* > On Friday, 17 February, 2017 08:29, "Florian Weimer"
said:
>
>> Of course they do, see the arrest of Augusto Pinochet.
>
> Universal Jurisdiction is supposed to cover the likes of war crimes,
> torture, extrajudicial executions and genocide, that are generally
> agreed to be crimes against hu
On Friday, 17 February, 2017 08:29, "Florian Weimer" said:
> Of course they do, see the arrest of Augusto Pinochet.
Universal Jurisdiction is supposed to cover the likes of war crimes, torture,
extrajudicial executions and genocide, that are generally agreed to be crimes
against humanity as a
* Todd Crane:
> I am not familiar with Cogent’s architecture but why couldn’t they
> just null route the IP address at their edge routers from within
> Spain? I am not a lawyer but from what I understand, since the Spanish
> government has zero say on what goes on outside of their borders,
Of cou
* Jared Mauch:
> So risk avoidance on the part of the 100k other sites hosted by CF is
> now a conspiracy?
Conspiracy is perhaps a bit too strong, but I would be annoyed if
someone took my business, but then deliberately undermined the service
they provide. Of course, if it's all part of the agr
* Andrew Paolucci:
> Can anyone with a Cogent connection in Canada verify that they are
> impacted as well?
I think it's global. I tried sites in Canada and Germany, and the
traces look like deliberate blocking of /32s. I don't have a BGP view
for these sites, though.
Why wouldn't it be global
I am not familiar with Cogent’s architecture but why couldn’t they just null
route the IP address at their edge routers from within Spain? I am not a lawyer
but from what I understand, since the Spanish government has zero say on what
goes on outside of their borders, a court order that may or m
For transit maybe Cogent should have dropped the route, so they did not
advertize a route to peers that included null routed parts.
Den 16/02/2017 kl. 21.52 skrev Jean-Francois Mezei:
On 2017-02-16 14:59, Sadiq Saif wrote:
From -
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/a-court-order-bloc
On 2017-02-16 14:59, Sadiq Saif wrote:
> From -
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/a-court-order-blocked-pirate-sites-that-werent-supposed-to-be-blocked/
Many thanks.
pardon my ignorance here, but question:
For an outfit such as Cogent which acts not only as a transit provider,
but
On 2017-02-14 08:27, Jared Mauch wrote:
> So risk avoidance on the part of the 100k other sites hosted by CF is now a
> conspiracy?
>
> I'm surprised it took this many years for something like this to happen.
> Wonder which LE in which country...
>
> Either way seems nothing too suspicious is
Can anyone with a Cogent connection in Canada verify that they are impacted as
well?
Regards,
Andrew Paolucci
Original Message
Subject: Re: backbones filtering unsanctioned sites
Local Time: February 14, 2017 6:10 PM
UTC Time: February 14, 2017 6:10 PM
From: jfmezei_na
If it's been decided that BGP communities will now be used for purposes
other than internet traffic control, then perhaps Cloudflare would also be
willing to put the hundreds of DDoS-attack-for-hire services they protect
on a single IP so we can blackhole those as well? At least then we can use
BGP
They exist:
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=26878307
http://canadabizdb.com/company/3264874/cogent-canada-inc
http://www.contracts-contrats.hc-sc.gc.ca/cfob/mssid/contractdisc.nsf/WEBbypurpose/A35BA8F8DB21C5E98525787E0066931A?OpenDocument&lang=eng&;
http:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-02-14 08:27, Jared Mauch wrote:
> > So risk avoidance on the part of the 100k other sites hosted by CF is
> now a conspiracy?
>
>
> Cogent is a backbone network that is international in scope. Whe
On 2017-02-14 08:27, Jared Mauch wrote:
> So risk avoidance on the part of the 100k other sites hosted by CF is now a
> conspiracy?
Cogent is a backbone network that is international in scope. When China
tells a network to block the BBC that block happens only in China.
If the USA wants to be
So risk avoidance on the part of the 100k other sites hosted by CF is now a
conspiracy?
I'm surprised it took this many years for something like this to happen. Wonder
which LE in which country...
Either way seems nothing too suspicious is going on here.
Jared Mauch
> On Feb 13, 2017, at 5
* nanog@nanog.org (Patrick Boyle via NANOG) [Tue 14 Feb 2017, 14:16 CET]:
Even more concerning, on the surface it looks like there could be
some cooperation by Cloudflare. If you look at the list of domains
that contain an A record for that IP, it's almost all torrent sites
and mirrors. Could t
this?
http://bgp.he.net/ip/104.31.18.30#_dns
Original Message
Subject: Re: backbones filtering unsanctioned sites
Local Time: February 13, 2017 2:53 PM
UTC Time: February 13, 2017 9:53 PM
From: jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca
To: nanog@nanog.org
Cogent seems to have been very
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Cogent seems to have been very very silent on the issue.
