Lyndon Nerenberg writes:
>> Autonomous systems will be assigned 16-bit identification
>> numbers (in much the same ways as network and protocol numbers
>> are now assigned), and every EGP message header contains one word
>> for this number.
>
> Was that a 36-bit word?
16-bit "wor
Autonomous systems will be assigned 16-bit identification
numbers (in much the same ways as network and protocol numbers
are now assigned), and every EGP message header contains one word
for this number.
Was that a 36-bit word?
--lyndon
I think 3B2 code deserves its own place
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com writes:
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:56:06PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>> On 21/03/2009 16:36, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
>> >er... 'parm me sir, but aren't -all- ASNs 4 bytes?
>> >
>> >i mean, for lo these many years we cheated and only
>> >u
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:56:06PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 21/03/2009 16:36, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> > er... 'parm me sir, but aren't -all- ASNs 4 bytes?
> >
> > i mean, for lo these many years we cheated and only
> > used the first two bytes... but the spec alw
Not all of Cisco IOS supports 4-byte ASN.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6554/ps6599/data_sheet_C78-521821.html
Alex
Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 21/03/2009 16:36, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
>> er... 'parm me sir, but aren't -all- ASNs 4 bytes?
>>
>> i mean,
On 21/03/2009 16:36, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
er... 'parm me sir, but aren't -all- ASNs 4 bytes?
i mean, for lo these many years we cheated and only
used the first two bytes... but the spec always
called out four bytes.
There seems to be a bug in my
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Heather Schiller wrote:
I don't think old vs new really matters.. pardon me for sticking w/ ARIN in
this example.. I can follow their fee structure easiest - and doesn't have
the old vs new: (https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html)
ARIN charges $100/yr for ASN's ..
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 08:44:23AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> perhaps there is a lesson here. move on to 4-byte asns.
>
> randy
er... 'parm me sir, but aren't -all- ASNs 4 bytes?
i mean, for lo these many years we cheated and only
used the first two bytes... but the
* Randy Bush:
> the real path is to move forward, increase income, and grow.
Sure. I was enlightened when someone posted to a RIPE mailing list,
"we are heading towards a future where address space is scarce" (my
words, not his). But the exact opposite is true.
>> It takes me about 3-5 hours of work to track down and get an old
>> unused ASN to be deallocated. How about updating the 2010 charging
>> model so that LIRs that return ASNs are compensated?
>
> I don't think this is a good way of using RIR funds. Why should the
> old guys receive even more s
* Hank Nussbacher:
> Older LIRs have more allocations which compensates for the time
> factor of the algorithm. Older allocations need almost no human
> handling by the RIR vs a new LIR of a year which has a oodles of
> tickets that need human intervention.
And how much of that is the result of
On 18/03/2009, at 6:18 PM, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
When I look at this more recently, the conclusion still seems to be
valid: we'll run out of 16 bit ASN's somewhere in 2011 to 2013. There
are a lot of unused ASN's out there.
I make it 25 June 2011 given current use patterns (http://www.po
What this quote means is that it is 65536 times more cost-effective to
deploy 4 byte ASN than to mess with legacy assignments.
On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Heather Schiller wrote:
I tend to agree w/ Randy.. it's time and money better spent focusing
our efforts on supporting 4byte ASN (and
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Why not go after low lying fruit first? If an ASN was assigned years
>> ago and hasn't appeared in the RIB for the past year that ASN should
>> be reclaimed. Send warning emails to the registered contacts as well
>> as to the assigning LIR an
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Hank Nussbacher:
It takes me about 3-5 hours of work to track down and get an old
unused ASN to be deallocated. How about updating the 2010 charging
model so that LIRs that return ASNs are compensated?
I don't think this
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Hank Nussbacher:
It takes me about 3-5 hours of work to track down and get an old
unused ASN to be deallocated. How about updating the 2010 charging
model so that LIRs that return ASNs are compensated?
I don't think this is a good way of using RI
* Hank Nussbacher:
> It takes me about 3-5 hours of work to track down and get an old
> unused ASN to be deallocated. How about updating the 2010 charging
> model so that LIRs that return ASNs are compensated?
I don't think this is a good way of using RIR funds. Why should the
old guys receive
At 12:40 PM 18-03-09 -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 08:18 AM 18-03-09 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what
you're looking for...
www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 08:18 AM 18-03-09 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what
you're looking for...
www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-uijterwaal-asn-mia.ppt
When I look at this more rec
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 08:18 AM 18-03-09 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what
you're looking for...
www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-uijterwaal-asn-mia.ppt
When I look at this more recently, the concl
> When I look at this more recently, the conclusion still seems to be
> valid: we'll run out of 16 bit ASN's somewhere in 2011 to 2013. There
> are a lot of unused ASN's out there. Recovering them will postpone the
> problem by a few years but it won't solve it. The basic problem with
> recovery
At 08:18 AM 18-03-09 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what
you're looking for...
www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-uijterwaal-asn-mia.ppt
When I look at this more recently, the conclusion still seems to be
va
tv...@eyeconomics.com wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Simon Brilus wrote:
Out of interest, is there a report that details the number of unused
older AS's in the Internet and what is being done to recover them to
recycle, as we approach the 53k mark and the 32 bit numbering scheme,
it st
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Simon Brilus wrote:
Out of interest, is there a report that details the number of unused
older AS's in the Internet and what is being done to recover them to
recycle, as we approach the 53k mark and the 32 bit numbering
scheme, it strikes me that we probably h
Out of interest, is there a report that details the number of unused older
AS's in the Internet and what is being done to recover them to recycle, as
we approach the 53k mark and the 32 bit numbering scheme, it strikes me that
we probably have a lot of stagnant AS's out there due to takeovers et
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