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>Perhaps not. My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection. Maybe that’s not
>your goal. I was
On March 10, 2022 at 15:25 m...@beckman.org (Mel Beckman) wrote:
> In my view, there is a core problematic statement in this document:
>
> “Military and propaganda agencies and their information infrastructure are
> potential targets of sanctions.”
>
> What is a “propaganda agency”. A po
Using a few emails...
- otoh, i would likely close such meager services as i provide to russian
- I think it is a colossal mistake to weaponize the Internet.
- Keeping the rest of the internet as functional as possible
It is not "Russia" doing this. It is the Russian governmen
You’ve started implementation so a policy with virtually no public input on the
day after making your proposal public.
I’m pretty sure that’s not how the Internet works.
-mel
On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Mar 10, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
I don’t unders
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> I don’t understand your comment. I don’t think our statements are the same at
> all.
Perhaps not. My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection. Maybe that’s not
your goal. I was trying to give what you wrote the most generous possible
i
+1 e07
-mel via cell
On Mar 10, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:
Propaganda is in the eye of the beholder, and we’ve seen both sides of the
political aisle sling this term in recent elections and legislative debates.
I agree with this as well.
History has shown us that the smallest sli
>
> Propaganda is in the eye of the beholder, and we’ve seen both sides of the
> political aisle sling this term in recent elections and legislative debates.
>
I agree with this as well.
History has shown us that the smallest sliver of 'interpretation' is likely
to eventually be twisted and explo
Bill,
I don’t understand your comment. I don’t think our statements are the same at
all.
I’m opposed to this particular description of ad-hoc “social justice” in
Internet governance described in your proposal. It’s far too broad and open to
interpretation. You, on the other hand, seem to be r
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 4:25 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> In my view, there is a core problematic statement in this document:
> I think it is a colossal mistake to weaponize the Internet. The potential for
> unintended consequences is huge.
It sounds like your problem statement and ours are the same
+1
mh
10 mars 2022 16:34 "jim deleskie" mailto:deles...@gmail.com?to=%22jim%20deleskie%22%20)> a
écrit:
I respect the people and goals here, but strongly echo Mel's statement. This
is a much larger hammer then mail filtering lists. -jim
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 11:26 AM Mel Beckman mailto:m...
I respect the people and goals here, but strongly echo Mel's statement.
This is a much larger hammer then mail filtering lists.
-jim
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 11:26 AM Mel Beckman wrote:
> In my view, there is a core problematic statement in this document:
>
> “Military and propaganda agencies and
In my view, there is a core problematic statement in this document:
“Military and propaganda agencies and their information infrastructure are
potential targets of sanctions.”
What is a “propaganda agency”. A political party? An incumbent candidate for
re-election? The IRS? Anyone the “majority
maybe it is just that i am sufficiently anti-authoritarian that i try
not to have the hubris to set myself up as the authority. maybe that
in itself is hubris.
as i was raised by someone who was a conscious objector in ww2, i can
not bring myself to contribute to weapons etc. so i have donated t
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> while i abhor the russian invasion of the ukraine, and have put my money
> where my mouth is
(As an aside to others, our friends at the .UA ccTLD have recommended this as a
useful place to donate: https://www.comebackalive.in.ua/donate It’s p
while i abhor the russian invasion of the ukraine, and have put my money
where my mouth is , i worry about the precedent of
setting ourselves up as legislature, police, judge, and jury, and the
long term effects of centralizing such authority. who will we censor
and ostracize next? a walt kelly c
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