Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-03 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mercredi 03 octobre 2012 à 07:31 -0400, Rodrick Brown a écrit : > On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen > wrote: > > > > The newest version of libreoffice draw can open Visio diagrams. > > > > > > > Also Microsoft does provide a free Visio plugin/viewer for Internet > Explor

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-03 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen < mailing-li...@brianraaen.com> wrote: The newest version of libreoffice draw can open Visio diagrams. Also Microsoft does provide a free Visio plugin/viewer for Internet Explorer. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displayla

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-03 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
The newest version of libreoffice draw can open Visio diagrams. --- Brian Raaen Zcorum On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Michael Hallgren wrote: > Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : >> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: >> > Here's a visio diagram yo

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Mark Gauvin
Just be happy they didn't ask for power point Sent from my iPhone On 2012-10-02, at 5:03 PM, "William F. Maton Sotomayor" wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Michael Hallgren wrote: > >> Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : >>> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliar

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Michael Hallgren wrote: Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Here's a visio diagram you can send them: http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of it somew

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Dan White
On 10/02/12 23:43 +0200, Michael Hallgren wrote: Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Here's a visio diagram you can send them: > > http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of i

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Here's a visio diagram you can send them: > > > > http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd > > Is there a .png version of it somewhere? > The whole thread made my

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Luedtke
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Here's a visio diagram you can send them: > > http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of it somewhere? The whole thread made my day, I'm eager to see this diagram as well. I don't have this MS Visio thin

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-01 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 28/09/12 22:18, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Hand draw two squares, label them "our AS" and "your AS" with a line > between them labeled "GigE". Bonus points for pencil. Don't forget have coffee mug stamp otherwise its unofficial diagram

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-01 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Jason Baugher wrote: > All they know is a consultant told them they needed to "do BGP" > with their ISP? what kind of consultant throws away the great billable hours that "design, configure, deploy, and test BGP session(s)" gives?! pretty sure I lived on setting u

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-01 Thread Eric Adler
Why not RFC 5514 over RFC 2410 encryption over RFC2549 enhanced RFC1149 with all sessions padded with a number (generated by a server compliant with RFC3091) of the packets described in RFC6592? Oh, and don't forget to set the bit described in RFC3514 as appropriate. Or, ya know, one could just d

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Cutler James R
On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > The proper approach is to ask the vendor for RFC 1149 trasport for the BGP > session, and whether it terminates in a shared cage, or if a fully private > one is required. Including an 'envionmental impact statement'. Explaining > that th

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Mike Lyon wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 9/28/12 11:08 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a > > > customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I > > > dont know). > > > > >

RE: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Chuck Church
...@thebaughers.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 5:59 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RFC becomes Visio On 9/28/2012 1:08 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a > customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what > I

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jason Baugher wrote: On 9/28/2012 1:08 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). Has anybody else seen this brain damage? Regardless of all the other comments here

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Jason Baugher
On 9/28/2012 1:08 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). Has anybody else seen this brain damage? Joe Regardless of all the other comments here making fun of

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Hand draw two squares, label them "our AS" and "your AS" with a line > between them labeled "GigE". Bonus points for pencil. Double-bonus for crayon (why yes I do have a young child, why do you ask?). Bruce. signature.asc Description: OpenPG

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Joe Maimon
Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Joe Maimon wrote: Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). Has anybody else seen this brain damage? I can understand wanting to diagram

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Gary E. Miller wrote: Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). Network diagrams are required for PCI compliance. I can understand (and fully support) the need for

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Joe! On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Joe Maimon wrote: > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a > customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of > what I dont know). Network diagrams are required for PCI compliance. 1.1.2 Current network diagram with

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Joe Maimon wrote: Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). Has anybody else seen this brain damage? I can understand wanting to diagram a complex design, so everyo

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Joe Maimon wrote: Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). Has anybody else seen this brain damage? In my quaint little corner of the world, this was once fairly r

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Jim Mercer
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:22:14AM -0700, Mike Lyon wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 9/28/12 11:08 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a > > > customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Porter
On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:17 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:29:50 -0400, Randy Carpenter said: >> Just make sure to name the scanned file VisioDi~1_vsd.png, and maybe they >> won't notice. > > That's eeevil. ;) echo $Vladis_Statement >> evil_indeed.vsd /r

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:29:50 -0400, Randy Carpenter said: > Just make sure to name the scanned file VisioDi~1_vsd.png, and maybe they > won't notice. That's eeevil. ;) pgpekRqJeA2WL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 28/09/2012 19:08, Joe Maimon wrote: > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a customer > gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I dont know). > > Has anybody else seen this brain damage? I was once asked by a vendor support department for a networ

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread TJ
> > As a person who often draws out + scans diagrams, I support this message. > > > Hand draw two squares, label them "our AS" and "your AS" with a line > > between them labeled "GigE". Bonus points for pencil. > Exactly - hand draw it, scan it it in and save the .JPG/.PNG in a .VSD. There, it is

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Randy Carpenter
Just make sure to name the scanned file VisioDi~1_vsd.png, and maybe they won't notice. -Randy - Original Message - > As a person who often draws out + scans diagrams, I support this > message. > > On 09/28/2012 01:18 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > Hand draw two squares, label them "ou

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Wow... talk about someone who doesn't want your business. Randy Carpenter wrote: I've seen requests for a drawing of some sort, but never specifically and exclusively visio. If they insist on visio, I would send them a LART (at high velocity) instead. -Randy - Original Message - Jus

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Rhys Rhaven
As a person who often draws out + scans diagrams, I support this message. On 09/28/2012 01:18 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Hand draw two squares, label them "our AS" and "your AS" with a line > between them labeled "GigE". Bonus points for pencil. > > ~Seth

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Mike Lyon
And super duper bonus points is you draw pigeons carrying packets between the two blocks and stating that you are RFC 1149 compliant. -Mike On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 9/28/12 11:08 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to d

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/28/12 11:08 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a > customer gig circuit to them they would need a visio diagram (of what I > dont know). > > Has anybody else seen this brain damage? > Hand draw two squares, label them "our AS" and "your A

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-09-28 Thread Randy Carpenter
I've seen requests for a drawing of some sort, but never specifically and exclusively visio. If they insist on visio, I would send them a LART (at high velocity) instead. -Randy - Original Message - > Just got told by a Lightpath person that in order to do BGP on a > customer gig circu