Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Jared Geiger
lligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Owen DeLong" > To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:56:47 PM > Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers > > Nor wi

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
> > From: "Owen DeLong" > To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 8:04:24 AM > Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers > > Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk out > the non-local calls?

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Owen DeLong
> To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 8:04:24 AM > Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers > > Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk out > the non-local calls? > > Owen > >>

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
al Message - From: "Owen DeLong" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 8:04:24 AM Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk out the non-local calls? Owen > On Jul 20, 201

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
That may be true of metro areas, but in rural USA there's plenty of TDM to go around. Telco's are still delivering broadband on ADSL and phone on TDM. Worse those trunked circuits are TDM over HDSL. In many rural areas, there's not even ADSL or cable and that's within 40 miles of a small city

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Nathan Anderson
ent: Monday, July 20, 2015 6:49 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: SIP trunking providers End to end delay is not the most limiting factor. Jitter is the issue and packet drops are the other issue that matters (more importantly the distribution of drops). I think the best reason to select the

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Nathan Anderson
rom: NANOG [nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett [na...@ics-il.net] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 3:36 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers I want the gateway in Chicago as well. I am Chicago based. The end users are Chicago based. Therefore the origination would

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread James Cloos
> "MH" == Mike Hammett writes: MH> I too am looking for the Chicago area. Low volume. I'm looking for MH> people whose SIP and RTP hit the end of the road in Chicago. Not MH> interested in someone whose SIP servers are in LA , but will redirect MH> me to the nearest gateway... without telling

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
The TDM network is rapidly being eliminated. The major telcos have been moving their backbones to VOIP and higher levels of oversubscription as a result for years now because of the very large cost savings that can be achieved. International TDM may still be pretty common, but domestic TDM is ra

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
FWIW, I don’t know where their root nodes are or where their proxies are located, but I’ve had excellent service from CallCentric for several years. They’ve just plain worked everywhere I’ve tried in first-world countries and generally fairly well even in places that were network challenged like

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Chris Garrett
Might try OneSourceNetworks. They have a primary hub out of Chicago and do SIP very well. http://www.onesourcenetworks.com/ Been a while since I have had any dealings with them, but good folk all the way around. > On Jul 19, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Mike Hammet

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2015-07-20 Thread Rafael Possamai
When I originally posted the thread, I had asked Chicago due to physical proximity, and my assumption being the lesser the number of hops, the lower the probability of running into issues (latency, jitter and congestion). On the other hand, one of my sandboxes are out of Las Vegas and I haven't had

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Naslund, Steve
End to end delay is not the most limiting factor. Jitter is the issue and packet drops are the other issue that matters (more importantly the distribution of drops). I think the best reason to select the local provider over the distant one is that the sooner he gets off the IP network the less

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jul 20, 2015, at 06:21 , Joe Greco wrote: > >> Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk = >> out the non-local calls? > > And do what with the local calls, then? You're still left with the > problem of getting calls to and from the PSTN. > > Not everyone w

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Joe Greco
> Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk = > out the non-local calls? And do what with the local calls, then? You're still left with the problem of getting calls to and from the PSTN. Not everyone wants to deal with the hassle of dealing with POTS or T1 gatewayi

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
have to be through local tandems. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Nathan Anderson" > To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Mike Hammett
g@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:11:37 AM Subject: RE: SIP trunking providers Maybe I'm missing something here, but what does it matter if the RTP from your perspective ends in Chicago or not? If it does end in Chicago, that only means they are proxying the audio before sending it

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2015-07-20 Thread Nathan Anderson
PM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers I too am looking for the Chicago area. Low volume. I'm looking for people whose SIP and RTP hit the end of the road in Chicago. Not interested in someone whose SIP servers are in LA , but will redirect me to the nearest gateway... w

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-19 Thread Dovid Bender
Almost every itsp will do that to your traffic regardless of where you see it going. Under 100ms and you won't even notice it. --Original Message-- From: Mike Hammett Sender: NANOG Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers Sent: Jul 19, 2015 16:04 I too am looking fo

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I too am looking for the Chicago area. Low volume. I'm looking for people whose SIP and RTP hit the end of the road in Chicago. Not interested in someone whose SIP servers are in LA , but will redirect me to the nearest gateway... without telling me where said gateway is. - Mike Hammet

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-20 Thread Rafael Possamai
Thanks everyone for your responses. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote: > Would anyone in the list be able to recommend a SIP trunk provider in the > Chicago area? Not a VoIP expert, so just looking for someone with previous > experience. > > > Thanks, > Rafael >

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread Mike Lyon
Flowroute.com On Jun 19, 2015 6:42 PM, "James Laszko" wrote: > Sorry, intended for off-list reply. Sorry for noise. > > James > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 19, 2015, at 18:37, James Laszko wrote: > > > > We have facilities in Chicago and LAX based on Broadsoft technology that > I think i

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2015-06-19 Thread James Laszko
Sorry, intended for off-list reply. Sorry for noise. James Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2015, at 18:37, James Laszko wrote: > > We have facilities in Chicago and LAX based on Broadsoft technology that I > think is pretty awesome. Would welcome answering any questions for you > > >

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2015-06-19 Thread James Laszko
We have facilities in Chicago and LAX based on Broadsoft technology that I think is pretty awesome. Would welcome answering any questions for you Regards, James Laszko Mythos Technology Inc jam...@mythostech.com 951-813-2674 direct Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2015, at 14:43, Rafae

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread Dovid Bender
Jivetel.com --Original Message-- From: Rafael Possamai Sender: NANOG To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: SIP trunking providers Sent: Jun 19, 2015 17:40 Would anyone in the list be able to recommend a SIP trunk provider in the Chicago area? Not a VoIP expert, so just looking for someone with pre