That may be true of metro areas, but in rural USA there's plenty of TDM to go around. Telco's are still delivering broadband on ADSL and phone on TDM. Worse those trunked circuits are TDM over HDSL. In many rural areas, there's not even ADSL or cable and that's within 40 miles of a small city.

--Curtis

On 7/20/2015 5:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
The TDM network is rapidly being eliminated. The major telcos have been moving 
their backbones to VOIP and higher levels of oversubscription as a result for 
years now because of the very large cost savings that can be achieved.

International TDM may still be pretty common, but domestic TDM is rapidly 
becoming as popular as a Strowger.

Owen

On Jul 20, 2015, at 06:49 , Naslund, Steve <snasl...@medline.com> wrote:

End to end delay is not the most limiting factor.  Jitter is the issue and 
packet drops are the other issue that matters (more importantly the 
distribution of drops).  I think the best reason to select the local provider 
over the distant one is that the sooner he gets off the IP network the less 
impairments he will run into.  The TDM network as antiquated as it is, is less 
susceptible to congestion and call impairments than an IP backbone network is.  
I can tell you from running a bunch of International VOIP networks that they 
are just not as reliable as TDM.  The average internet connection just does not 
meet the reliability standards that the TDM voice network has achieved.  IP 
networks are affected by congestion and routing issues whereas the TDM network 
seldom has these type of problems.  An outage on a TDM circuit rarely affects 
other TDM circuits so they see a lot less higher level outages.  I can 
understand why he does not want to haul his voice cross country over IP when he 
is exiting locally most of the time.

Yes, I understand that the carrier might very well be hauling that traffic via 
IP even after he gets to his gateway point but at that point it becomes their 
problem to deal with.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL


If you’re going to the PSTN, who gives a shit where you do the interconnect as 
long as its within 100ms.

If most of your calls are VOIP<->VOIP within Chicago, then it makes some sense to 
set up a box and just send the external calls out to the trunking provider where >you 
no longer really care where they are.

Absent significant network  suckage, there’s no place in the contiguous US that 
isn’t within 100 ms of any other place in the contiguous US these days.

Owen

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