey
n Bailey mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> Cc: Miles Fidelman mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>>, "nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>" mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: WISP or other options Pay someone to worry about all this stuff, Max

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-26 Thread Warren Bailey
Yeah.. If you have an extra 10k per radio. Free Space Optics are everything but free. Lol And attenuation at 80ghz is going to be heavy.. When I say heavy.. I mean.. A fart will cause a fade if you’re close enough to the tx. ;) I would not recommend FSO for anyone with less than an ultra black be

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
Laser link, and pray for clear weather? Warren Bailey wrote: 20-60mbps is a tall order. I¹d say cellular.. Maybe you can pair together a couple of 4g cradle points and do load balancing on them? You are screwed for LOS microwave, 60mbps on a microwave hope requires real life engineering to fun

Re: WISP or other options

2014-03-26 Thread Warren Bailey
20-60mbps is a tall order. I¹d say cellular.. Maybe you can pair together a couple of 4g cradle points and do load balancing on them? You are screwed for LOS microwave, 60mbps on a microwave hope requires real life engineering to function correctly. Frequency coordination, towers, AGL requirement

WISP or other options

2014-03-26 Thread Nick
Hey, I have a weird off the wall question for a NA group. Does any have contacts in Edinburgh Scotland who can provide WISP service at the Hopetoun House and Dundas Castle. I would like to have 20-60mpbs to for 2 days of services. Our company's event planner claims there are no good ISP opti