What I'm not digging about the entire iMessage I turned off my iMessage
option and someone else here in the office was trying to send me a txt.
>From the looks of it the iPhone does not let you pick between wanting to
send an iMessage or txt I could be wrong, but his phone was forcing
iMessage and
Jared,
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> Rebuilding this trust can take some time. I do expect that with the iMessage
> stuff that was released yesterday (SMS/MMSoIP to email/phone#) many more
> companies will shift to using that instead as the value of BBM is decreased.
W
> -Original Message-
> From: Nikolay Shopik [mailto:sho...@inblock.ru]
> Sent: 14 October 2011 10:17
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>
> On 13/10/11 19:56, Jared Mauch wrote:
> > Rebuilding this trus
On 13/10/11 19:56, Jared Mauch wrote:
Rebuilding this trust can take some time. I do expect that with the iMessage
stuff that was released yesterday (SMS/MMSoIP to email/phone#) many more
companies will shift to using that instead as the value of BBM is decreased.
I also wonder what the impac
On 10/13/11 3:30 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
In fact, Skype, just as a for instance, is worse on hotel wifi as
launching the app on a laptop makes you a middle node for some
conversations.
Per the Skype IT administrator guide, a Skype node will not become a
supernode unless it has a public
on it is lacking.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:44 AM
> To: 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
> Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry
>
> On 10/13/11 5:55 PM, "Jamie Bowden" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:36 AM
>>> To: Jay Ashworth
>>> Cc: N
many of you would agree.
Regards,
P.
-Original Message-
From: Blake T. Pfankuch [mailto:bl...@pfankuch.me]
Sent: 13 October 2011 14:08
To: Matthew Huff; 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry service
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:36 AM
> To: Jay Ashworth
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:13
On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> It's possible that the 'encryption' comment from Jamie is really about
> encrypting the actual device... which I believe Android[0] will do, I
> don't know if idevices do though.
I think the big problem is that rev1 of iDevice did not inc
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jamie Bowden"
>
>> Someday either Google or Apple will get
>> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
>> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can a
- Original Message -
> From: "Jamie Bowden"
> Someday either Google or Apple will get
> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
> gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bi
ee.
Regards,
P.
-Original Message-
From: Blake T. Pfankuch [mailto:bl...@pfankuch.me]
Sent: 13 October 2011 14:08
To: Matthew Huff; 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
Agreed. Had
server to care about.
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:44 AM
To: 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
It's call
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:44 AM
To: 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
It's called Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync :)
It works with Android, Apple and Microsoft devices.
heir hands.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:ja...@photon.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:36 AM
> To: Joe Abley
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>
> You are correct. The BES uses PS
hopcount.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
> To: Phil Regnauld
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>
>
> On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
>
> > Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
> >>
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> Correct - they need to transit at some point through the RIM servers.
>
>
> http://www.interworks.com/blogs/wlyles/2010/01/14/why-rim-outage-affects-users-corporate-bes
>
> That's just wrong on so many levels.
yet... p
Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
>
> > This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated servers,
> > AFAIU.
>
> I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic between
> handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through a cellular
> network, still f
On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
>>
>> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
>>
>> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing
>> intelligence in the core. Messaging ser
Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
>
> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> > Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
>
> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing
> intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple
> transport and shi
I've always believed that RIM's decision to implement email and other
services in this way was a very poor choice that at some point would
blow up in their faces. My evil half would say that is was a
marketer's rather than an engineer's decision.
It's one thing when you are basically the only game
On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing
intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple
transport and shift the processing intelligence to the edge
35.5612
ekim.it...@gmail.com
(UTC-8)
On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
-Original Message-
From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,
Egypt affecte
- Original Message -
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks"
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> > Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look
> > at this perhaps being sabotage.
>
> It ain't sabotage till you rule out "misconfigured router".
>
> And
rote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. [mailto:fo...@lemcoe.com]
> > Sent: 12 October 2011 18:01
> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> >
> >
> -Original Message-
> From: D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. [mailto:fo...@lemcoe.com]
> Sent: 12 October 2011 18:01
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
>
> Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around
Mechanicsburg PA 17055
-Original Message-
From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:52 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
affected (not N.A.)
What kills me is what they have told the public. The
Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located
in Atlanta.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ben Albee wrote:
> Our blackberry service with Us Cellular in Missouri started having
> issues about 8am this morning.
>
>
0
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,
>> Egypt affected (not N.A.)
>>
>> I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware
>> failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the
> -Original Message-
> From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,
> Egypt affected (not N.A.)
>
> I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures
I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware
failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need for
N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a
bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the
hardware is pe
I think it raises serious questions about RIM's DR strategy if a DB corruption
or switch failure or whatever can cause this much outage. 'Surely' RIM have an
second site that is independent of the primary (within reason) that they could
of flipped to when they realised the DB was borked. If not
Idiotberry
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 12 oct. 2011 à 17:55, Charles Mills a écrit :
> +1
> On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
>>> What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core
>>> switch". I don't know if they actually mean
+1
On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
> > What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core
> > switch". I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
> > I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environme
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
> What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core
> switch". I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
> I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know
> how to factor N+1 just for these
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this
> perhaps being sabotage.
It ain't sabotage till you rule out "misconfigured router".
Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods:
1) In
nk
>
> From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
> To: frnk...@iname.com
> Cc: outa...@outages.org
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
> affected (not N.A.)
>
> RI
Our blackberry service with Us Cellular in Missouri started having
issues about 8am this morning.
: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
affected (not N.A.)
Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this
perhaps being sabotage.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/
Andrew
gt;
> From: Frank Bulk
> To: outa...@outages.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
> affected (not N.A.)
>
>
> And continues:
> “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINU
6_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/
Andrew
From: Frank Bulk
To: outa...@outages.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
affected (not N.A.)
A
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
affected (not N.A.)
And continues:
“RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652&cat=Politics
Frank
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