>
>
why would they say anything at all? it's blatantly clear what's happened,
right?
"lea order to block access"
no explanation necessary.
>
Cogent seems to have been very very silent on the issue.
Could this be because they got some police/NSA/FBI letter requiring
confindentiality and requiring Cogent to snoop on all traffic to
104.31.19.30 , and along with agreeing to comply, blocked all the
requested traffic which means that their
> Looks like mostly proxy/torrent sites on that IP address.
That may be so. Maybe it isn’t particularly objectionable for Cogent
to not to carry traffic to some particular destination that they don’t like.
As you point out they already only offer a partial view of the Internet.
What is very pro
10.255.255.255 (metric 10177050) from 154.54.66.21 (154.54.66.21)
>>>>> Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 150, valid, internal, best
>>>>> Community: 174:990 174:20912 174:21001
>>>>> Originator: 66.28.1.228, Cluster list: 154.54.66.21, 66.2
Community: 174:990 174:20912 174:21001
> >>> Originator: 66.28.1.228, Cluster list: 154.54.66.21, 66.28.1.9
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Call it a "hunch" but I doubt 10.255.255.255 is a valid next-hop
> router.
> >>>
> >
;>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> Have we determined that this is intentional vs. some screw up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>
cs-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Brielle Bruns"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:28:53 PM
Subject: Re: backbones filtering unsanctioned sites
On 2/9/17 9:18 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
https://torrentfreak.com/inte
Since 104.31.19.30 is an anycast IP, is it possible that this isn't
related to PirateBay but more related to Cogent having a dispute with
Cloudfare ?
It is counter intuitive for a transit provider to refuse
business/traffic, but then again, Cogent has been involved in counter
intuituve disputes i
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
> If its not just cogent then we have an even larger issue -- that
> theres asymetric application of rulings. So we should just assume
> that if we can't get to something via cogent then all backbones
> within the same jurisdiction(*) should or wi
If its not just cogent then we have an even larger issue -- that
theres asymetric application of rulings. So we should just assume
that if we can't get to something via cogent then all backbones
within the same jurisdiction(*) should or will also have the same sites/ips
blocked soon? And that it wa
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
> >"Abuse cannot not provide you a list of websites that may be
> encountering
> >reduced visibility via Cogent"
>
> They could, if they kept a list of forward lookups they had done to get IPs
>
i think you mean passive-dns .. which is a thin
ntentionally entered a /32
> into
> >the config management system :(
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
config management system :(
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> Midwest-IX
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> - Original
ett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Brielle Bruns"
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:28:53 PM
> Subject: Re: backbon
?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > Midwest-IX
> > http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > From
>"Abuse cannot not provide you a list of websites that may be encountering
>reduced visibility via Cogent"
They could, if they kept a list of forward lookups they had done to get IPs
that ended up in their blacklists. But just having the IPs it's impossible to
get the whole list of possible ho
anog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:46:57 PM
Subject: Re: backbones filtering unsanctioned sites
This looks pretty intentional to me. From
http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass :
BGP routing table entry for 104.31.18.30/32 , version 611495773
Paths: (1 available, be
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Brielle Bruns"
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:28:53 PM
> Subject: Re: backbones filtering unsanctioned sites
>
> On 2/9/17 9:18 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
>
2017 12:28:53 PM
Subject: Re: backbones filtering unsanctioned sites
On 2/9/17 9:18 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
> https://torrentfreak.com/internet-backbone-provider-cogent-blocks-pirate-bay-and-other-pirate-sites-170209/
>
>
> /kc
>
Funny. Someone else got back:
"Abuse ca
On 2/9/17 9:18 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
https://torrentfreak.com/internet-backbone-provider-cogent-blocks-pirate-bay-and-other-pirate-sites-170209/
/kc
Funny. Someone else got back:
"Abuse cannot not provide you a list of websites that may be
encountering reduced visibility via Cogent"
I alm
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Robert McKay wrote:
> On 2017-02-10 04:18, Ken Chase wrote:
>
>> https://torrentfreak.com/internet-backbone-provider-cogent-
>> blocks-pirate-bay-and-other-pirate-sites-170209/
>>
>> /kc
>>
>
> Strange indeed.. but they forgot to ban it on IPv6 - maybe they're try
On 2017-02-10 04:18, Ken Chase wrote:
https://torrentfreak.com/internet-backbone-provider-cogent-blocks-pirate-bay-and-other-pirate-sites-170209/
/kc
Strange indeed.. but they forgot to ban it on IPv6 - maybe they're
trying to push IPv6 adoption!
Banning any Cloudflare hosted sites by IP is
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