Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-30 Thread Kyle Creyts
I would agree that at the moment, we exist in what is supposed to be a "self-policing" community. How long will it stay so, if livelihoods are jeopardized? Some are paid to move bits, and consider that their only obligation. Others are charged with operating services that are impacted by the afore

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-30 Thread Chris
See, since I emailed this - RIPE wants feedback and sent me an email offlist! I'll gladly give them an earful about how RIPE address ranges are starting to be notorious for abuse due to lack of valid WHOIS information and lack of response from so-called abuse departments. I would like to thank Mr.

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:52 AM, William Pitcock wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:22:53 -0400 > Chris wrote: >> This is a huge business. Shady "SEO" companies are charging >> individuals at least $250 per month to use their spam tools of choice >> to spam forums and Wordpress blogs. I got one of t

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-27 Thread Richard Kulawiec
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:22:53PM -0400, Chris wrote: > For folks who say hosting companies are not helpful: Linode, Amazon, > BurstNET, Ubiquity Servers and others are extremely responsive to > abuse complaints. Burstnet is one of the filthiest sewers on the entire Internet. Has been for many y

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-26 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:22:53 -0400 Chris wrote: > > McColo and Atrivo were disconnected for much larger sins than > > spamming someone's wordpress blog. > > Many of you do not understand the scope of "just spamming a Wordpress > blog". I do understand the scope of shady SEO companies. > This i

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-26 Thread Chris
> McColo and Atrivo were disconnected for much larger sins than spamming > someone's wordpress blog. Many of you do not understand the scope of "just spamming a Wordpress blog". This is a huge business. Shady "SEO" companies are charging individuals at least $250 per month to use their spam tools

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-26 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:47:03 -0400 Chris wrote: > For folks who do not understand, I'm trying to "McColo" XSServer so > their lack of response in regards to abuse is gone rather than the > suggestions of scripting (guess you didn't read the full text of the > email) or you pushing a product on me

RE: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-26 Thread Gavin Pearce
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:12:33AM -0400, Chris wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations of where to go next because I'm > just limited to doing a whois on the IP address, emailing the abuse > contact and tracerouting. Chris, Can't help much - but can say we find ourselves in a similar boat

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-26 Thread Chris
For folks who do not understand, I'm trying to "McColo" XSServer so their lack of response in regards to abuse is gone rather than the suggestions of scripting (guess you didn't read the full text of the email) or you pushing a product on me because you work for the ISP that the product is hosted o

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-26 Thread Nicolai
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:12:33AM -0400, Chris wrote: > Before somebody screams the path of least resistance of "just install > Akismet or (insert spam plugin here)", that type of thinking just > makes spam even worse because we just keep large, possibly stale, > databases of IP addresses that ma