Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:50:40 -0800 >> From: Randy Bush >> Subject: Re: Routing Suggestions >> >> i'm with jon and the static crew. brutal but simple. >> >> if you want no leakage,

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:50:40 -0800 > From: Randy Bush > Subject: Re: Routing Suggestions > > i'm with jon and the static crew. brutal but simple. > > if you want no leakage, A can filter the prefix from it's upstreams, both > can low-pref blackhole

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Sam Silvester
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > i'm with jon and the static crew.  brutal but simple. Depending on how the interconnect is built, using the "permanent" keyword along with the static route may be worth investigating also if you want the static route to stay in place, if you wi

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: >> >> Randy, I know my solution was right.  I don't need your blessing. >> >> Go fuck yourself. >> >> > > It's nice to see we've really elevated the level of discourse around here :) yea... back to the coffee urn for me! (sometimes folks have h

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/14/2011 7:49 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: My boss calls NANOG the Masters of the Universe conference. Beats "Unruly kids with toys" conference. ;) Jack

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Randy Bush
> My name is Joe, not jon, Randy. congrats. but i was speaking of jon lewis. randy

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Dorn Hetzel
> > Randy, I know my solution was right. I don't need your blessing. > > Go fuck yourself. > > It's nice to see we've really elevated the level of discourse around here :) -dorn

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Joe Hamelin wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Randy Bush wrote: i'm with jon and the static crew. brutal but simple. My name is Joe, not jon, Randy. But what can I expect from a man that used the phrase "tell him to go fuck himself" when I put my hand out in gre

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Matthew S. Crocker
- Original Message - > From: "Joe Hamelin" > To: "Randy Bush" , "NANOG list" > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:50:05 AM > Subject: Re: Routing Suggestions > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > i'm with jon and

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > i'm with jon and the static crew. brutal but simple. My name is Joe, not jon, Randy. But what can I expect from a man that used the phrase "tell him to go fuck himself" when I put my hand out in greeting back at Atlanta NANOG in 2001, when y

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-14 Thread Randy Bush
i'm with jon and the static crew. brutal but simple. if you want no leakage, A can filter the prefix from it's upstreams, both can low-pref blackhole it, ... randy

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread jim deleskie
What Joe Said. Static with 1918 space. If they NEED global space, explain 1918 space will work and tell them to use it. -jim On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: >>> There are two companies, Company A and Company B, that are planning to >>> continuously exchange a large amount

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011, Jon Lewis wrote: > >Unless you'd like to ensure the sensitive traffic doesn't cross an > >"unsafer" default rout path if the XC is down. > > BGP would have that same issue since B is default routing to their > provider. > > [config for B] > ip route > ip route null0 2

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
>> There are two companies, Company A and Company B, that are planning to >> continuously exchange a large amount of sensitive data and are located in a >> mutual datacenter. They decide to order a cross connect and peer privately >> for the obvious reasons. Second NIC on a secure server at "A" wi

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Jon Lewis
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Adrian Chadd wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011, Jon Lewis wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jared Mauch wrote: I suggest using one of the reserved/private BGP asns for this purpose. ASNumber: 64512 - 65535 It sounds to me like Company B isn't doing BGP (probably has no exper

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:13:53PM -0500, Lars Carter wrote: [snip] > There are two companies, Company A and Company B, that are planning to > continuously exchange a large amount of sensitive data and are located in a > mutual datacenter. They decide to order a cross connect and peer privately > f

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:13:53PM -0500, Lars Carter wrote: > From an technical, operational, and security standpoint what would be the > preferred way to route traffic between these two networks? Static routing - at least "on" the direct link. For extra "security", you might want to make sure th

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread james
Since it sounds like there is no alternate path, it sounds like the most secure, simplest to operate would be static routes. It's not sexy, but no need to toss in a routing protocol if it's such a static setup. --Original Message-- From: Lars Carter To: NANOG@NANOG.org Subjec

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jared Mauch wrote: > > >I suggest using one of the reserved/private BGP asns for this purpose. > > > >ASNumber: 64512 - 65535 > > It sounds to me like Company B isn't doing BGP (probably has no experience > with it) and if there

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Roy
On 1/12/2011 4:13 PM, Lars Carter wrote: Hi NANOG list, I have a simple, hypothetical question regarding preferred connectivity methods for you guys that I would like to get the hive mind opinion about. There are two companies, Company A and Company B, that are planning to continuously exchan

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jared Mauch wrote: I suggest using one of the reserved/private BGP asns for this purpose. ASNumber: 64512 - 65535 It sounds to me like Company B isn't doing BGP (probably has no experience with it) and if there's only a single prefix per side of the cross connect,

Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Lars Carter wrote: > Hi NANOG list, > > I have a simple, hypothetical question regarding preferred connectivity > methods for you guys that I would like to get the hive mind opinion about. > > > There are two companies, Company A and Company B ... [ trimmed, but th

Routing Suggestions

2011-01-12 Thread Lars Carter
Hi NANOG list, I have a simple, hypothetical question regarding preferred connectivity methods for you guys that I would like to get the hive mind opinion about. There are two companies, Company A and Company B, that are planning to continuously exchange a large amount of sensitive data and are