RE: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-11 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
anuary 10, 2017 11:52 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org; 'baldur.nordd...@gmail.com' > Subject: RE: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP > convergence > > Hi Baldur, > > Have you tried graceful shutdown? > You need redundant links, but not to the

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Laurent Vanbever
Hi Joel, > On 10 Jan 2017, at 06:51, joel jaeggli wrote: > > On 1/9/17 2:56 PM, Laurent Vanbever wrote: >> Hi NANOG, >> >> We often read that the Internet (i.e. BGP) is "slow to converge". But how >> slow >> is it really? Do you care anyway? And can we (researchers) do anything about >> it? >

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Laurent Vanbever
Dear Baldur, > I find that the type of outage that affects our network the most is neither > of the two options you describe. As is probably typical for smaller networks, > we do not have redundant uplinks to all of our transits. If a transit link > goes, for example because we had to reboot a

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Mike Jones
On 10 January 2017 at 19:58, Job Snijders wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:51:04AM +0100, Baldur Norddahl wrote: >> If a transit link goes, for example because we had to reboot a router, >> traffic is supposed to reroute to the remaining transit links. >> Internally our network handles this fai

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 10, 2017, at 3:14 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: > > > On Tue 2017-Jan-10 20:58:02 +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:51:04AM +0100, Baldur Norddahl wrote: >>> If a transit link goes, for example because we had to reboot a router, >>> traffic is supposed to reroute

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Tue 2017-Jan-10 20:58:02 +0100, Job Snijders wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:51:04AM +0100, Baldur Norddahl wrote: If a transit link goes, for example because we had to reboot a router, traffic is supposed to reroute to the remaining transit links. Internally our network handles this fai

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:51:04AM +0100, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > If a transit link goes, for example because we had to reboot a router, > traffic is supposed to reroute to the remaining transit links. > Internally our network handles this fairly fast for egress traffic. > > However the problem is

RE: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-10 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
Hi Baldur, Have you tried graceful shutdown? You need redundant links, but not to the same transit. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-06 This draft is expired, but it is actually implemented by several vendors. I implemented this. http://www.slideshare.net/bduvivie/bgp-gracefu

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-09 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/9/17 2:56 PM, Laurent Vanbever wrote: > Hi NANOG, > > We often read that the Internet (i.e. BGP) is "slow to converge". But how slow > is it really? Do you care anyway? And can we (researchers) do anything about > it? > Please help us out to find out by answering our short anonymous survey

Re: Soliciting your opinions on Internet routing: A survey on BGP convergence

2017-01-09 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hello I find that the type of outage that affects our network the most is neither of the two options you describe. As is probably typical for smaller networks, we do not have redundant uplinks to all of our transits. If a transit link goes, for example because we had to reboot a router, traff